36 dead so far at Ghost Ship Warehouse Rave

[Lunalia]

This could have been prevented.

Damn straight it could've. And you just know - you just know - both the owner and the operator will get 'emselves some slimy lawyers and try to defend themselves, no matter how much the evidence mounts.

We have seen this story before.

That's not even the biggest issue. Lawsuits forcing those responsible to pay damages can pull in other defendants, such as the manufacturers of the flammable materials that started the fire, or any advertisers working with the party who are found to have not been sufficiently careful in ensuring that their money/products were being used responsibly, in an effort to collect enough money to pay for injuries and damages, but from reading up on this I don't think there were any wealthy sponsors involved. And the people who remodeled the warehouse seem to have done a good job of ignoring warnings, so that kind of absolves the manufacturer of materials of blame.

Even if the owner and operator don't get slimy lawyers, and eventually are forced to pay damages, the damages can't exceed the amount of money they have. And they don't have enough on their own.

[Dark Triads]

That's really sad, I hope that will never happen again.


Hopefully people won't use this to demand more entitlements that they don't deserve.

Hopefully people won't use this incident to demean drug users--

Muh Free Stuff For "Starving Artists" 420 Blaze ACAB

This is totally the evil government's uptight fault, why do they have regulationz

Oh, too late.

[Gig em Aggies]

Another update: Police have stated they searched roughly 80-90% of the structure and expect to find no more bodies death toll still remains at 36. ATF investigators indicate that a possible source of the fire that broke out in Oakland could have come from a refrigerator or another appliance on the first floor near the back of the Ghost Ship warehouse in Oakland, California. Investigators say if any charges are brought it could range from involuntary manslaughter to murder. Many responded angrily to a comment made by the planner or owner of the Ghost Ship as he stated I've lost everything I've worked for. Some ask why he was so concerned for his stuff instead of the 36 lives that were lost at his establishment.

[Thermodolia]

Another update: Police have stated they searched roughly 80-90% of the structure and expect to find no more bodies death toll still remains at 36. ATF investigators indicate that a possible source of the fire that broke out in Oakland could have come from a refrigerator or another appliance on the first floor near the back of the Ghost Ship warehouse in Oakland, California. Investigators say if any charges are brought it could range from involuntary manslaughter to murder. Many responded angrily to a comment made by the planner or owner of the Ghost Ship as he stated I've lost everything I've worked for. Some ask why he was so concerned for his stuff instead of the 36 lives that were lost at his establishment.

Damn what a pretentious asshole that guy is

[The Serbian Empire]

Another update: Police have stated they searched roughly 80-90% of the structure and expect to find no more bodies death toll still remains at 36. ATF investigators indicate that a possible source of the fire that broke out in Oakland could have come from a refrigerator or another appliance on the first floor near the back of the Ghost Ship warehouse in Oakland, California. Investigators say if any charges are brought it could range from involuntary manslaughter to murder. Many responded angrily to a comment made by the planner or owner of the Ghost Ship as he stated I've lost everything I've worked for. Some ask why he was so concerned for his stuff instead of the 36 lives that were lost at his establishment.

Damn what a pretentious asshole that guy is

He's exactly why I don't like hipsters.

[Gig em Aggies]

Damn what a pretentious asshole that guy is

He's exactly why I don't like hipsters.

That's not exactly fair, meaning not all hipsters can be labeled like him I would say he's a self centered hipster concerned for only himself. Plus hipster is a general term way to broad to be used like that.

[The Serbian Empire]

He's exactly why I don't like hipsters.

That's not exactly fair, meaning not all hipsters can be labeled like him I would say he's a self centered hipster concerned for only himself. Plus hipster is a general term way to broad to be used like that.

The man in question is a living specimen of the stereotypical pretentious hipster. And cares more about himself than the fate of others who died in his warehouse.

[Gauthier]

He's exactly why I don't like hipsters.

That's not exactly fair, meaning not all hipsters can be labeled like him I would say he's a self centered hipster concerned for only himself. Plus hipster is a general term way to broad to be used like that.

I'm curious as to what a hipster ghost story would be like.

[The Serbian Empire]

That's not exactly fair, meaning not all hipsters can be labeled like him I would say he's a self centered hipster concerned for only himself. Plus hipster is a general term way to broad to be used like that.

I'm curious as to what a hipster ghost story would be like.

Someone haunted before it was cool.

[Novus America]

He's exactly why I don't like hipsters.

That's not exactly fair, meaning not all hipsters can be labeled like him I would say he's a self centered hipster concerned for only himself. Plus hipster is a general term way to broad to be used like that.

While not all hipsters are self centered narcissists, self centered narcissism and hipster go together like peanut butter and jelly. While not all hipsters are like him many are, and he perfectly embodies the modern hipster in general.

[Rozlanada]

The guy whose name was on the lease and who profited off illegally renting out warehouse space to people was interviewed by the Today Show. He had an absolute 4 minute melt down where he refused to take any type of ownership for his actions as a slumlord and claimed that he was forced to put his name on the lease, even though he profited financially.

Here's the video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oak ... b3139925c1

A few pieces of trivia about him before you watch:
- he apparently accepted non-refundable payments of $700 from each of his illegal tenants for safety changes he never made
- his three children were taken from him by CPS
- more concerned about "everything he had built" being lost than the lives of those people
- the warehouse is legally owned by a Chinese investor and is NOT up to code for residential. the city had received complaints before and he instructed his tenants to lie and claim they worked late nights and did not sleep there, even though he admits on camera that they allowed their children to sleep there (note that they were taken by CPS...)

What a total scumbag.