What if USA was a NS nation?

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:09 am

Many nations try to answer issues in a way that will make them like a certain real life nation, but what if it someone actually perfected this; What would their stats be? What would their economy look like. There is no exact answer, no right or wrong, but what would the USA rank in Intelligence, or Mining, or Corruption?

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by **Dytarma** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:13 am

It would probably make a raider region, but use it for freedom! Plus, it would have a frightening economy, and a so-so blackmarket.

by **Socialist Tera** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:15 am

USA would powergame and demand everyone else to use it's stats. It would try to abuse the World Assembly but ignore it when it rules against him.

by **Tsunegara** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:16 am

I mean it couldn't get any worse right?

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:17 am

I'll start off with Tourism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_i ... Statistics
The US gets 67,519,113 foriegn tourists per year. This number, if made relative to the population of nationstates would be well over a billion
The Queendom of Kindjal(ranked #1) receives 9.8 billion foreign tourist a year, putting NS USA near the top of the list.

by **The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:18 am

it would be near invincible

by **Libertas Regionem** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:20 am

Leftists would telegram it all day, nonstop, about how horrible it is.

by **Dytarma** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:22 am

I'll do Industry:
The United States major industries are arms manufacturing, electronics, and lumber. This would make it, in NS, a strong nation, with which with the wood, would set up outposts on enemy lines, then barrage them with weaponry. They'd use electronics, such as computers and sattelites, to see where enemies are moving.

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:24 am

In the ammount of Foriegn aid, USA spends $43.10 billion on it.

The top player , The Womyn's Paradise of Gynostan

gives 28 million

America easily wins here

by **Outer Sparta** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:27 am

America would be at the top for defense spending and arms manufacturing to name a few.

by **Pencil Sharpeners 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:30 am

Sacred Toast wrote:I'll start off with Tourism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_i ... Statistics
The US gets 67,519,113 foriegn tourists per year. This number, if made relative to the population of nationstates would be well over a billion
The Queendom of Kindjal(ranked #1) receives 9.8 billion foreign tourist a year, putting NS USA near the top of the list.

Since charmlessness is a direct opposite of tourism, The USA would rank very lowly for that.
The USA has an athiesm rate of 3.1%, placing it in the bottom 2% of the NS World, and therefore the top 2% for religiousness.

by **Dytarma** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:31 am

US health spending is $3 trillion. The player with the most, Corsaria, spends $46,145.51. America easily crushes this.

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:33 am

To cover secularism and religousness in one heap, 23% of Americans are Atheist/Agnostic

so 23.0 being an estimated Atheist rate, putting the US at about 30% in Secularism, meaning it would be about 70% at religousness

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:34 am

Pencil Sharpeners 2 wrote:
Sacred Toast wrote:I'll start off with Tourism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_i ... Statistics
The US gets 67,519,113 foriegn tourists per year. This number, if made relative to the population of nationstates would be well over a billion
The Queendom of Kindjal(ranked #1) receives 9.8 billion foreign tourist a year, putting NS USA near the top of the list.

Since charmlessness is a direct opposite of tourism, The USA would rank very lowly for that.
The USA has an athiesm rate of 3.1%, placing it in the bottom 2% of the NS World, and therefore the top 2% for religiousness.

I would include agnostic in that rating, as it is basically saying people without religion, which would skew the religiousness

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2219229

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:36 am

Also "The Nones tend to be more politically liberal and their growth has resulted in some increases in membership of secular organizations. However, the overwhelming majority of those without religion are not joining secular groups or even aligning with secularism.[13]"

I think this statement allows us to categorize people with no religion into secularism

by **Rokodan** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:41 am

Sacred Toast wrote:Many nations try to answer issues in a way that will make them like a certain real life nation, but what if it someone actually perfected this; What would their stats be? What would their economy look like. There is no exact answer, no right or wrong, but what would the USA rank in Intelligence, or Mining, or Corruption?

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Secularism
Business Subsidization
Inclusiveness
Foreign Aid
Public Healthcare
Taxation
Welfare
Human Development Index
Government Size
Public Transport
Economy
Compliance
Public Education
Defense Forces
Safety
Intelligence
Scientific Advancement
Law Enforcement
Political Freedom
Eco-Friendliness
Lifespan
Compassion
Niceness
Average Income
Nudity
Tourism
Health
Industry: Information Technology
Industry: Book Publishing
Average Income of Poor
Pacifism
Culture
Civil Rights
Environmental Beauty
Average Income of Rich
Industry: Arms Manufacturing
Economic Output
Industry: Cheese Exports
Industry: Retail
Rudeness
Population
Ideological Radicality
Cheerfulness
World Assembly Endorsements
Sector: Manufacturing
Wealth Gaps
Industry: Insurance
Industry: Gambling
Recreational Drug Use
Integrity
Industry: Beverage Sales
Corruption
Black Market
Income Equality
Economic Freedom
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Averageness
Industry: Mining
Youth Rebelliousness
Weather
Industry: Automobile Manufacturing
Obesity
Authoritarianism
Industry: Basket Weaving
Social Conservatism
Industry: Furniture Restoration
Charmlessness
Death Rate
Industry: Trout Fishing
Residency
Influence
Political Apathy
Weaponization
Primitiveness
Ignorance
Industry: Timber Woodchipping
Crime
Sector: Agriculture
Freedom From Taxation
Employment
Religiousness

Well I don't know about stat, but if Murica is an NS state, it would get nuke, invaded and eventually CTEd.

by **Sacred Toast** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:43 am

Rokodan wrote:
Sacred Toast wrote:Many nations try to answer issues in a way that will make them like a certain real life nation, but what if it someone actually perfected this; What would their stats be? What would their economy look like. There is no exact answer, no right or wrong, but what would the USA rank in Intelligence, or Mining, or Corruption?

