Right Wing Discussion Thread V - Emperor's Holy Inquisition

[Napkiraly]

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

This reminds me of another video that fills me with "hoppe"

Ew, Hoppe.

While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

I think he builds a viable alternative. Whether or not it would have occurred is a different matter.

[Germanic Templars]

This reminds me of another video that fills me with "hoppe"

Ew, Hoppe.

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

I think he builds a viable alternative. Whether or not it would have occurred is a different matter.

Assuming it does happen, it would make for an interesting spin on things and communism in the long run.

I mean, assuming Trotsky is in power and defeated, what about Asian countries like Vietnam, Korea, or even China? What about Japan?

[Dushan]

While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

It's happening.

I mean, assuming Trotsky is in power and defeated, what about Asian countries like Vietnam, Korea, or even China? What about Japan?

Vietnam remains French Colony/Protectorate. Japan possibly remains in it's Imperial existence and KMT emerges victorious over the other Warlords.

All assuming that the Soviets didn do anything in Asia or had a war with Japan as well.

[Germanic Templars]

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

It's happening.

Well at least it is the first one so there is that good news.

I mean, assuming Trotsky is in power and defeated, what about Asian countries like Vietnam, Korea, or even China? What about Japan?

Vietnam remains French Colony/Protectorate. Japan possibly remains in it's Imperial existence and KMT emerges victorious over the other Warlords.

All assuming that the Soviets didn do anything in Asia or had a war with Japan as well.

Maybe so, but would that mean the war against Japan would still happen but with more resources against them?

[Napkiraly]

Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

It's happening.

I mean, assuming Trotsky is in power and defeated, what about Asian countries like Vietnam, Korea, or even China? What about Japan?

Vietnam remains French Colony/Protectorate. Japan possibly remains in it's Imperial existence and KMT emerges victorious over the other Warlords.

All assuming that the Soviets didn do anything in Asia or had a war with Japan as well.

Trotsky would have focused on Europe first and foremost and any war with Japan would have been defensive to start. Though he most likely would have gone full balls to the walls if Japan attacked.

It would be even more interesting since Japan's war with China was immensely unpopular in the West but a Trotsky led USSR would be more hated than a Stalin led USSR (and I cannot understate how fearful the West was of the USSR during the 20's and 30's).

[-Fahrong-]

RWDT post your political heroes. For me in no particular order,


1-Maodun Chanyu

2-Adolf Hitler

3-Genghis Khan

4-Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

5-Julius Evola

6-H. Nihal Atsız

7-Alp Arslan

8-Simo Hayha

9-Joseph Stalin

10-Baron Roman Nikolai Maximilian von Ungern-Sternberg

1. St John of Kronstadt.
2. Tsar Nicholas I of the Russian Empire.
3. Corneliu Codreanu.
4. Tsar Ivan IV of All Russia.
5. Zeno of Citium.
6. Carolus Rex.
7. Julius Evola.
8. Dostoevsky.
9. Plato.
10. Constantine XI.

Just some people who have inspired me in my life.

[Soadino]

6. Carolus Rex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmMaMJoNmck

[Yugoslav Memes]

RWDT, thoughts on Isocracy?

Sweet

when there is no filter by intellect any form of government that grants power to a big base of people is dangerous

[Lady Scylla]

RWDT post your political heroes. For me in no particular order,

I don't have anybody that I particularly idolise.

[Lady Scylla]

RWDT, thoughts on Isocracy?

What's the difference with this and an Anarchy or any other ideology that seemingly promotes such equality?

This one was an interesting find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocracy

I've a bad tendency to just read about random ideologies, systems, et cetera before going to bed.

[Grand Britannia]

RWDT, thoughts on Isocracy?

What's the difference with this and an Anarchy or any other ideology that seemingly promotes such equality?

This one was an interesting find: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociocracy

I've a bad tendency to just read about random ideologies, systems, et cetera before going to bed.

