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Postby Kravanica » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:08 pm

To put it more specifically due to the absurdly short limits placed on the title, Congress overrode the President's veto on a bill that would allow 9/11 families to sue Saudi Arabia.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/override-obama-veto-911-bill/index.html

It seems that, despite all the partisanship in Congress these days, both Republicans and Democrats can come together in the spirit of mutually raising the middle finger to the Saudis. This is the first veto override of President Obama's tenure. Interestingly, the only vote against the override in the Senate came from the drunkard staggering around on the Senate floor. I believe his name is Harry Reid.

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Personally I'm ecstatic about this. It allows the families of 9/11 victims to finally get the justice they deserve. I will never understand why our government protects Saudi Arabia, a country spreading Wahhabism and death around the world. No matter what your political views, let us all agree on this: fuck Saudi Arabia.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:10 pm

What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

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Postby Ebnious » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:11 pm

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:12 pm

So this is the beginning of the end.

At least I get to see the fires start.
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Postby Danceria » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:12 pm

Kravanica wrote:To put it more specifically due to the absurdly short limits placed on the title, Congress overrode the President's veto on a bill that would allow 9/11 families to sue Saudi Arabia.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/override-obama-veto-911-bill/index.html

It seems that, despite all the partisanship in Congress these days, both Republicans and Democrats can come together in the spirit of mutually raising the middle finger to the Saudis. This is the first veto override of President Obama's tenure. Interestingly, the only vote against the override in the Senate came from the drunkard staggering around on the Senate floor. I believe his name is Harry Reid.

Thoughts, NSG?

Personally I'm ecstatic about this. It allows the families of 9/11 victims to finally get the justice they deserve. I will never understand why our government protects Saudi Arabia, a country spreading Wahhabism and death around the world. No matter what your political views, let us all agree on this: fuck Saudi Arabia.

> MFW OP naively believes we exist in a society that can function without as steady supply of foreign oil
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Postby Danceria » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:13 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:So this is the beginning of the end.

At least I get to see the fires start.

Not sure whether to say "We didn't start the fire" or banepost because "the fire rises".
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Postby Flavionia » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:13 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

Most of the perpetrators were Saudi Arabian and some believe the Saudis had knowledge of the attack but didnt try to stop it. I dont really have more details.
idk wut 2 put here

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Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:14 pm

Danceria wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:So this is the beginning of the end.

At least I get to see the fires start.

Not sure whether to say "We didn't start the fire" or banepost because "the fire rises".

I mean. If you're American, we did start the fire.

Though once the oil runs out, the fire will inevitably go out as well.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:15 pm

...yes I totally can see how citizens being able to sue foreign sovereign entity can only end up well :roll:
Also good luck enforcing any judgement, I don't think US writs carry in Saudi.
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Postby Tinfect » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:15 pm

So... uh, as much as I like to see terrorist ass being kicked in courtrooms at home and abroad, what the fuck does the entire country of Saudi Arabia have to do with 9/11, and why the fuck are we trying to piss them off while we're still dependent on them for much of our oil?
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:16 pm

Why, Harry Reid? I can't imagine his being the hold out on this will go over well with voters, and he's already in danger of losing his Senate seat. Given how close things are, his idiocy on this matter could actually cost the Democrats the Senate.
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Postby Korica » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, Osama bin laden was from Saudi Arabia and that the Saudi government funded it, so yeah they had a lot to do with it.
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Postby Danceria » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:17 pm

Tinfect wrote:So... uh, as much as I like to see terrorist ass being kicked in courtrooms at home and abroad, what the fuck does the entire country of Saudi Arabia have to do with 9/11, and why the fuck are we trying to piss them off while we're still dependent on them for much of our oil?

This guy gets it.

Also, not smart to sue an entire country for the actions of a few. That just causes those who are on the fence to hate us more.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:17 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoIg23ExTng
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:19 pm

Korica wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, Osama bin laden was from Saudi Arabia and that the Saudi government funded it, so yeah they had a lot to do with it.

Well, them and Trump. Trump paid most of it.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:19 pm

Ok, it's the first override in Obama's time as president. Pretty historic. And if the Saudis pull out all of their oil, it's their loss. We only get around 6% of our oil from them
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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:20 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Ok, it's the first override in Obama's time as president. Pretty historic. And if the Saudis pull out all of their oil, it's their loss. We only get around 6% of our oil from them

Sorry, 8.1%
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Postby Danceria » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Ok, it's the first override in Obama's time as president. Pretty historic. And if the Saudis pull out all of their oil, it's their loss. We only get around 6% of our oil from them

Pardon me for being (probably woefully uninformed) pessimistic, but that's 6% more oil than we have.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:21 pm

Korica wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, Osama bin laden was from Saudi Arabia and that the Saudi government funded it, so yeah they had a lot to do with it.


When you say that the Saudi government funded it, do you mean that some members of the bloated Saudi Royal family had financial ties to the attackers, or is this some conspiracy bullshit where you make an unproven claim that the Saudi government as a whole committed an act of war against the US that America conveniently ignored for fifteen years?

Also, that 15 Saudis committed a horrific act, or even that Bin Landen was Saudi, does not make the entire nation collectively guilty or their government responsible.

I mean, I hate the Saudi government, but that doesn't make the reasoning any less ridiculous.
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Danceria wrote:
Tinfect wrote:So... uh, as much as I like to see terrorist ass being kicked in courtrooms at home and abroad, what the fuck does the entire country of Saudi Arabia have to do with 9/11, and why the fuck are we trying to piss them off while we're still dependent on them for much of our oil?

This guy gets it.

Also, not smart to sue an entire country for the actions of a few. That just causes those who are on the fence to hate us more.

Bolded emphasis mine.

Why not? Most of our legal system, dozens of law suits and all those "Product Warnings" are effectively for the masses because of the actions of the few.

It'll be interesting to see how this turns out though, whether or not the impending lawsuits are going to be subject to the "selective justice" of this administration.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:22 pm

Danceria wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Ok, it's the first override in Obama's time as president. Pretty historic. And if the Saudis pull out all of their oil, it's their loss. We only get around 6% of our oil from them

Pardon me for being (probably woefully uninformed) pessimistic, but that's 6% more oil than we have.

We could easily make up for it, actually, we actually have a lot more oil than many people know. We don't rely on the Middle East for our oil as much anymore, it's mostly Latin America and Canada.
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Flavionia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

Most of the perpetrators were Saudi Arabian and some believe the Saudis had knowledge of the attack but didnt try to stop it. I dont really have more details.

So did George W. Bush and we don't sue him.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What did Saudi Arabia do with 9/11?

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis, Osama bin laden was from Saudi Arabia and that the Saudi government funded it, so yeah they had a lot to do with it.


So 15 out of 19 bad guys where from one patch of earth so, we are suing the government of that patch of earth.

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Postby The Miarii Empire » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:23 pm

No no no, we have it all wrong; you switch to clean energy THAN fuck with the Saudis. (and by fuck with I mean bomb)
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:24 pm

The Miarii Empire wrote:No no no, we have it all wrong; you switch to clean energy THAN fuck with the Saudis. (and by fuck with I mean bomb)


Make it fusion and don't bomb them, and I agree.

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