Military uniforms and helmets discussion thread

[Val Halla]

There is no greater uniform than that of the carabinier.

[Novus America]

Well in most places in Europe the swastika is banned, with no exception for historical uses. Even WWII videogames get censored.

That's not really true. They are openly displayed in German museums and can be used in historical films for example. To my knowledge games just fall under a weird category in German law and are considered "entertainment" not "art" and so are censored.

Well true, they have an "educational" and "art" exception but that is very narrow. I doubt it applies to historical reinactments but I do not know for sure.

[Arlenton]

There is no greater uniform than that of the carabinier.

Do you mean French Carabiniers?

[Prosorusiya]

I really like the new US Army all blue dress uniforms, I just wish we saw more of them. The US needs more military parades, it would help restore confidence in the Federal Government. They'd be ideal wear for when the National Guard has march in to clean up after whatever mess the civilian police forces (a concept I once firmly believed in but now have absolutely no confidence in) have made.

That bit of politicking aside, I'd like to see some 19th can. Russian uniforms as well. I'm a big fan of Kepis, Shakos, Frock Coats, and Zouaves, so you could say my military fashion tastes are more French than anything. I am quite fond of the Mongol Uniforms as well, and British cavalry is pretty as well. I guess on the Germanic\Slavic side I'm quite fond of Uhlan uniforms and Russian peaked caps.

I've also thought the French Adrian helmet looked the nicest, followed by the East German\Soviet\Inter-Czechoslovak rimless helmets.

[Arcturus Novus]

There is no greater uniform than that of the carabinier.

I wanted to argue, but...

[The Wolven League]

Always loved 19th century Russian uniforms.

I'd post a picture, but this damned phones not letting me.

[Melon feud]

Well,I've got a w.w.II German helmet I swapped a 10 y.o. kid up in northern Norway ($5 bucks U.S. and a life jacket strobe light marker) from what I understood they would go up in the hills and and find them in the spring, he had one that looked like a w.w.I helmet cuz it still had those two knobs on the outside where you could attach that front plate armor thingy,but it was pretty rusted up/ pitted,I made it clear to him I wanted no rust/ Pitts,,,and it had to have a liner,,,he came back with what was prolly his grandpa's army issue #42 pattern (the kid really wanted that strobe light)

Then I've got an original set of waffen SS collar tabs,,,I used to drink beers with this old W.W.II VET who shot the guy wearing them in the back with his M-1 garand,,,cuz he was hauling his prison camp guarding German ass away,Don, said he walked up and cut them off his uniform (this was late in the war and most of the smart Germans had already fled the scene, this guy prolly had just been promoted to like "2nd Lt. equivalent" 3 diagonal bronze cluster thingys and you can see the silver pipping hand sewed with white thread/rush job)

That's awesome, for just $5 and a strobe light? German helmets today aren't cheap. I have what seems to be a Spanish Model Z, a Spanish copy of the German M35, that's painted in Arika Korps colors and insignia. So I don't have an actual German helmet, but I bought an SS Oak Leaf camo cover for it and it fits the Model Z just fine.

I assume the collar tabs look like this?

SS-Untersturmführer (SS 2nd Lieutenant)

Wow,cool!
No, those 'cluster-jobs' are brass or maybe Even copper IDK?,,I've secured them in individual little zip lock street dope plastic bags,along with a couple .oz of gold/some silver,, that helmet has a pretty oxidized aluminum inside liner ring,then leather attached and then laced up in a circle at the top of the where it rests on yer' 'top-knot'

(I think your pretty cool,friend.)

Let me add this extra little bit of 'info' being the hairy chested/wayfaring wander/ gypsy that I am,,, I had 'stashed' that German helmet up in the roof/rafter trusse's of my fathers damn near 100 yard long shop building he had, when he passed on,I went home and it was "AWOL",, AFTER INTENSIVE HEATED ENQUIRERY my little brother had snagged it some time in the past, and that colt's .357mag I'd laid on my dad (a good one) needless to say I had to drive up to northern Ohio to retrieve my sh*t,,he still don't want none of my action and he's 6'4"! 240lb.
Luv u guys.

[Herargon]

I like the German uniforms and helmets during World War II. I do not like it when the swastika is censored on the uniform. That undermines history for the sake of political correctness. Models of uniforms should be as historically accurate as possible.