You're not alone.

[Luminesa]

RWDT post your political heroes. For me in no particular order,


1-Maodun Chanyu

2-Adolf Hitler

3-Genghis Khan

4-Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

5-Julius Evola

6-H. Nihal Atsız

7-Alp Arslan

8-Simo Hayha

9-Joseph Stalin

10-Baron Roman Nikolai Maximilian von Ungern-Sternberg

1. St John of Kronstadt.
2. Tsar Nicholas I of the Russian Empire.
3. Corneliu Codreanu.
4. Tsar Ivan IV of All Russia.
5. Zeno of Citium.
6. Carolus Rex.
7. Julius Evola.
8. Dostoevsky.
9. Plato.
10. Constantine XI.

Just some people who have inspired me in my life.

*When I don't know half of the people on everyone's list.*

...I took history classes...I promise...

[The V O I D]

I'm surprised none of the Christians here have attacked me for associating some of my ideals with Dawkins or LaVey.

Then again, maybe the ones here are more educated than the IRL ones I sometimes deal with, who automatically assume LaVeyan Satanists are devil worshipers. :/

[Luminesa]

I'm surprised none of the Christians here have attacked me for associating some of my ideals with Dawkins or LaVey.

Then again, maybe the ones here are more educated than the IRL ones I sometimes deal with, who automatically assume LaVeyan Satanists are devil worshipers. :/

I mean, I was surprised considering LaVey, but you're more of an atheist than an actual Satanist, I'm guessing? Or am I off? Dawkins didn't surprise me too much, no offense.

[The V O I D]

I'm surprised none of the Christians here have attacked me for associating some of my ideals with Dawkins or LaVey.

Then again, maybe the ones here are more educated than the IRL ones I sometimes deal with, who automatically assume LaVeyan Satanists are devil worshipers. :/

I mean, I was surprised considering LaVey, but you're more of an atheist than an actual Satanist, I'm guessing? Or am I off? Dawkins didn't surprise me too much, no offense.

No offense is taken. Depending on time a day, I am more or less easily offended, but not by trivial stuff like this.

And yes, I'm an atheistic person, but I like some of LaVey's points and read into lots of the Church of Satan's stuff online. It is intriguing and some of my ideology has been inspired from it at one point or another. Dawkins is obvious.

[Luminesa]

I mean, I was surprised considering LaVey, but you're more of an atheist than an actual Satanist, I'm guessing? Or am I off? Dawkins didn't surprise me too much, no offense.

No offense is taken. Depending on time a day, I am more or less easily offended, but not by trivial stuff like this.

And yes, I'm an atheistic person, but I like some of LaVey's points and read into lots of the Church of Satan's stuff online. It is intriguing and some of my ideology has been inspired from it at one point or another. Dawkins is obvious.

I guessed Dawkins because you're atheist. I mean...it would be the same as you considering Mother Teresa because I'm Catholic. Or close.

Ah. I don't know anything about it. Generally, if someone goes shouting, "HAIL SATAN," (though that would be more theistic Satanism, I suppose), though, I merely respond, "Hail Mary."

[The V O I D]

No offense is taken. Depending on time a day, I am more or less easily offended, but not by trivial stuff like this.

And yes, I'm an atheistic person, but I like some of LaVey's points and read into lots of the Church of Satan's stuff online. It is intriguing and some of my ideology has been inspired from it at one point or another. Dawkins is obvious.

I guessed Dawkins because you're atheist. I mean...it would be the same as you considering Mother Teresa because I'm Catholic. Or close.

Ah. I don't know anything about it. Generally, if someone goes shouting, "HAIL SATAN," (though that would be more theistic Satanism, I suppose), though, I merely respond, "Hail Mary."

