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Ok that’s it!

Religion bashing in every single thread. So many, many threads about Religion! I HAVE HAD IT!!!!!!!!!

That’s it. If you have any messages, topics, whatever you have to say about Religion, say it here!

So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

3. Prove god exists.

4. If he dose, why doesn’t he just say 'hi I’m god, I exists' to everyone.

Andrewboy wrote:So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

I'm not a Christian, but there are many Christians who accept that both of these happened.

Fabricati Diem wrote:

Andrewboy wrote:So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

I'm not a Christian, but there are many Christians who accept that both of these happened.

Most of the God belives think that he started the world and us.

Andrewboy wrote:Most of the God belives think that he started the world and us.

*squints*

Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Andrewboy wrote:Ok that’s it!

Religion bashing in every single thread. So many, many threads about Religion! I HAVE HAD IT!!!!!!!!!

That’s it. If you have any messages, topics, whatever you have to say about Religion, say it here!

So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

3. Prove god exists.

4. If he dose, why doesn’t he just say 'hi I’m god, I exists' to everyone.

God's existence can never be proved nor be disapproved, there's a study about how God acts through nature, Christians don't deny Evolution. What if God acted through nature?
He created microscopic life forms and then played with them like clay to be marine life and then played again to make reptiles, dinosaurs, mammals etc. Charles Darwin was interested in how God acts through nature but he became Agnostic and lost faith in God when his daughter died. If he says Hi I'm God, everyone wouldn't be themselves, everyone will be good, everyone will be doing what's right, everyone would always be frightened; reason why he didn't want us to have the fruit of knowledge is because when we have knowledge we would have thought, we would do un-rightful things etc. If we didn't have knowledge; our lives would be similar to animals;
LIVE - > EAT - > DRINK - > HAVE BABIES - > TAKE CARE OF THEM - > DIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldHF6PFUukw
Einstein was agnostic; he believed in Spinoza's God but not in the Abrahamic God.

Andrewboy wrote:

Fabricati Diem wrote:

Andrewboy wrote:So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

I'm not a Christian, but there are many Christians who accept that both of these happened.

Most of the God belives think that he started the world and us.

He(Fabricati)'s right you know. I can claim the dubious honour of being a Christian, and most Christians, at least in England, would whole-heartedly agree with much of what science tells us. We just suspect that God had a helping hand in what happened.

And, while I'm going to hate myself for doing this, I'm subscribing to this thread. A whole area for debate on religion. It's a dream come true...

Andrewboy wrote:Ok that’s it!
3. Prove god exists.

God's existence can never be proved or disapproved, God needs praise from his people, if he'd say Hi, I'm God, wouldn't everyone stop working and just go to God and kneel down and cry on his feet; Ohh Give me a ferrari! and everyone would be like
I'm horny, let's sleep together, oh wait! God's watching nevermind! and I went to my friend's house... ughh i mean.. i went to a girls house and slept with her, just saying the truth God might burn me ASAP.

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why would He have to send angels or prophets? Is He incapable of entering our Universe? If so, how does He send the angels and prophets into our universe? If the angels and prophets are already in our universe, how does He communicate with them? If He's capable of communicating across universes, can't He just tell us Himself?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: How are we supposed to tell the difference between a prophet and a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad?

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: How are we supposed to tell the difference between a prophet and a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad?

Once the sun is directly behind their head!

Johz wrote:

Andrewboy wrote:

Fabricati Diem wrote:

Andrewboy wrote:So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

I'm not a Christian, but there are many Christians who accept that both of these happened.

Most of the God belives think that he started the world and us.

He(Fabricati)'s right you know. I can claim the dubious honour of being a Christian, and most Christians, at least in England, would whole-heartedly agree with much of what science tells us. We just suspect that God had a helping hand in what happened.

And, while I'm going to hate myself for doing this, I'm subscribing to this thread. A whole area for debate on religion. It's a dream come true...

x) Actually the Europeans have studied about how God works through nature >_> this should be introduced to schools so that everyone will understand. Yes I am Christian and I believe in Science and I believe God gave a helping hand, I have a belief but It's too complicated to explain and understand. NATURAL THEOLOGY

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why would He have to send angels or prophets? Is He incapable of entering our Universe? If so, how does He send the angels and prophets into our universe? If the angels and prophets are already in our universe, how does He communicate with them? If He's capable of communicating across universes, can't He just tell us Himself?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: How are we supposed to tell the difference between a prophet and a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad?

Ughh!! read my posts to understand why he isn't showing up.

phhh, god is just an imaginary figure made up by people who refused to go into the crule world without someone to help them.

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why would He have to send angels or prophets? Is He incapable of entering our Universe? If so, how does He send the angels and prophets into our universe? If the angels and prophets are already in our universe, how does He communicate with them? If He's capable of communicating across universes, can't He just tell us Himself?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: How are we supposed to tell the difference between a prophet and a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad?

Well a prophet is someone who proclaims the word of God, a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad is the living proof of cavemen

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why would He have to send angels or prophets? Is He incapable of entering our Universe? If so, how does He send the angels and prophets into our universe? If the angels and prophets are already in our universe, how does He communicate with them? If He's capable of communicating across universes, can't He just tell us Himself?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: How are we supposed to tell the difference between a prophet and a dude who spent too long in a cave and went mad?

