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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:54 am
by Atramentar
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.

That's the biggest controversy from the Johnson campaign, versus the avalanche of bullshit from the Red and the Blue? Holy hell, this country is one broken fucking toy.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:55 am
by Major-Tom
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


I'd rather have a goofy and slightly underwhelming head of state with a crap foreign policy than a lazy and batshit idealogue or a careerist with no moral backbone.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:55 am
by Major-Tom
Atramentar wrote:
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.

That's the biggest controversy from the Johnson campaign, versus the avalanche of bullshit from the Red and the Blue? Holy hell, this country is one broken fucking toy.


Yeah, really, compared to other gaffes, its very underwhelming.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:55 am
by Galloism
Ok, so I want to bring up Donald's taxes again.

As an accountant, it bothers me far more than I predicted that Donald won't release his taxes. For many years now, I have analyzed the taxes of each candidate for NSG, partly as an idle curiosity but mostly to see the summary of the candidates financial lives themselves.

Donald's refusal, and his son's admission that it's to keep people like me from analyzing them, has really rubbed me the wrong way.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:56 am
by The Pris0ner
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:http://www.270towin.com/maps/oB9BB

My predictions.


Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.


She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:58 am
by Gauthier
Galloism wrote:Ok, so I want to bring up Donald's taxes again.

As an accountant, it bothers me far more than I predicted that Donald won't release his taxes. For many years now, I have analyzed the taxes of each candidate for NSG, partly as an idle curiosity but mostly to see the summary of the candidates financial lives themselves.

Donald's refusal, and his son's admission that it's to keep people like me from analyzing them, has really rubbed me the wrong way.


Maybe someone will take it as a dare from the Trumps to doxx his tax returns. We can only hope.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:58 am
by The Princes of the Universe
The Pris0ner wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.

She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.

There's no way they'll turn on him now. He's too good for their ratings.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:59 am
by Washington Resistance Army
The Pris0ner wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.


She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.


I REALLY don't see anything from today hurting him but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:03 pm
by Valaran
Major-Tom wrote:
Eh, NM is a lost cause, its a blue state through and through because of its Latino population. As for NH, Clinton is ahead 3-5 points in aggregate polling.

When it comes down to it, it is very close, and Clinton has to capture Colorado and several other swing states to make sure she wins.


In the long run, I agree, but I've seen some weird polling over it (EV, specifically). I've also seen higher for Clinton in NH, though with a recent dip. Its too early to say that's she's in serious trouble there.

Close sure, but not 50/50.Depending on how the next week or two goes, I might revise that.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:05 pm
by Sarkerland
Why do i have a hunch that the forum is biased and only reacts when its against their collective ideology...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:05 pm
by Gauthier
The Pris0ner wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pretty much how I see it going unless Clinton has a hell of a recovery and Trump really screws up.


She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.


Except the "Liberal Media" is so determined to milk a horse race as long as possible they'll continue to harp on Hillary Clinton scratching herself while bending over and taking it in the ass from Trump, who in turn bends over and takes it in the ass from Vladimir Putin like a pornographic Human Centipede.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:05 pm
by The Pris0ner
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Pris0ner wrote:
She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.


I REALLY don't see anything from today hurting him but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.


He owes President Obama an apology for starters. There are calls being made for him to do so. Let's face it. You'd want an apology if people said this shit about you for years, wouldn't you? I fucking would.
Well, this is the president, not some average citizen. He needs to apologize, or he can reverse course again. He's stupidly put himself in a box now and don't think Obama himself is gonna let this opportunity pass. ;)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:11 pm
by Gauthier
The Pris0ner wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I REALLY don't see anything from today hurting him but we'll just have to wait and see I guess.