Post your Ideas below

Secularism
Business Subsidization
Inclusiveness
Foreign Aid
Public Healthcare
Taxation
Welfare
Human Development Index
Government Size
Public Transport
Economy
Compliance
Public Education
Defense Forces
Safety
Intelligence
Scientific Advancement
Law Enforcement
Political Freedom
Eco-Friendliness
Lifespan
Compassion
Niceness
Average Income
Nudity
Tourism
Health
Industry: Information Technology
Industry: Book Publishing
Average Income of Poor
Pacifism
Culture
Civil Rights
Environmental Beauty
Average Income of Rich
Industry: Arms Manufacturing
Economic Output
Industry: Cheese Exports
Industry: Retail
Rudeness
Population
Ideological Radicality
Cheerfulness
World Assembly Endorsements
Sector: Manufacturing
Wealth Gaps
Industry: Insurance
Industry: Gambling
Recreational Drug Use
Integrity
Industry: Beverage Sales
Corruption
Black Market
Income Equality
Economic Freedom
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Averageness
Industry: Mining
Youth Rebelliousness
Weather
Industry: Automobile Manufacturing
Obesity
Authoritarianism
Industry: Basket Weaving
Social Conservatism
Industry: Furniture Restoration
Charmlessness
Death Rate
Industry: Trout Fishing
Residency
Influence
Political Apathy
Weaponization
Primitiveness
Ignorance
Industry: Timber Woodchipping
Crime
Sector: Agriculture
Freedom From Taxation
Employment
Religiousness

Well I don't know about stat, but if Murica is an NS state, it would get nuke, invaded and eventually CTEd.

So basically Maxtopia?

by **Pencil Sharpeners 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:04 am

Dytarma wrote:US health spending is $3 trillion. The player with the most, Corsaria, spends $46,145.51. America easily crushes this.

Sacred Toast wrote:In the ammount of Foriegn aid, USA spends $43.10 billion on it.

The top player , The Womyn's Paradise of Gynostan

gives 28 million

America easily wins here

I'm pretty sure all expenditure stats are 'per citizen', so nations of different populations can be compared.
USA stats using source. (Note: all of these assume that NS currency is equal to the US Dollar):
Defence: $1876 per person (top 38% of the World)
Healthcare: $207 per person (top 93% of the World)
Education: $219 per person (top 94% of the World)
Foreign Aid: $128 per person (top 59% of the World)
Public Transport: $89 per person (top 91% of the World)
Eco Friendliness: $123 per person (top 69% of the World)

This isn't surprising. Firstly, the NS currency may not be equal to the US Dollar. Secondly, Nationstates allows people to build nations how they want without having to worry about being elected/couped/invaded etc., so many nations can focus all of their expenditure on just a few departments, something a government of a real-life democracy like The USA could never get away with.

by **Thermodolia** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:08 am

Dytarma wrote:US health spending is $3 trillion. The player with the most, Corsaria, spends $46,145.51. America easily crushes this.

Actually Corsaria spends ~1.4 trillion on health care. And the US spends only $937 billion

Also you have to actually look at the budgets and not the NS stats. As my nation spends $32.4 trillion on health care.

by **Thermodolia** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:20 am

Sacred Toast wrote:In the ammount of Foriegn aid, USA spends $43.10 billion on it.

The top player , The Womyn's Paradise of Gynostan

gives 28 million

America easily wins here

Gynostan actually spends 120 Trillion on foreign aid
The US spends a total of $43 billion but only $32 billion is actual aid the rest is military assistance

by **Pencil Sharpeners 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:27 am

Let's have a look at some economic rankings now:
GDP: $16.77Tn (top 51% of the World, not surprising given The USA's population also puts it in the top 51% of the World.)
Average income: $50,756 (top 57% of the World)
Average income of wealthiest 10%: $93,000 (top 56% of World)
Average income of poorest 10%: $5800 (top 97% of World)
Black Market: 625.5Bn (top 28% of the World)

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:27 am

If the US was a NS nation?

Well as long as it doesn't post in NSG I guess.

by **Imperial Union of America** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:41 am

It would probably be a "corporate bordello" "infamous for bombing it's neighbors for even the slightest infractions "

by **Northwest Slobovia** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:41 am

The US would be played by about fifty different people, each struggling to control the keyboard long enough to pass a couple related issues. Every time they got smacked for breaking the rules, whoever had the keyboard that moment would blame another player for doing it.

by **The Funeral Party** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:32 am

It wouldn't really last cause it would be a Modern tech nation and it would be weak in a war against a future tech nation.

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