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Postby Benuty » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:08 am

Blakullar wrote:Meh. The whole hating-the-other-guy shtick has been around pretty much since the inception of civilisation if not the human race, and it won't be going away anytime soon. The silver-lining is that things are better than what they were before (for now).

Then you have people who actually want to bring it all back which astounds me.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:12 am

Now It may be because I live in Canada, but I don't really see the hatred described here.

Not in my everyday life. Only on the internet.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:14 am

No humanity was always hateful towards each other, political correctness did a good job at forcing people to self censor their hate but things have now reached a breaking point that it cannot be contained anymore.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:22 am

People haven't changed, they are just taking advantage of the anonymity of the internet. Every time people troll, in ways that most people find offensive, they increase the pressure to remove that anonymity.
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Postby Ava Ire » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:24 am

As if people haven't always been hateful towards one another.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:30 am

'Become' hateful? Ha!
If history tells us anything it's that humans have been cursed with xenophobia, and war, and genocide for the past few thousand years.

But lately with the spread of globalism and the internet and mass media it seems that that trend may in time start to go the other way.

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Postby Luziyca » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:34 am

We're just noticing it more. But humanity has always hated "them." Even when we have no choice but to ally with the "them", we still have this notion of "us and them."

Hell, even to this day, nations which are very close still have stereotypes: for example, the USA stereotypes Canadians as living in igloos, or how you speak another Scandinavian language by having a potato in your mouth. And of course, many people tend to stereotype Africa as "uncivilized."

I think personally, even if we tried our damnedest to repress the hate; to be more accepting of others, it cannot ever go away. After all, it is human nature for us to define "us" compared to "them." Even if we reach some glorious utopia where there are no nations, we'll still identify with groups.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:37 am

Luziyca wrote:We're just noticing it more. But humanity has always hated "them." Even when we have no choice but to ally with the "them", we still have this notion of "us and them."

Hell, even to this day, nations which are very close still have stereotypes: for example, the USA stereotypes Canadians as living in igloos, or how you speak another Scandinavian language by having a potato in your mouth. And of course, many people tend to stereotype Africa as "uncivilized."

I think personally, even if we tried our damnedest to repress the hate; to be more accepting of others, it cannot ever go away. After all, it is human nature for us to define "us" compared to "them." Even if we reach some glorious utopia where there are no nations, we'll still identify with groups.

That last one I blamed on our shit education system.
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Postby Unidox » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:40 am

Grand Britannia wrote:Hating each other is a human past time.

^This

I guess one could roll it up with "idle hands are the devil's playground/workshop" motto. For us humans I guess it is easier for to find a scapegoat for the state of our surrounding instead of investing time and effort to come to a real solution. Mostly I guess because we already know any solution would require us to sacrifice; but hey, I got mine, Jack.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:47 am

Genivaria wrote:
Luziyca wrote:We're just noticing it more. But humanity has always hated "them." Even when we have no choice but to ally with the "them", we still have this notion of "us and them."

Hell, even to this day, nations which are very close still have stereotypes: for example, the USA stereotypes Canadians as living in igloos, or how you speak another Scandinavian language by having a potato in your mouth. And of course, many people tend to stereotype Africa as "uncivilized."

I think personally, even if we tried our damnedest to repress the hate; to be more accepting of others, it cannot ever go away. After all, it is human nature for us to define "us" compared to "them." Even if we reach some glorious utopia where there are no nations, we'll still identify with groups.

That last one I blamed on our shit education system.
"All the Africans lived in poverty and ignorance until the Europeans showed up and everything was sunshine and rainbows!"
Ugh.

Indeed.

Personally, education can help make us more open-minded, provided that we invest in the tools to make it effective. But knowing humanity, we'd rather point fingers and blame someone else.
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Postby Marxistische Republik von Deutschland » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:59 am

To be honest, I think it's a little silly you're mainly just turning your focus towards comments you don't politically agree with instead of talking about actual atrocities. Like genocides, war crimes, hatred, ethnic cleansings, etc.

If your question is "Has humanity become hateful towards each other?", yeah, they have been for quite a while. They've been hateful of each-other since humans were tribes. If you had 1 trillionth of a penny each time a group of people declared war on another group of people, you would be able to flood the American economy and cause nationwide inflation 14,000 times.
If your question is "Has humanity become hateful towards each other because these people I don't politically affiliate with have different opinions than me", then no.