LaVeyan Satanism is a new religious movement founded in 1966 by the American occultist and author Anton Szandor LaVey. The religion's doctrines and practices are codified in LaVey's book, The Satanic Bible. Its core philosophy is based on individualism and egoism, encouraging an epicurean pursuit of fleshly indulgence, an eye for an eye ethical code, and the concept of "self-deification". The philosophy positions itself in favor of Social Darwinism and opposes egalitarianism, seeing it as a conservator of mediocrity and decadence, and to a larger extent, the Abrahamic faiths, which are seen as lies which promote idealism, self-denigration, herd behavior, and irrationality. The philosophy seeks more draconian measures taken in the realm of law and order, and may also support some forms of eugenics. The religion propagates a naturalistic worldview, seeing mankind as animals existing in an amoral universe.

LaVey established LaVeyan Satanism in the U.S. state of California through the founding of his Church of Satan on Walpurgisnacht of 1966, which he proclaimed to be "the Year One", Anno Satanas—the first year of the "Age of Satan". His ideas were heavily influenced by the ideas and writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, and Carl Jung. The Church grew under LaVey's leadership, with regional grottos being founded across the United States. A number of these seceded from the Church to form independent Satanic organizations during the early 1970s. In 1975, LaVey abolished the grotto system, after which Satanism became a far less organized movement, although remained greatly influenced by LaVey's writings. In coming years, members of the Church left it to establish their own organisations, also following LaVeyan Satanism, among them the First Church of Satan and Karla LaVey's First Satanic Church.

The religion is atheistic and materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death. Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him. Instead, Satan is viewed as a positive archetype who represents pride, carnality, and enlightenment, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be motivated by a "dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things". The Devil is embraced as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts. Moreover, Satan also serves as a metaphorical external projection of the individual's godhood.

LaVeyan Satanism involves the practice of magic, which encompasses two distinct forms; greater and lesser magic. Greater magic is a form of ritual practice and is meant as psychodramatic catharsis to focus one's emotional energy for a specific purpose. These rites are based on three major psycho-emotive themes, including compassion (love), destruction (hate), and sex (lust). Lesser magic is the practice of manipulation by means of applied psychology and glamour (or "wile and guile") to bend an individual or situation to one's will. LaVey defined magic as "the change in situations or events in accordance with one's will, which would, using normally accepted methods, be unchangeable." LaVey espoused the view that there was an objective reality to magic, and that it relied upon natural forces that were yet to be discovered by science.

Read this for info on LaVeyan Satanism. It isn't even remotely devil worship; rather, it is worship of the self and humanity, and essentially says 'we are our own gods'. Stuff like that.

A person with a god complex, such as myself, is sure to find it appealing.

I'd advise going to their website to read up on some of their theories and practices. It's really interesting and educational.

[Luminesa]

I guessed Dawkins because you're atheist. I mean...it would be the same as you considering Mother Teresa because I'm Catholic. Or close.

Ah. I don't know anything about it. Generally, if someone goes shouting, "HAIL SATAN," (though that would be more theistic Satanism, I suppose), though, I merely respond, "Hail Mary."

LaVeyan Satanism is a new religious movement founded in 1966 by the American occultist and author Anton Szandor LaVey. The religion's doctrines and practices are codified in LaVey's book, The Satanic Bible. Its core philosophy is based on individualism and egoism, encouraging an epicurean pursuit of fleshly indulgence, an eye for an eye ethical code, and the concept of "self-deification". The philosophy positions itself in favor of Social Darwinism and opposes egalitarianism, seeing it as a conservator of mediocrity and decadence, and to a larger extent, the Abrahamic faiths, which are seen as lies which promote idealism, self-denigration, herd behavior, and irrationality. The philosophy seeks more draconian measures taken in the realm of law and order, and may also support some forms of eugenics. The religion propagates a naturalistic worldview, seeing mankind as animals existing in an amoral universe.

