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Imperial Union of America
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Repeal women's suffrage

Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:41 pm

How about we strip the right to vote from women? After all, men are the heads of the household, why should we waste our time extending such rights to women who do not have to experience life outside the home in the same manner as a man?

Not to mention the devastating effects of female voters on the electoral college.


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http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/12/ ... women.html

Infact, i recently read an article that provided several compelling reasons for removing the female 'right' to vote;

http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2014/1 ... o-not.html

some of the most compelling reasons i saw here;

1) “Because the basis of government is force – its stability rests upon its physical power to enforce its laws; therefore it is inexpedient to give the vote to woman. Immunity from service in executing the law would make most women irresponsible voters.”

2) “Because the suffrage is not a question of right or of justice, but of policy and expediency; and if there is no question of right or of justice, there is no case of woman suffrage.”

8) “Because the women’s suffrage movement is a backward step in the progress of civilization, in that it seeks to efface natural differentiation of function, and to produce identity, not division, of labor.”

11) “Because it is our fathers, brothers, husbands and sons who represent us at the ballot box. Our fathers and our brothers love us; our husbands are our choice, and one with us; our sons are what WE MAKE THEM. We are content that they represent us, in the cornfield, on the battlefield and at the ballot box, and we THEM in the schoolroom, at the fireside, and at the cradle, believing our representation even at the ballot box to be thus more full and impartial than it would be were the views of the few who wish suffrage adopted, contrary to the judgement of the many.

It cost more to have women vote, too.


Being a fascist, i believe no one should have the right to vote, instead a strong leader must be risen from within the ranks of the Nation's strongest. But women vote emotional, men vote practical and realistic, generally speaking, if we must vote at all.
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Postby Ebliania » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:44 pm

Are Democrats really this toxic to you?

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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:45 pm

Ebliania wrote:Are Democrats really this toxic to you?


Yes.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:45 pm

Are you serious? You likely live in democratic country where you can freely choose your leaders and think your one vote is trivial and doesn't matter. I suggest you look at dictatorships like Eritrea which has no elections and one of the worst human rights records and no freedom of the press. Or Belarus, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan( where elections have no real choice and you have to get permission from the government to move somewhere else) or North Korea and then tell me how wonderful they are. Or better yet live there and get back to me on how great they are.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:45 pm

Why don't we strip men's right to vote? We've fucked up the planet for centuries, let the lady's have a go, and see how things turn out.

OH btw if you really love men being in control, I hear ISIS is looking for a few good men, and the Taliban, they definitely support your cause!
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Postby Jordkloden » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:46 pm

Right. And while we're at it, why don't we sterilize...*ahem* undesirables as well.

Srsly though this is ridiculous.
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Postby Prusselanden » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:47 pm

The more votes we can get the better. Sometimes emotions speak better than Pragmatism and where our minds fail our morals will guide us.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm

I'm indifferent to the right to vote for women. If they overwhelmingly voted Republican i'd just as soon remove male suffrage.
I don't believe in democracy, in any case.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm

Well, before I saw your thread I would have said "no" to ending women's suffrage, And now that I've seen your thread I am "hell, no" on ending women's suffrage.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Usniya » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm

You're almost as edgy as the pol pot apologists.

Shoot, I'm probably giving you ideas there...
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:49 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:I'm indifferent to the right to vote for women. If they overwhelmingly voted Republican i'd just as soon remove male suffrage.
I don't believe in democracy, in any case.


I suggest you tell your mother and grandmother that if they are still around, and gauge their reactions. :)
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Postby Jebal Shammar » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:Being a fascist


At least your honest about it :clap:

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Postby Prusselanden » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Not to mention this thread only appeals to Trump voters, so...
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:I'm indifferent to the right to vote for women. If they overwhelmingly voted Republican i'd just as soon remove male suffrage.
I don't believe in democracy, in any case.