He owes President Obama an apology for starters. There are calls being made for him to do so. Let's face it. You'd want an apology if people said this shit about you for years, wouldn't you? I fucking would.
Well, this is the president, not some average citizen. He needs to apologize, or he can reverse course again. He's stupidly put himself in a box now and don't think Obama himself is gonna let this opportunity pass. ;)


Instead Donny went to habit and passed the buck on, projecting that Clinton started the Birther movement.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:11 pm
by Sarkerland
Gauthier wrote:
The Pris0ner wrote:
She doesn't need " a hell of a recovery." She needs to reverse a bit of a trend. She definitely still holds the higher ground here. She can seize on what Donald said today about his flip flop on his signature birther issue. She has a major opening here and the press is pissed for being used today with those vets he brought out for 20 minutes and then did 2 lines on the birther shit. They felt baited and clearly said so. CNN was furious about it and some news producer from ABC was booted by Trump's campaign. That will hurt Trump bc the media will retaliate. Count on it.


Except the "Liberal Media" is so determined to milk a horse race as long as possible they'll continue to harp on Hillary Clinton scratching herself while bending over and taking it in the ass from Trump, who in turn bends over and takes it in the ass from Vladimir Putin like a pornographic Human Centipede.

Nice try shill boy.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:31 pm
by European Guilds

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:32 pm
by Vassenor
Sarkerland wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Except the "Liberal Media" is so determined to milk a horse race as long as possible they'll continue to harp on Hillary Clinton scratching herself while bending over and taking it in the ass from Trump, who in turn bends over and takes it in the ass from Vladimir Putin like a pornographic Human Centipede.

Nice try shill boy.


It's generally considered appropriate to attack a person's arguments rather than simply declare them a shill.

It also reflects badly on you when you fall for blatant sarcasm.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:33 pm
by The Princes of the Universe

Finding out that their darling doesn't give a damn about them won't change shit.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:35 pm
by Arlenton

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:39 pm
by Vassenor


But the Liberal Media(tm) is supposed to be part of a massive conspiracy to undermine him and would never ever ever air anything depicting him as anything other than a puppy-raping spawn of Satan.

Or are you saying the Internet lied to me?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:40 pm
by Khadgar
Vassenor wrote:


But the Liberal Media(tm) is supposed to be part of a massive conspiracy to undermine him and would never ever ever air anything depicting him as anything other than a puppy-raping spawn of Satan.

Or are you saying the Internet lied to me?


For interest's sake Alt+0153 is the ™ symbol.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:44 pm
by Vassenor
Khadgar wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
But the Liberal Media(tm) is supposed to be part of a massive conspiracy to undermine him and would never ever ever air anything depicting him as anything other than a puppy-raping spawn of Satan.

Or are you saying the Internet lied to me?


For interest's sake Alt+0153 is the ™ symbol.


Because I totally have time to memorise Unicode sequences.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:48 pm
by Geilinor
Major-Tom wrote:
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


I'd rather have a goofy and slightly underwhelming head of state with a crap foreign policy than a lazy and batshit idealogue or a careerist with no moral backbone.

You think Johnson isn't a career politician? He was a two-term governor and this is his second time running for president.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:48 pm
by USS Monitor
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


A lack of good alternatives. It's easier to tell someone what Aleppo is than to fix a personality disorder or wrongheaded ideology.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:52 pm
by Nariterrr
USS Monitor wrote:
Sarkerland wrote:"What is Aleppo?"
No seriously now why are people still voting for Johnson.


A lack of good alternatives. It's easier to tell someone what Aleppo is than to fix a personality disorder or wrongheaded ideology.

You might want to know what the largest city of Syria is if you want to be the leader of the free world...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 12:53 pm
by Major-Tom
Geilinor wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I'd rather have a goofy and slightly underwhelming head of state with a crap foreign policy than a lazy and batshit idealogue or a careerist with no moral backbone.

You think Johnson isn't a career politician? He was a two-term governor and this is his second time running for president.


Actually, no, let me explain. As opposed to compromising some of his more "out of touch" positions, he sacrificed his chances to ever win on a national level by staying consistent with his values. In New Mexico, he was perhaps one of the most fiscally hawkish governors, something that should've cost him all of his popularity in a populist blue state. It just happened not to.

Compare this to Hillary who has spent her whole career in politics, not just in politics, but knees deep in the slimy shit and corruption. She compromises on what she calls her core values as often as Trump, and her track record simply doesn't compare to Johnsons.

Johnson may not be the most experienced or intelligent, but hes competent and has some good ideas. I'd vote for him.