NationStates

Posted: **Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:19 pm**

On a side note: anyone else find it delightfully ironic that Jain means "conqueror."

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:09 am**

Auramazd wrote:
Indo-pasif archipelago wrote:-snip- such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda -snip-
also: Ottomans (Islam), Hitler (Christianity) and Israel (Judaism) and many more.

Wasn't Hitler Ant-Christianity?

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:12 am**

https://youtu.be/5AkAGc5nOXw

The above video holds some relevant information concerning this thread.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:19 am**

Settrah wrote:
Auramazd wrote: also: Ottomans (Islam), Hitler (Christianity) and Israel (Judaism) and many more.

Wasn't Hitler Ant-Christianity?

Yep.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:24 am**

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Settrah wrote:
Wasn't Hitler Ant-Christianity?

Yep.

No, he had some twisted hybrid of Christianity, paganism, and his own bullshit, I think. But their were definitely Christian elements in his beliefs.

This "Hitler was anti-Christian" thing is pretty much a falsehood intended to deflect criticism of Christians (and maybe play the "Hitler was an atheist so atheists are responsible for Hitler" card), I believe.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:24 am**

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Settrah wrote:
Wasn't Hitler Ant-Christianity?

Yep.

No, he was certainly anti-Catholic Church, but he wasn't an Anti-Christian.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:27 am**

yep, just like how National Socialism is a political philosophy of peace and tolerance

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:29 am**

McAncap wrote:yep, just like how National Socialism is a political philosophy of peace and tolerance

The Holy Mein Kampf has multiple interpretations :^)

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:31 am**

Oh boy this is gonna be a great time for discourse isn't it

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:52 am**

The British Mandate Of Israel wrote:As someone who is a Democratic Socialist, you'd be suprised to learn that I do infact hate Islam, and I consider it to be a right wing religion. (Before any Republican get's triggered, When I say right wing religion I mean it as in the fact that it takes the horrible aspects of Right wing Politics)

Which aspect of right wing politics, specifically? And how does that fits into the argument that Islam is an non peaceful religion? And how do you define a "peaceful religion"?

In my view it isn't a religion of peace and the evidence I have for it you can find in the youtube channel I linked to a youtuber I watch. Now If you want me to explain why Islam isn't peaceful I will start now.

Islam tells it's subjects to force others to believe in the religion

,
Source? Evidence?

And many non-muslim arabs who live in the middle-east and move to Europe or America move because of it,

There could be other economic factor that influenced those people to move out to other region of the world, don't you agree?

not to mention there was a porn star a while back (If I remember I believe she was not a muslim.) Who moved from a Muslim country to America where she would start doing her line of work. Isis somehow found out who she was and sent her a picture saying that she was next.

Implying that ISIS represent Islam is hardly fair does it now?

But, with that this brings me to another discussion, Non-muslim arabian immigrant. Islam can't allow a country to develop well because it doesn't support seperation of church in state,

Which country are you referring to? National and economic developments has a lot of factors, political leaders, stability, resources, etc etc. There are others like Malaysia and Indonesia which are developing though they are predominantly Islamic.

which I will get into later and It makes many of the Non-muslims/People that call themselves 'muslims' that can work leave and go to countries where they can work. And with this Immigration Muslim countries simply can't progress, aside from Turkey and even then the country recently had gotten a leader who does not believe in seperation of church and state.

Not seeing any evidence on this, which muslims countries are you referring to again? Again, a few failed states doesnt represent an entire religion don't you think?

Now with non-seperation of Church and state. Islam does not allow it, neither did christanity in the past but that was only because of political views and not because of the bible it's self, with Islam even if a politician wants seperation of church and state the Muslim Population will not allow it as Islam does not allow them to.

So, these said islamic countries refusal to adhere to the separation of the states doctrine automatically made them non peaceful?

And Finally for my final statement I'm going to bring up the Crusades. While I don't particuarly agree with the atrocities that any side did the Knights who fought for christiantity in a way were morally higher as Muslims were the one who started the war, As their book tells them to go to war with their neighbors and betray those who are weak.

Specific source and evidence on the last part?