Go live in Eritrea(one of the worst human rights records and no freedom of the press) , Uzbekistan(you have to get permission from the government to move somewhere and there is no real choice in elections) , Turkmenistan, Belarus or North Korea and tell me how wonderful dictatorships are. Its really sad when I hear people say they want a dictatorship when they live in a democratic country and have no idea what it actually entails.
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Postby Zaxumadi » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Why don't we strip men's right to vote? We've fucked up the planet for centuries, let the lady's have a go, and see how things turn out.

OH btw if you really love men being in control, I hear ISIS is looking for a few good men, and the Taliban, they definitely support your cause!


Yeah, but they're sexist violent brown people, in Trump's America only sexist violent white people are accepted. Also there sexist violent view of god's will is worse than the good Christian sexist violent view of god's will, because they can't eat bacon.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Wow, you are really butthurt that a guy who is basically just an isolationist liberal isn't winning the election.
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Postby Usniya » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Prusselanden wrote:Not to mention this thread only appeals to Trump voters, so...

I don't think he's trying to appeal to anyone.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Let's ignore the morality for a second and focus on practicality.

This would require a system of control beyond that formerly in place. The alternative is, eventually, women would fight for the right to vote in various ways. The resources this would require would be substantial, both in material and in manhours.
Can you demonstrate that the cost of womens allegedly poor voting decisions is higher in terms of material and manhours to deal with, than would be the cost of surveillance, control, and segregation necessary?
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Zaxumadi wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Why don't we strip men's right to vote? We've fucked up the planet for centuries, let the lady's have a go, and see how things turn out.

OH btw if you really love men being in control, I hear ISIS is looking for a few good men, and the Taliban, they definitely support your cause!


Yeah, but they're sexist violent brown people, in Trump's America only sexist violent white people are accepted. Also there sexist violent view of god's will is worse than the good Christian sexist violent view of god's will, because they can't eat bacon.


Hey. Hey now. Don't go bringing about facts into this FINE thread!!!!
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Postby The Mesozoic Era » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:52 pm

Black Pigeon Speaks has an interesting video as to how women can prove to be catastrophic in a democracy. It's a very big red pill to swallow, but he ends it in a very good question, I'll put it in my own words and provide a link. Let's say, hypothetically, we prove that women and men aren't equal; What should we even do with that reality? Western civilization promotes women's suffrage and equal voting rights. Would our society really repeal equal voting rights for women?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:54 pm

The Mesozoic era wrote:Black Pigeon Speaks has an interesting video as to how women can prove to be catastrophic in a democracy. It's a very big red pill to swallow, but he ends it in a very good question, I'll put it in my own words and provide a link. Let's say, hypothetically, we prove that women and men aren't equal; What should we even do with that reality? Western civilization promotes women's suffrage and equal voting rights. Would our society really repeal equal voting rights for women?


That's a great video.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:54 pm

Yeah, no.

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Postby Prusselanden » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:55 pm

Yeah like, we'd have to spend money on security to keep women from entering voting booths not allowing women to vote and then women would rise up in revolt and protest and then it'll be hella messy for the military, and then if women vote with the ban in place there'll be an excrutiating legal process that we'll have to make up.

Dude, it's not worth the time and effort. Let's just like, let everyone over 18 vote. It's less complicated that way.

No one wants to spend effort or money on it.
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Postby New Owca » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:55 pm

Silly goose, women can have just as much and possibly even more life experience than certain men.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:56 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The Mesozoic era wrote:Black Pigeon Speaks has an interesting video as to how women can prove to be catastrophic in a democracy. It's a very big red pill to swallow, but he ends it in a very good question, I'll put it in my own words and provide a link. Let's say, hypothetically, we prove that women and men aren't equal; What should we even do with that reality? Western civilization promotes women's suffrage and equal voting rights. Would our society really repeal equal voting rights for women?


That's a great video.


Why aren't you replying to anyone who disagrees with you?
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