I agree, but is the swastika censored for reenactors in Europe? Here in the US, reenactors wear M35 helmets with swastikas and SS runes and everything. Generally every reenactment or military equipment sale around here has Nazi German flags and badges with the swastikas all over the place.

The swastika or hooked cross is forbidden for usage, yes. In most of Europe (not all, but nevertheless a quite large part of it). But there are certain exceptions, although it remains very strict. Such as:

• for historical usage (re-enactments, for example — although out of honour and respect for the victims and due to it being a taboo, people don't even use it that often there).

• for movies and films - but not games. It is allowed like in movies that focus on the time. Think of Der Untergang, The Inglorious Bastards, et cetera.

• for educative purposes (musea for example might have WW2 objects that include a swastika).

It isn't the Hindu swastika that is hated by people there, although they might frown upon it because they haven't seen it before and think: 'an inverted swastika? ... oh, that's the Hindu one, allright...' It is only the Nazi type of 1/8th turned hooked cross that is really hated since it is a symbol of hate, discrimination against anything, and oppression and death. Many people died because of the ideology it represents. That's why it is banned in most of Europe.


That said, I personally really like the French uniforms from the tide of Napoleon. Or the current Bundesheer (land army), or the Dutch Marechaussée uniforms.

[Rio Cana]

Going back to the 15 century, the Incas also had a type of uniform for the military.

The warriors celebrated the end of their training with a celebration called a Huarachcu; this is where they received the following: a metal badge, a uniform called Huara, military shoes called Ojotas and big earrings which represented their military rank.

The Inca warriors wore very strong protection. They carried shields made of both copper and wood and a copper chest apron with hardened leather and cotton on the inside for comfort. Also they wore copper tibia protectors as well as arm protection. The warriors wore helmets made of either copper or wood that were decorated with feathers – the amount of feathers on their helmet determined their military rank.

Photo of what it looked like - https://incancivilisation.files.wordpre ... .jpg?w=418

They also had ranks. See spoiler for rank chart -

Inca Rank-----------------------Current equivalent------------Number of soldiers under their command

Aucac Runa------------------ Soldier------------------------------ 0
Púcara Camayuk-------------Castillian---------------------------0
Runancha---------------------Guide------------------------------- 0
Quipa Camayuk--------------Trumpeter--------------------------0
(wooden trumpet)
Choru Camayuk--------------Trumpeter--------------------------0
(conch shell)
Huancar Camayuk-----------Drummer--------------------------- 0
Unanchayanac---------------Subaltern--------------------------- 5
Chunga Kamayuk------------Sub-lieutenant--------------------10
Piccka Chunka Kamayuk--- Lieutenant-------------------------50
Pachac Kamayuk------------ Centurion-------------------------100
Guaranga Kamayuk---------Battalion Leader----------------1,000
Kamayuk----------------------Officer
Apu Randin-------------------Captain Lieutenant
Hatun Apu Randin-----------Lieutenant Commander
Apu----------------------------Captain
Hatun Apu--------------------Brigadier General----------- 4,000-5,000
Apusquin Rantin------------- Major General------------------10,000
Apusquispay------------------Army General----------The whole field army

[Lydenburg]

I've always fancied these WWI medieval-looking French helmets designed to protect the face from shell splinters and grenade fragments:


Trench-storming gear in the first world war was incredible.

[Arlenton]

I really like the new US Army all blue dress uniforms, I just wish we saw more of them. The US needs more military parades, it would help restore confidence in the Federal Government. They'd be ideal wear for when the National Guard has march in to clean up after whatever mess the civilian police forces (a concept I once firmly believed in but now have absolutely no confidence in) have made.

That bit of politicking aside, I'd like to see some 19th can. Russian uniforms as well. I'm a big fan of Kepis, Shakos, Frock Coats, and Zouaves, so you could say my military fashion tastes are more French than anything. I am quite fond of the Mongol Uniforms as well, and British cavalry is pretty as well. I guess on the Germanic\Slavic side I'm quite fond of Uhlan uniforms and Russian peaked caps.

I've also thought the French Adrian helmet looked the nicest, followed by the East German\Soviet\Inter-Czechoslovak rimless helmets.

I got you fam.

Russian Grenadiers during the Napoleonic Wars.

Russian Infantry during the Crimean War

French Voltigeurs of the Imperial Guard, 1860

French Chasseur of the Imperial Guard, 1860

French Infantry, 1870

Prussian Jager, 1870

Chicago Zouaves Cadets at the start of the American Civil War

14th NYSM with French style uniforms in the American Civil War

Louisiana French style Zouaves and Chasseur in the ACW

An Ohio unit in the ACW had a pretty cool grey uniform and shako.