You should ask a Scholar the first bit. I am just an everyman that has a bit of knowledge.

Your other question is loaded. Scientific fact, and him being raised into paradise is another reason.

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why does the Abrahamic God seems to play favorite. Jews are his "Chosen" people, Christians are to spread his message and be his disciple, and he hand selects who should be Muslims.

This just reinforce my idea that Yahweh (the God of all three religion) is just a massive dick.

Wilgrove wrote:

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

Why does the Abrahamic God seems to play favorite. Jews are his "Chosen" people, Christians are to spread his message and be his disciple, and he hand selects who should be Muslims.

This just reinforce my idea that Yahweh (the God of all three religion) is just a massive dick.

I think it's infinitely more likely that God didn't tell many people on Earth much of anything. Personally, I think He may have played a very slight role in Jesus' message, but I'm not even going to argue that point.

I think it's much more likely that God thinks on a much more universal scale. The idea that all of this is for us is mind bogglingly arrogant.

Andrewboy wrote:Ok that’s it!

Religion bashing in every single thread. So many, many threads about Religion! I HAVE HAD IT!!!!!!!!!

That’s it. If you have any messages, topics, whatever you have to say about Religion, say it here!

So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

3. Prove god exists.

4. If he dose, why doesn’t he just say 'hi I’m god, I exists' to everyone.

OK, I'll brave the spelling and grammar atrocities, and try to defend God. I am a Christian, so I can do this- other religious people can't since the OP addressed Christians specifically.

1. The Big Bang? Yes, I agree with it (but not your version, which suggests the existence of molecules before the Big Bang). Here's a question for you- who instigated the Big Bang?

2. Yes, I agree with it. Here's a question for you- who instigated the very specific and improbable conditions for life to form?

3. I can't, but there are many things that cannot and will not be explained by the atheistic worldview alone.

4. Because he believes in properly conjugated verbs? Seriously, if he intervened too much, people would become too reliant on Him and His compassionate power. He does show His existence in little ways through miracles.

Angleter wrote:1. The Big Bang? Yes, I agree with it (but not your version, which suggests the existence of molecules before the Big Bang). Here's a question for you- who instigated the Big Bang?

A question for you in turn: why do you use the word "who", when it is extraordinarily unlikely that anything like a "person" was around back then?

Andrewboy wrote:Ok that’s it!

No, it's not.

Religion bashing in every single thread. So many, many threads about Religion! I HAVE HAD IT!!!!!!!!!

Many people apparently have not.

That’s it. If you have any messages, topics, whatever you have to say about Religion, say it here!

Or in other religion related threads, I suppose. Religion is a very broad topic. There's many many aspects of it.

So ill start. All you christans who say god exist lets point out some stuff.

An ill start? A portent, that is, and a bad one at that.

1. First there were molecules, they banded together and expanded in the Big bang spreading planets and stars everywhere. We know it’s true because it’s still going on.

What? That's not what the Big Bang was, really. I'm not entirely sure what it was, but it's not that. Minus the expanding that's just a chemical reaction.

2. First there were microscopic life forums, witch grew into fish, witch evolved into Reptiles, witch evolved into Dinosaurs, witch evolved (kinds) into mammals, witch evolved into us.

Now, what about wizards, what did they grow into? These witches are very versatile, seemingly.

3. Prove god exists.

Prove you exist.

4. If he dose, why doesn’t he just say 'hi I’m god, I exists' to everyone.

Because he doesn't care. He enjoys petty religious debates, obviously.

Angleter wrote:1. The Big Bang? Yes, I agree with it (but not your version, which suggests the existence of molecules before the Big Bang).

Yeah, that's a pretty bad error on their part.

Angleter wrote:Here's a question for you- who instigated the Big Bang?

I'd go for "what" instead of "who", but for either: is "god" a better answer then "we don't know"?

Angleter wrote:2. Yes, I agree with it. Here's a question for you- who instigated the very specific and improbable conditions for life to form?

Again, I'd say "what" instead of "who", and my answer would, quite simply, be chance. There are masses* of planets out there. A decent number* of them are probably rocky. Of those, a reasonable number* are probably at temperatures that would allow life to form. Combine numbers with a large amount of time, and life is basically inevitable.

As for "very specific", the reason conditions seem so special is because life (on Earth) adapted to the conditions that were here.

(*Extreme understatements.)

Angleter wrote:3. I can't, but there are many things that cannot and will not be explained by the atheistic worldview alone.

Got examples?

Maharlika Islands wrote:God's existence can never be proved or disapproved,

Bull. If a bearded white man came down from the sky and started performing feats that violated the laws of physics and he knew the exact future, what exactly would you call him?

Tmutarakhan wrote:A question for you in turn: why do you use the word "who", when it is extraordinarily unlikely that anything like a "person" was around back then?

It's called a loaded question.

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:

Maharlika Islands wrote:God's existence can never be proved or disapproved,

Bull. If a bearded white man came down from the sky and started performing feats that violated the laws of physics and he knew the exact future, what exactly would you call him?

An alien.

Friends of Ali wrote:Uhh, Allah isn't in this universe. So, Allah couldn't just say hi I'm here. Allah could however send an angel, and prophets. Islam is the path set out for all mankind, but Allah only guides those he wishes.

So Allah isn't omnipotent?