No offense, really, but that's how it sounds coming off.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:05 pm

Genivaria wrote:'Become' hateful? Ha!
If history tells us anything it's that humans have been cursed with xenophobia, and war, and genocide for the past few thousand years.

But lately with the spread of globalism and the internet and mass media it seems that that trend may in time start to go the other way.
Which goes against human nature which is why there's so much opposition rising up against it.
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Postby Zudril » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:07 pm

It used to be part and parcel to murder all the men of a tribe and rape the women.

We did not get more "hateful".
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Postby Krumbia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:30 pm

To echo what a lot of people have said - I don't see this in day-to-day life, only on the internet. Also, I don't think humanity has ever stopped being hateful towards each other.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:54 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Genivaria wrote:'Become' hateful? Ha!
If history tells us anything it's that humans have been cursed with xenophobia, and war, and genocide for the past few thousand years.

But lately with the spread of globalism and the internet and mass media it seems that that trend may in time start to go the other way.
Which goes against human nature which is why there's so much opposition rising up against it.

Ugh this shit again.
Please demonstrate that there even is such a thing before you try and arbitrarily designate something as inherent to humanity.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:59 pm

Maybe this isn't clear, but Muslim immigrants and "refugees" cause 77% of all rapes. I'm not opposed to open borders, but Muslims need to integrate. Many of them also support sharia, which is unacceptable.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:01 pm

Pantuxia wrote:Maybe this isn't clear, but Muslim immigrants and "refugees" cause 77% of all rapes. I'm not opposed to open borders, but Muslims need to integrate. Many of them support the IS, which is unacceptable.

If true, which I would want independent verification from of someone more credible than a wordpress blog (" The foreign rape figures at 77.6% Muslim has been anonymously confirmed by Swedish police in a phone conversation. The actual figure could be higher. " is extremely suspect).

If they refugees support ISIS, why are they fleeing ISIS?
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Postby Skyviolia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:03 pm

Pantuxia wrote:Maybe this isn't clear, but Muslim immigrants and "refugees" cause 77% of all rapes. I'm not opposed to open borders, but Muslims need to integrate. Many of them support the IS, which is unacceptable.

Maybe you would like to use a more credible source than an obviously biased website?
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Postby Prolix Debate » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:05 pm

Hate is a natural and social filter between those of opposing views. If anything, hate is the only reason why human society and civilization has evolved the way it did; for without hate, no identities could be forged against a brother, and without hate, the spurs of technology would be abated due to its revolution in bringing forth change through death.

In short, it always has, and always will. It is innate to hate.
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:07 pm

Gauthier wrote:Human resentment and spite is at a high. Look at how Trump is doing in the presidential race despite a litany of bigoted comments and a record of cheating every living creature around him.


I don't think the level of spite and hatred has changed, but it has become more acceptable to spout it publicly.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Maybe this isn't clear, but Muslim immigrants and "refugees" cause 77% of all rapes. I'm not opposed to open borders, but Muslims need to integrate. Many of them support the IS, which is unacceptable.

If true, which I would want independent verification from of someone more credible than a wordpress blog (" The foreign rape figures at 77.6% Muslim has been anonymously confirmed by Swedish police in a phone conversation. The actual figure could be higher. " is extremely suspect).

If they refugees support ISIS, why are they fleeing ISIS?

Ah sorry, made a mistake.

_edited_

Anyway, on the topic of refugee crime, here you go:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... me-thanks/
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Immigrant crime rose 79% in 2015.

http://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Press ... -2015.html
Official German government report.
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Postby Vlamistaatti » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:46 pm

Say, "couple hundred" years back if a horde of adult middle-eastern/African men illegally snuck through European country's border, it would have been chop chop.

Today we give them financial security, housing for free and the government might go through the effort of getting them an actual job placement.

If anything, we have become less hateful in general sense.

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Postby New Edom » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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I agree. I think people are becoming oversensitive to racism and sexism and sometimes cannot tell the difference between identifying something or preferring something and being a bigot.

I disagree.


Actually I should be more clear: SOME people are becoming oversensitive and make things difficult in this regard because they are often more provocative and loud about it.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:18 pm

New Edom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I disagree.


Actually I should be more clear: SOME people are becoming oversensitive and make things difficult in this regard because they are often more provocative and loud about it.

Disagreement stands.
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