LaVey established LaVeyan Satanism in the U.S. state of California through the founding of his Church of Satan on Walpurgisnacht of 1966, which he proclaimed to be "the Year One", Anno Satanas—the first year of the "Age of Satan". His ideas were heavily influenced by the ideas and writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, and Carl Jung. The Church grew under LaVey's leadership, with regional grottos being founded across the United States. A number of these seceded from the Church to form independent Satanic organizations during the early 1970s. In 1975, LaVey abolished the grotto system, after which Satanism became a far less organized movement, although remained greatly influenced by LaVey's writings. In coming years, members of the Church left it to establish their own organisations, also following LaVeyan Satanism, among them the First Church of Satan and Karla LaVey's First Satanic Church.

The religion is atheistic and materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death. Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him. Instead, Satan is viewed as a positive archetype who represents pride, carnality, and enlightenment, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be motivated by a "dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things". The Devil is embraced as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts. Moreover, Satan also serves as a metaphorical external projection of the individual's godhood.

LaVeyan Satanism involves the practice of magic, which encompasses two distinct forms; greater and lesser magic. Greater magic is a form of ritual practice and is meant as psychodramatic catharsis to focus one's emotional energy for a specific purpose. These rites are based on three major psycho-emotive themes, including compassion (love), destruction (hate), and sex (lust). Lesser magic is the practice of manipulation by means of applied psychology and glamour (or "wile and guile") to bend an individual or situation to one's will. LaVey defined magic as "the change in situations or events in accordance with one's will, which would, using normally accepted methods, be unchangeable." LaVey espoused the view that there was an objective reality to magic, and that it relied upon natural forces that were yet to be discovered by science.

Read this for info on LaVeyan Satanism. It isn't even remotely devil worship; rather, it is worship of the self and humanity, and essentially says 'we are our own gods'. Stuff like that.

A person with a god complex, such as myself, is sure to find it appealing.

I'd advise going to their website to read up on some of their theories and practices. It's really interesting and educational.

Okay. I see how this works now.

...Ergh...Ayn Rand...Still not sure why I had to read "Anthem" for sophomore year of high school...I liked it at the time, now I'm not sure...They gave us the most random books to read, for some of our Honors classes...

[-Fahrong-]

I guessed Dawkins because you're atheist. I mean...it would be the same as you considering Mother Teresa because I'm Catholic. Or close.

Ah. I don't know anything about it. Generally, if someone goes shouting, "HAIL SATAN," (though that would be more theistic Satanism, I suppose), though, I merely respond, "Hail Mary."

LaVeyan Satanism is a new religious movement founded in 1966 by the American occultist and author Anton Szandor LaVey. The religion's doctrines and practices are codified in LaVey's book, The Satanic Bible. Its core philosophy is based on individualism and egoism, encouraging an epicurean pursuit of fleshly indulgence, an eye for an eye ethical code, and the concept of "self-deification". The philosophy positions itself in favor of Social Darwinism and opposes egalitarianism, seeing it as a conservator of mediocrity and decadence, and to a larger extent, the Abrahamic faiths, which are seen as lies which promote idealism, self-denigration, herd behavior, and irrationality. The philosophy seeks more draconian measures taken in the realm of law and order, and may also support some forms of eugenics. The religion propagates a naturalistic worldview, seeing mankind as animals existing in an amoral universe.

LaVey established LaVeyan Satanism in the U.S. state of California through the founding of his Church of Satan on Walpurgisnacht of 1966, which he proclaimed to be "the Year One", Anno Satanas—the first year of the "Age of Satan". His ideas were heavily influenced by the ideas and writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, and Carl Jung. The Church grew under LaVey's leadership, with regional grottos being founded across the United States. A number of these seceded from the Church to form independent Satanic organizations during the early 1970s. In 1975, LaVey abolished the grotto system, after which Satanism became a far less organized movement, although remained greatly influenced by LaVey's writings. In coming years, members of the Church left it to establish their own organisations, also following LaVeyan Satanism, among them the First Church of Satan and Karla LaVey's First Satanic Church.