Various ACW Union troops with some French style uniforms and kepis.

Italian Redshirts attacking Sardinian (?) Infantry, 1860s. French influence was strong on both sides.

[Uxupox]

The beat Uniforms are obviously the Germans ones used during their tenure in WW2 though the OCP also looks badass and is my close favorite. Only bad thing about tje OCP its that its costly as fuck.

[The Wolven League]

I really like the new US Army all blue dress uniforms, I just wish we saw more of them. The US needs more military parades, it would help restore confidence in the Federal Government. They'd be ideal wear for when the National Guard has march in to clean up after whatever mess the civilian police forces (a concept I once firmly believed in but now have absolutely no confidence in) have made.

That bit of politicking aside, I'd like to see some 19th can. Russian uniforms as well. I'm a big fan of Kepis, Shakos, Frock Coats, and Zouaves, so you could say my military fashion tastes are more French than anything. I am quite fond of the Mongol Uniforms as well, and British cavalry is pretty as well. I guess on the Germanic\Slavic side I'm quite fond of Uhlan uniforms and Russian peaked caps.

I've also thought the French Adrian helmet looked the nicest, followed by the East German\Soviet\Inter-Czechoslovak rimless helmets.

I got you fam.

Russian Grenadiers during the Napoleonic Wars.

Russian Infantry during the Crimean War

French Voltigeurs of the Imperial Guard, 1860

French Chasseur of the Imperial Guard, 1860

French Infantry, 1870

Prussian Jager, 1870

Chicago Zouaves Cadets at the start of the American Civil War

14th NYSM with French style uniforms in the American Civil War

Louisiana French style Zouaves and Chasseur in the ACW

An Ohio unit in the ACW had a pretty cool grey uniform and shako.

Various ACW Union troops with some French style uniforms and kepis.

Italian Redshirts attacking Sardinian (?) Infantry, 1860s

'ey, that's the picture I was trying to post! Thanks, mate.

[Vorond]

The most badass hat imho:

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

[Arlenton]

The most badass hat imho:

(Image)

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

Nice! Never looked into the Zeppelin crew uniforms.

[The Wolven League]

The most badass hat imho:

(Image)

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

You call that "badass"?

Mate...

[San Marlindo]

The most badass hat imho:

(Image)

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

Looks very Colonel Blimp-ish and campy.

[Arlenton]

The most badass hat imho:

(Image)

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

You call that "badass"?

Mate...

Lets not forget that a company of the 6th Alabama Infantry during the American Civil War wore Davy Crockett coonskin caps in order to appear more badass. They even called themselves the "Raccoon Roughs".

[Zostra]

The most badass hat imho:

(Image)

German WW1 Marine-Luftschiffabteilung - the Zeppelin-bombardiers!

Well, and then there's of course the iconic Pickelhaube.

You call that "badass"?

Mate...

Mackensen is cheating when it comes to being badass

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Helmets promote cowardice.

Speaking of bayonet charges, IJA officers in the 30-40's were literally taught that drawing your gunto and screaming 天皇陛下万歳 yielded the same firepower as a dozen riflemen. <.<

On topic: I've been taking a liking to the IJN Full Dress, mostly because I'm unable to say no to bicorns and gilded epaulettes.

[Pimps Inc]

You call that "badass"?

Mate...

(Image)

Lets not forget that a company of the 6th Alabama Infantry during the American Civil War wore Davy Crockett coonskin caps in order to appear more badass. They even called themselves the "Raccoon Roughs".

Willhelm II Pickelhaube

Or Maximilian I of Mexico's just because the eagle is eating a snake and just Germanic uniforms in general.

Though in naval uniforms, the Soviets in the latter half of the Cold War were king.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh this is a thread I can get behind. Anybody else miss the uniforms of, like, the victorian age?

[Pimps Inc]

Oh this is a thread I can get behind. Anybody else miss the uniforms of, like, the victorian age?

Of what nation and what decade of it?

[Internationalist Bastard]

Oh this is a thread I can get behind. Anybody else miss the uniforms of, like, the victorian age?

Of what nation and what decade of it?

Of every nation around like, the 1860s really. I love them all

[Yugoslav Memes]

yugoslav m59 was nice tho