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Is Islam Truly a religion of peace?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:57 am
by The British Mandate Of Israel
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/g ... ic-chants/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-canada/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuV1MBNoAYA

As someone who is a Democratic Socialist, you'd be suprised to learn that I do infact hate Islam, and I consider it to be a right wing religion. (Before any Republican get's triggered, When I say right wing religion I mean it as in the fact that it takes the horrible aspects of Right wing Politics)

In my view it isn't a religion of peace and the evidence I have for it you can find in the youtube channel I linked to a youtuber I watch. Now If you want me to explain why Islam isn't peaceful I will start now.

Islam tells it's subjects to force others to believe in the religion, And many non-muslim arabs who live in the middle-east and move to Europe or America move because of it, not to mention there was a porn star a while back (If I remember I believe she was not a muslim.) Who moved from a Muslim country to America where she would start doing her line of work. Isis somehow found out who she was and sent her a picture saying that she was next.

But, with that this brings me to another discussion, Non-muslim arabian immigrant. Islam can't allow a country to develop well because it doesn't support seperation of church in state, which I will get into later and It makes many of the Non-muslims/People that call themselves 'muslims' that can work leave and go to countries where they can work. And with this Immigration Muslim countries simply can't progress, aside from Turkey and even then the country recently had gotten a leader who does not believe in seperation of church and state.

Now with non-seperation of Church and state. Islam does not allow it, neither did christanity in the past but that was only because of political views and not because of the bible it's self, with Islam even if a politician wants seperation of church and state the Muslim Population will not allow it as Islam does not allow them to.

And Finally for my final statement I'm going to bring up the Crusades. While I don't particuarly agree with the atrocities that any side did the Knights who fought for christiantity in a way were morally higher as Muslims were the one who started the war, As their book tells them to go to war with their neighbors and betray those who are weak.

That will be my final point, If anyone wishes to bring another point up or an opinion feel free to comment on this thread.

Note:
Before anyone starts saying I favor one religion over the other, I dislike all religions.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:58 am
by Chernobyliya
Its not a religion of peace.

/thread

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:59 am
by Washington Resistance Army
Jainism is the only true religion of peace.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:00 am
by Kaedshi
The British Mandate Of Israel wrote:https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/sweden-ban-christmas-lights/
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/g ... ic-chants/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-canada/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuV1MBNoAYA

As someone who is a Democratic Socialist, you'd be suprised to learn that I do infact hate Islam, and I consider it to be a right wing religion. (Before any Republican get's triggered, When I say right wing religion I mean it as in the fact that it takes the horrible aspects of Right wing Politics)

In my view it isn't a religion of peace and the evidence I have for it you can find in the youtube channel I linked to a youtuber I watch. Now If you want me to explain why Islam isn't peaceful I will start now.

Islam tells it's subjects to force others to believe in the religion, And many non-muslim arabs who live in the middle-east and move to Europe or America move because of it, not to mention there was a porn star a while back (If I remember I believe she was not a muslim.) Who moved from a Muslim country to America where she would start doing her line of work. Isis somehow found out who she was and sent her a picture saying that she was next.

But, with that this brings me to another discussion, Non-muslim arabian immigrant. Islam can't allow a country to develop well because it doesn't support seperation of church in state, which I will get into later and It makes many of the Non-muslims/People that call themselves 'muslims' that can work leave and go to countries where they can work. And with this Immigration Muslim countries simply can't progress, aside from Turkey and even then the country recently had gotten a leader who does not believe in seperation of church and state.

Now with non-seperation of Church and state. Islam does not allow it, neither did christanity in the past but that was only because of political views and not because of the bible it's self, with Islam even if a politician wants seperation of church and state the Muslim Population will not allow it as Islam does not allow them to.

And Finally for my final statement I'm going to bring up the Crusades. While I don't particuarly agree with the atrocities that any side did the Knights who fought for christiantity in a way were morally higher as Muslims were the one who started the war, As their book tells them to go to war with their neighbors and betray those who are weak.

That will be my final point, If anyone wishes to bring another point up or an opinion feel free to comment on this board.

I don't agree that it is a religion of peace. However, I feel the need to let you know that you should branch out in your sourcing. Use actual examples from the Qu'ran. You have a very limited range of sources- that's not honorable. That's what the SJWs do.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:01 am
by Crockerland
Of course it is!

As long as you're not a Jew, Christian, Atheist, Polytheist, critic of Islam, slave, or apostate.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:03 am
by Geara
Islam is not a religion of peace just based on its history. Muslims, however, are a relatively peaceful people.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:03 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Yes it is.

If you actually read the quran It will spout peace and stuff at you.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:04 am
by The British Mandate Of Israel
Crockerland wrote:Of course it is!

As long as you're not a Jew, Christian, Atheist, Polytheist, critic of Islam, slave, or apostate.


Pretty much, hell they'll kill you even if you are a muslim

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:04 am
by HATOOTEHLAND
you know its kinda hard hearing all this while I'm a muslim

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:05 am
by Gigotomo
No its not

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:05 am
by Chernobyliya
Some proof of them being violent.

From the Quran and Hadith.

