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What if: Your country becomes a Leninist/Maoist country?

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How would you react to the referendum?

I would be really happy/help the new status quo
66
15%
I would resume life as usual
68
16%
Peacefully resist
50
12%
Flee/ask another country for invasion
82
19%
Assassinate leaders, blow up buildings, kill military leaders until the state is dismantled.
140
33%
Other
23
5%
 
Total votes : 429

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Kubra
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Postby Kubra » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:06 pm

Free Rhenish States wrote:
Kubra wrote: Look I shouldn't have to be the one to tell you that folks for quite a few centuries have considered the idea of morality that isn't necessarily religious

The religion was what gave folks the morality by setting these rules.


Let's have an example of how you "take things literally."

Observe the following passage


Let us consider your sort of literal: All these things I have therefore said. I have said the train will not come on sunday, and I have also said that that can't be right at all. What a strange sort of doublethink!
Or, this is just a shot in the dark, perhaps quotation marks have some usage in written language?

You expect a liar's paradox to convince me that Marx is either schizophrenic or someone who would write "we outlaw religion, morality and all truths" just like that?
The religion? Which one?
Since you are so wise, do elaborate on the religious development of paleolithic man. This has been quite a conundrum for anthropologists.
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Postby Stojam » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:09 pm

My people are the most Devout and Conservative, if my country becomes Leninist/Maoist country, well, there will be lots of riots, and people trying to assassinate leaders.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:13 pm

Stojam wrote:My people are the most Devout and Conservative, if my country becomes Leninist/Maoist country, well, there will be lots of riots, and people trying to assassinate leaders.

What country is that? The US?

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Postby Bhikkustan » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:15 pm

I would come out and celebrate.
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Postby Stojam » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:17 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Stojam wrote:My people are the most Devout and Conservative, if my country becomes Leninist/Maoist country, well, there will be lots of riots, and people trying to assassinate leaders.

What country is that? The US?


No, Alternative, Very Conservative, Very Relligious, Pro-Capitalist, timeline of Bulgaria.
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Postby Bhikkustan » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:18 pm

Stojam wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:What country is that? The US?


No, Alternative, Very Conservative, Very Relligious, Pro-Capitalist, timeline of Bulgaria.

This thread is talking about real life, not your nation.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:18 pm

Stojam wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:What country is that? The US?


No, Alternative, Very Conservative, Very Relligious, Pro-Capitalist, timeline of Bulgaria.

General is OOC.

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Postby Novaya Equestria » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:45 pm

I'd either flee to America or lead a counter revolutionary government, similar to Admiral Kolchak's.
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Postby Kubra » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:48 pm

Novaya Equestria wrote:I'd either flee to America or lead a counter revolutionary government, similar to Admiral Kolchak's.
might wanna suck less than him tho
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:32 am

Bhikkustan wrote:I would come out and celebrate.


I wouldn't go that far... But a tweak or two (Read: make less authoritarian), and I am with you.
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Postby Yugoslav Memes » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:42 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:The people of Ragnarum would not stand for it, and they are all armed. A group of extremely secretive assassins would almost immediately kill the leader for straying from Ragnaran values and the situation would draw to a close very quickly.

How about that?

This is an OOC forum.

How about that?

Freefall11111 wrote:
Stojam wrote:
No, Alternative, Very Conservative, Very Relligious, Pro-Capitalist, timeline of Bulgaria.

General is OOC.

Cut them some slack will ya, this does sound like some sketchy title for a F&NI thread and not a NSG one for some. :p
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Postby Frank Zipper » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:48 am

It depends, will there be a cultural revolution that ends badly for Simon Cowell?
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Postby Valkalan » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:04 am

My great-grandfather abandoned Mexico when the government nationalized his trolley company during the Mexican Revolution. His ancestors abandoned Spain during the Napoleonic Wars. If the US succumbs to communist rule, I will do as my ancestors have and leave, and never look back. Based upon who wins the election this fall, I am already considering moving to either Switzerland or Singapore.
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Postby Oesterrepublik » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:50 am

Benuty wrote:
Oesterrepublik wrote:What I'm saying, is i'm not willing for the citizens of the new socialist republic to die because of your fairytale. If you act like a terrorist, expect to die.

Says the slave to the free man.

I'm not the one that believes in serving an all-powerful dictator in the sky fam

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Postby Communal Ecotopia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:25 am

Free Rhenish States wrote:
Kubra wrote:ANo, a revolt against reading comprehension below undergrad-level. Let me reproduce for you a larger amount of the passage, instead of the snippet provided


Read it actual read it.

Or, better yet, let us take what you've said to its conclusion. If your interpretation of the snippet were true, then it would also be true that marx outlawed morality. Which, of course, I doubt you claim, right? Right?

No. :P Morality is an integral part of religion, and if Marx outlawed religion, letting morality be would have been inconsistent. Unlike you, I take Marx's word literally, without interpreting it in any way.

P.S: Use the proper spelling, reading you is very uncomfortable.


Morality can very clearly have a secular base. I'm more or less a fusion of a Kantian and an existentialist, and while the former had some Christian grounding (for Kant), it needn't have.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:39 pm

Ideally, I would probably help set up a Leninist state. A Maoist state, eh... I would probably want to contribute as much as I could.

But realistically? Probably continue life as usual. Probably just join the local communist party, and maybe try to use it to achieve my political dreams.
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Postby New Assam » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:14 pm

Realistically, I would probably lack the means to flee during such a scenario, so, in the case of a Lenninist state, I would stay and just try to make the best of it in the hope that the country would be liberated by the Americans or Europeans. Maoism is a whole other level of terrible and, if I was unable to leave the country, I would probably just kill myself and hope to take a few of them with me.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Oesterrepublik wrote:
Benuty wrote:Says the slave to the free man.

I'm not the one that believes in serving an all-powerful dictator in the sky fam

Oh look another person who actually doesn't know that all the Abrahamic religions have multiple versions of god.

Keep being edgy my friends.
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Postby Nuevo Meshiko » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:36 pm

People would pour into the streets in celebration, if they haven't already.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:00 pm

Nuevo Meshiko wrote:People would pour into the streets in celebration, if they haven't already.

General is OOC.

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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:14 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Nuevo Meshiko wrote:People would pour into the streets in celebration, if they haven't already.

General is OOC.


I am amazed at how many people are failing to see this is in general.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:14 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:General is OOC.


I am amazed at how many people are failing to see this is in general.

I assume they're people who just post in everything on the "latest forum topics" bar.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:43 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:General is OOC.


I am amazed at how many people are failing to see this is in general.

Perhaps they were actually talking about their in real life country?

I mean it could be pretty shitty there for all we know.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:46 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
I am amazed at how many people are failing to see this is in general.

I assume they're people who just post in everything on the "latest forum topics" bar.


Probably.

Benuty wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
I am amazed at how many people are failing to see this is in general.

Perhaps they were actually talking about their in real life country?

I mean it could be pretty shitty there for all we know.


Like what? North Korea? Ethiopia? Somalia? Romania?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Benuty » Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:48 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:I assume they're people who just post in everything on the "latest forum topics" bar.


Probably.

Benuty wrote:Perhaps they were actually talking about their in real life country?

I mean it could be pretty shitty there for all we know.


Like what? North Korea? Ethiopia? Somalia? Romania?

I can think of several countries in the world who probably wouldn't mind a change in pace. More than just those four for various sociopolitical reasons.
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