That will be my final point, If anyone wishes to bring another point up or an opinion feel free to comment on this thread.
Note:
Before anyone starts saying I favor one religion over the other, I dislike all religions.

Having an opinion is one thing, and you are entitled to think whatever you chose to think concerning Islam, however when you presented a weak argument lacking substantial solid evidence backed by statistically proven materials it doesn't really persuade anyone to your line of thoughts.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:41 am**

Ugh, the amount of "izlam iz ebul" bullshit is truly staggering. Bunch of hypocrites.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:44 am**

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Chernobyliya wrote:Therefore it is still violent.

Islam is still not a religion of peace.

By your logic, no religions are peaceful.

no religions are.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:40 am**

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:Ugh, the amount of "izlam iz ebul" bullshit is truly staggering. Bunch of hypocrites.

Is it hypocrisy to think all religions are evil, then?

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:58 am**

Kaedshi wrote:
The British Mandate Of Israel wrote:https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/sweden-ban-christmas-lights/
https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2016/10/g ... ic-chants/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-canada/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuV1MBNoAYA

As someone who is a Democratic Socialist, you'd be suprised to learn that I do infact hate Islam, and I consider it to be a right wing religion. (Before any Republican get's triggered, When I say right wing religion I mean it as in the fact that it takes the horrible aspects of Right wing Politics)

In my view it isn't a religion of peace and the evidence I have for it you can find in the youtube channel I linked to a youtuber I watch. Now If you want me to explain why Islam isn't peaceful I will start now.

Islam tells it's subjects to force others to believe in the religion, And many non-muslim arabs who live in the middle-east and move to Europe or America move because of it, not to mention there was a porn star a while back (If I remember I believe she was not a muslim.) Who moved from a Muslim country to America where she would start doing her line of work. Isis somehow found out who she was and sent her a picture saying that she was next.

But, with that this brings me to another discussion, Non-muslim arabian immigrant. Islam can't allow a country to develop well because it doesn't support seperation of church in state, which I will get into later and It makes many of the Non-muslims/People that call themselves 'muslims' that can work leave and go to countries where they can work. And with this Immigration Muslim countries simply can't progress, aside from Turkey and even then the country recently had gotten a leader who does not believe in seperation of church and state.

Now with non-seperation of Church and state. Islam does not allow it, neither did christanity in the past but that was only because of political views and not because of the bible it's self, with Islam even if a politician wants seperation of church and state the Muslim Population will not allow it as Islam does not allow them to.

And Finally for my final statement I'm going to bring up the Crusades. While I don't particuarly agree with the atrocities that any side did the Knights who fought for christiantity in a way were morally higher as Muslims were the one who started the war, As their book tells them to go to war with their neighbors and betray those who are weak.

That will be my final point, If anyone wishes to bring another point up or an opinion feel free to comment on this board.

I don't agree that it is a religion of peace. However, I feel the need to let you know that you should branch out in your sourcing. Use actual examples from the Qu'ran. You have a very limited range of sources- that's not honorable. That's what the SJWs do.

If ya want sources go search up German women getting raped in subways by ~~barbaric~~ poor Muslim migrants ~~refugees~~ on YouTube mange. 2 ez :^)

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:01 am**

Belvia wrote:
Kaedshi wrote:I don't agree that it is a religion of peace. However, I feel the need to let you know that you should branch out in your sourcing. Use actual examples from the Qu'ran. You have a very limited range of sources- that's not honorable. That's what the SJWs do.

If ya want sources go search up German women getting raped in subways by ~~barbaric~~ poor Muslim migrants ~~refugees~~

But that doesn't prove the inherent badness or violence in them as much as holocaust of germans.
The actual examples of the holy book would be better along with analysis of the percentage of believers that agree with that interpretation.

Posted: **Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:07 am**

Belvia wrote:
Kaedshi wrote:I don't agree that it is a religion of peace. However, I feel the need to let you know that you should branch out in your sourcing. Use actual examples from the Qu'ran. You have a very limited range of sources- that's not honorable. That's what the SJWs do.

If ya want sources go search up German women getting raped in subways by ~~barbaric~~ poor Muslim migrants ~~refugees~~ on YouTube mange. 2 ez :^)

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Is Islam Truly a religion of peace?