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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:42 pm

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No, but let's switch to hitting. Let's agree that Crystl Bustos was one of the greatest softball power hitters of all time. Her longest homerun was probably 250 feet, though she claims one hit in an exhibition in Waco went at least 350. Hard to know with short fences.


Yes but half of hitting is the speed of the pitch. So, softball is just that - soft. The pitches are soft. There's less energy.


Which then begs a question I don't have an answer for. What does that sort of hit look like coming off a 98 mile an hour fastball? I do think that, with time, the hand-eye speed issue can be resolved.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:42 pm

I mean even if she was a baseball player, I'm sure she could play on the Brooklyn Nets, with how bad they are :P
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:44 pm

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Sure, but Monica Abbott's 70+ mph fastball at Tennessee didn't exactly move like Wakefield's. If we could develop players with Abbott's power and Wakefieldesque movement, we'd be golden.


Softballs are also bigger than baseballs and the pitch motion is different. If she was throwing overhand with a baseball I imagine she could have hit the 90s.

Or at least exceeded Tim Wakefield's meager velocity at minimum and probably fall into late career Bartolo Colon area in the 80s, maybe grazing close to 90.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:45 pm

New Elesar wrote:No. Women don't have the same physical capabilities as men. If they want to have their own league, that's fine. But it'd just be unfair to have a woman play in the Majors.

Why would it be unfair? They'd have to work their way up the ladder like anyone else.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:47 pm

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Yes but half of hitting is the speed of the pitch. So, softball is just that - soft. The pitches are soft. There's less energy.


Which then begs a question I don't have an answer for. What does that sort of hit look like coming off a 98 mile an hour fastball? I do think that, with time, the hand-eye speed issue can be resolved.

Depends on the style of swing as it could be Giancarlo Stanton 500 foot home run or a seeing-eye single from Jose Iglesias.
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:53 pm

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Sure, but Monica Abbott's 70+ mph fastball at Tennessee didn't exactly move like Wakefield's. If we could develop players with Abbott's power and Wakefieldesque movement, we'd be golden.


Softballs are also bigger than baseballs and the pitch motion is different. If she was throwing overhand with a baseball I imagine she could have hit the 90s.


I'll grant the first statement. To look at the second and see what the batter's distance would be, we'd need a computer physics simulator. Anyone have one?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:54 pm

Communal Ecotopia wrote:
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Softballs are also bigger than baseballs and the pitch motion is different. If she was throwing overhand with a baseball I imagine she could have hit the 90s.


I'll grant the first statement. To look at the second and see what the batter's distance would be, we'd need a computer physics simulator. Anyone have one?

I dont. What does this have to to too with the OP?

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:54 pm

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I'll grant the first statement. To look at the second and see what the batter's distance would be, we'd need a computer physics simulator. Anyone have one?

I dont. What does this have to to too with the OP?


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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:55 pm

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Softballs are also bigger than baseballs and the pitch motion is different. If she was throwing overhand with a baseball I imagine she could have hit the 90s.


I'll grant the first statement. To look at the second and see what the batter's distance would be, we'd need a computer physics simulator. Anyone have one?


Sadly know. But, having taken AP Physics 1, I can at the very least say that the reduced mass of a baseball would mean the power put in but the motion would definitely grant an increase in speed. Also, from experience, overhand puts in more power than underhand.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:55 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I dont. What does this have to to too with the OP?


Arguing whether women could cut it.

Well I certainly think they could. No need to bring complicated science into it.

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:56 pm

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Arguing whether women could cut it.

Well I certainly think they could. No need to bring complicated science into it.


But... SCIENCE!
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:57 pm

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I'll grant the first statement. To look at the second and see what the batter's distance would be, we'd need a computer physics simulator. Anyone have one?

I dont. What does this have to to too with the OP?


We're seeing whether Monica Abbott's 70-72 mile an hour softball fastball (the record speed, IIRC, was 73 from Japan's Yukiko Ueno) would turn into a 98 mph beast if thrown with a harder baseball and if a power-hitting softball legend could translate the increased pitch speed from a 250 foot home-run into a 350 foot one?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:57 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Well I certainly think they could. No need to bring complicated science into it.


But... SCIENCE!

yeah but I don't think the question I asked needs to be analyzed scientifically

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:59 pm

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But... SCIENCE!

yeah but I don't think the question I asked needs to be analyzed scientifically


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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:59 pm

Gauthier wrote:There's no crying in baseball!

No crying? Isn;t that a sexist statement? So women couldnt play because they'd be too emotional?

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Postby Crockerland » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:00 pm

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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But... SCIENCE!

yeah but I don't think the question I asked needs to be analyzed scientifically

I don't think you understand baseball.
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Postby Shonburg » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:06 pm

Where's our favorite poster claiming this movie is just an example of feminists controlling the media to push a narrative?
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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But... SCIENCE!

yeah but I don't think the question I asked needs to be analyzed scientifically


Why? We've already dispatched with the moral dimension (or, at least, RIG and I have), and now remains the questions, "can they hack it?" (pun intended).
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:10 pm

Shonburg wrote:Where's our favorite poster claiming this movie is just an example of feminists controlling the media to push a narrative?

Its not a movie its a tv series. Plus I don't think any reasonable person would believe that. Its something that may happen very soon.

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Postby Aquesta » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:11 pm

Yea in their own division not in the male one
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:12 pm

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Gauthier wrote:There's no crying in baseball!

No crying? Isn;t that a sexist statement? So women couldnt play because they'd be too emotional?


Clearly not. #moviereference #aleagueoftheirown
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:12 pm

Aquesta wrote:Yea in their own division not in the male one

Why? Why not allow them to play alongside men?

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Postby Shonburg » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:13 pm

Aquesta wrote:Yea in their own division not in the male one

If they have the skill to compete in the MLB, why should they not perfect prevented from pkaying?
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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 4:14 pm

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Aquesta wrote:Yea in their own division not in the male one

If they have the skill to compete in the MLB, why should they not perfect prevented from pkaying?


I spoke too soon. There are doubters on the moral end. If they can hack it, so to speak, why shouldn't they play?
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