The religion is atheistic and materialist, rejecting the existence of supernatural beings, body-soul dualism, and life after death. Practitioners do not believe that the character of Satan literally exists and do not worship him. Instead, Satan is viewed as a positive archetype who represents pride, carnality, and enlightenment, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be motivated by a "dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things". The Devil is embraced as a symbol of defiance against the Abrahamic faiths which LaVey criticized for what he saw as the suppression of humanity's natural instincts. Moreover, Satan also serves as a metaphorical external projection of the individual's godhood.

LaVeyan Satanism involves the practice of magic, which encompasses two distinct forms; greater and lesser magic. Greater magic is a form of ritual practice and is meant as psychodramatic catharsis to focus one's emotional energy for a specific purpose. These rites are based on three major psycho-emotive themes, including compassion (love), destruction (hate), and sex (lust). Lesser magic is the practice of manipulation by means of applied psychology and glamour (or "wile and guile") to bend an individual or situation to one's will. LaVey defined magic as "the change in situations or events in accordance with one's will, which would, using normally accepted methods, be unchangeable." LaVey espoused the view that there was an objective reality to magic, and that it relied upon natural forces that were yet to be discovered by science.

Read this for info on LaVeyan Satanism. It isn't even remotely devil worship; rather, it is worship of the self and humanity, and essentially says 'we are our own gods'. Stuff like that.

A person with a god complex, such as myself, is sure to find it appealing.

I'd advise going to their website to read up on some of their theories and practices. It's really interesting and educational.

Oh so Ayn Rand. Okay. Ryan would be proud to have you a citizen of Rapture.

[The V O I D]

Read this for info on LaVeyan Satanism. It isn't even remotely devil worship; rather, it is worship of the self and humanity, and essentially says 'we are our own gods'. Stuff like that.

A person with a god complex, such as myself, is sure to find it appealing.

I'd advise going to their website to read up on some of their theories and practices. It's really interesting and educational.

Oh so Ayn Rand. Okay. Ryan would be proud to have you a citizen of Rapture.

I like LaVey and some of the Satanist ideals, not all of them... so, yeah.

[Luminesa]

Oh so Ayn Rand. Okay. Ryan would be proud to have you a citizen of Rapture.

I like LaVey and some of the Satanist ideals, not all of them... so, yeah.

So you don't like Ayn Rand? Or you do? Just curious.

[The V O I D]

Read this for info on LaVeyan Satanism. It isn't even remotely devil worship; rather, it is worship of the self and humanity, and essentially says 'we are our own gods'. Stuff like that.

A person with a god complex, such as myself, is sure to find it appealing.

I'd advise going to their website to read up on some of their theories and practices. It's really interesting and educational.

Okay. I see how this works now.

...Ergh...Ayn Rand...Still not sure why I had to read "Anthem" for sophomore year of high school...I liked it at the time, now I'm not sure...They gave us the most random books to read, for some of our Honors classes...

Yeah. I took some of LaVey's stuff and Satanist stuff and integrated it / altered it as necessary to conform into my ideology. At least, with the aspects I derived from there that did inspire me.

[The V O I D]

I like LaVey and some of the Satanist ideals, not all of them... so, yeah.

So you don't like Ayn Rand? Or you do? Just curious.

Ayn Rand? Eh, don't feel very particular one way or the other.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No offense is taken. Depending on time a day, I am more or less easily offended, but not by trivial stuff like this.

And yes, I'm an atheistic person, but I like some of LaVey's points and read into lots of the Church of Satan's stuff online. It is intriguing and some of my ideology has been inspired from it at one point or another. Dawkins is obvious.

I guessed Dawkins because you're atheist.

>_> I'm an Atheist and I'm not a big fan off Dawkins. Why ya gotta go assuming things?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I like LaVey and some of the Satanist ideals, not all of them... so, yeah.

So you don't like Ayn Rand? Or you do? Just curious.

Nobody likes Ayn Rand.