24:2 Strike the adulteress and the adulterer one hundred times. Do not let compassion for them keep you from carrying out God’s law—if you believe in God and the Last Day—and ensure that a group of believers witnesses the punishment. (Quran)

And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al-Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on his face he cursed her ... (Hadith)

4:34 Husbands should take full care of their wives, with [the bounties] God has given to some more than others and with what they spend out of their own money. Righteous wives are devout and guard what God would have them guard in the husbands’ absence. If you fear high-handedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem)

There's a lot more.
Also notice how Muhammed nicknamed his swords.

Muhammad nicknames three swords that he took from the Jewish tribe Qaynuqa after he banished them from Medina in April 624: "Pluck Out," "Very Sharp," and "Death." Two other swords from elsewhere are named: "Sharp" and "That is wont to sink" (presumably into human flesh). After his Hijrah or Emigration from Mecca to Medina in 622, he owned two swords called "Sharp" and "Having the vertebrae of the back." This last sword he collected as booty after his victory at the Battle of Badr in March 624.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:06 am
by The British Mandate Of Israel
Kaedshi wrote:
The British Mandate Of Israel wrote:https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/sweden-ban-christmas-lights/
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/g ... ic-chants/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-canada/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuV1MBNoAYA

As someone who is a Democratic Socialist, you'd be suprised to learn that I do infact hate Islam, and I consider it to be a right wing religion. (Before any Republican get's triggered, When I say right wing religion I mean it as in the fact that it takes the horrible aspects of Right wing Politics)

In my view it isn't a religion of peace and the evidence I have for it you can find in the youtube channel I linked to a youtuber I watch. Now If you want me to explain why Islam isn't peaceful I will start now.

Islam tells it's subjects to force others to believe in the religion, And many non-muslim arabs who live in the middle-east and move to Europe or America move because of it, not to mention there was a porn star a while back (If I remember I believe she was not a muslim.) Who moved from a Muslim country to America where she would start doing her line of work. Isis somehow found out who she was and sent her a picture saying that she was next.

But, with that this brings me to another discussion, Non-muslim arabian immigrant. Islam can't allow a country to develop well because it doesn't support seperation of church in state, which I will get into later and It makes many of the Non-muslims/People that call themselves 'muslims' that can work leave and go to countries where they can work. And with this Immigration Muslim countries simply can't progress, aside from Turkey and even then the country recently had gotten a leader who does not believe in seperation of church and state.

Now with non-seperation of Church and state. Islam does not allow it, neither did christanity in the past but that was only because of political views and not because of the bible it's self, with Islam even if a politician wants seperation of church and state the Muslim Population will not allow it as Islam does not allow them to.

And Finally for my final statement I'm going to bring up the Crusades. While I don't particuarly agree with the atrocities that any side did the Knights who fought for christiantity in a way were morally higher as Muslims were the one who started the war, As their book tells them to go to war with their neighbors and betray those who are weak.

That will be my final point, If anyone wishes to bring another point up or an opinion feel free to comment on this board.

I don't agree that it is a religion of peace. However, I feel the need to let you know that you should branch out in your sourcing. Use actual examples from the Qu'ran. You have a very limited range of sources- that's not honorable. That's what the SJWs do.


That is the reason I linked the youtube channel but I will try giving sources later tonight, thank you for the criticism :)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:06 am
by Geara
HATOOTEHLAND wrote:you know its kinda hard hearing all this while I'm a muslim

I'm also pretty bummered when people conflate Islam with Muslims. Muslims don't deserve crap for their religion's history.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am
by HATOOTEHLAND
please don't do this


I came to nation states to escape a depression

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am
by Hammer Britannia
The short answer is, it depends, if you are talking about the civilized western muslims then yes, but if you are talking about the ones in the middle east then no.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am
by Kaedshi
HATOOTEHLAND wrote:you know its kinda hard hearing all this while I'm a muslim

I understand. I don't think that anyone is a bad person for following the teachings of Islam. I don't fault people for it. I do, however, criticize those who impress upon others concepts such as Sharia law and xenophobic tendencies. Those may or may not be a part of the teachings of Islam based on interpretation.
Tl;dr it's the religion, not the religious individual.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am
by Chernobyliya
HATOOTEHLAND wrote:please don't do this

Is it offensive to you?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:07 am
by Ifreann
I have no idea what it means to be a religion of peace, so I couldn't tell you.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:08 am
by Kaitjan
My biggest gripe with the dummies that say that "Islam is a Religion of Peace" is not that they are saying that muslims and Islam can exist in non-violent forms, but because they have the bloody GUTS to say something like that. Sure, there is peaceful Islam. Not much but there is. But saying that the religion which has probably caused most death and violence in the last 50 years is a whole other thing, and honestly it sounds extremely ignorant to me.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:08 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:09 am
by Geara
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This image is relevant

I feel lied to.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:09 am
by HATOOTEHLAND
Chernobyliya wrote:
HATOOTEHLAND wrote:please don't do this

Is it offensive to you?


yes

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:09 am
by Chernobyliya
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Yes it is.

If you actually read the quran It will spout peace and stuff at you.

ARE
YOU
FUCKING
KIDDING
ME

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:09 am
by Vassenor
You will note that the violence is carried out by a fraction of a percentage of the billion-strong global population.

But apparently the entire religion is violent.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:10 am
by Chernobyliya
HATOOTEHLAND wrote:
Chernobyliya wrote:Is it offensive to you?


yes

But why are you offended by truth?

ITS THE RELIGION, NOT THE INDIVIDUAL.