To burkini or not burkini, that’s the question.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

If we are to obey Allah (SWT), which we declare by the way, then we should follow Allah's (SWT) laws. Same goes for other people who follow a religion.

I agree. That doesn't mean we should institute religious law upon them.

Actually...

[Galloism]

Err, well, I don't see a problem with 'punishment' provided the absolute highest punishment is "you'll be kicked out of the club", aka disfellowshipping, excommunication, etc.

Sure, I agree with you there. However, I'm referring to legal punishment.

Well yeah, that's a bad thing.

[Butballs]

Wear what the fuck you want when you want. I dint give a shit if you come to shopping butt naked
As long as you're not harming anyone, you're fine. The burkini shouldn't be banned and banning articles of clothing just because they're against your culture is a stupid and dick move .

[Kubumba Tribe]

Wear what the fuck you want when you want. I dint give a shit if you come to shopping butt naked

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As long as you're not harming anyone, you're fine. The burkini shouldn't be banned and banning articles of clothing just because they're against your culture is a stupid and dick move .

That's right.

[Galloism]

Wear what the fuck you want when you want. I dint give a shit if you come to shopping butt naked

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As long as you're not harming anyone, you're fine. The burkini shouldn't be banned and banning articles of clothing just because they're against your culture is a stupid and dick move .

That's right.

Having been to a nude beach or two in my time, I just want to point out that most of the people who go naked are the ones who should probably never be seen naked.

Like me, for instance.

[Kubumba Tribe]

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That's right.

Having been to a nude beach or two in my time,

Why'd you go?

I just want to point out that most of the people who go naked are the ones who should probably never be seen naked.

[Galloism]

Having been to a nude beach or two in my time,

Why'd you go?

I just want to point out that most of the people who go naked are the ones who should probably never be seen naked.

Had never been.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Why'd you go?

Had never been.

But you just typed that you'd been to a nude beach once or twice.

[Wallenburg]

Had never been.

But you just typed that you'd been to a nude beach once or twice.

I think what Gallo is saying is that he went to a nude beach because he had never been to one before.

[Kubumba Tribe]

But you just typed that you'd been to a nude beach once or twice.

I think what Gallo is saying is that he went to a nude beach because he had never been to one before.

>facepalm< Duh.

[Gauthier]

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That's right.

Having been to a nude beach or two in my time, I just want to point out that most of the people who go naked are the ones who should probably never be seen naked.

Like me, for instance.

"Check out that pasty scarred motherfucker!"

[Threlizdun]

And the reason we should forbid people from wearing their preferred clothing is?

For the sake of cultural and national uniformity. The love towards a religion can often bring together people from different parts of the world in friendship, which is good, likewise, the love for the nation and it's culture, the upholding of it's traditions and customs, will continue to be a unifying factor for people within a nation.
No one has the right to come into a nation, demand to live there and work there, reaping the benefits, without behaving like anyone else there. Like I have said earlier, imagine your neighbour just comming in to your home, wearing only his underpants, and doing as he likes. Surely, it is neighbourly duty, in some way, to be friendly to eachother, even to invite eachother over, but mutual respect and integrity are necessary.
This is in no way something against immigrants, islam, or arabs, it is mearly the rightful demand that they must utterly integrate. If they do not like it, they can, and have to, move away, as their customs are not native there.

The problem with this is that you are viewing culture as a static phenomenon. That simply isn't the case. Culture is always changing in response to the changes in the environment, technology, available resources, and population makeup of those within the area where the culture is dominant. French culture now is radically different from French culture of the past. Attempts to prevent change to existing cultural norms is an attempt to go against the historical trajectory of culture. French culture is decided by French citizens, and French Muslims are still French citizens, and have just as much right to decide the direction French culture moves in just as much as Non-Muslim French citizens do. The natural conclusion of this is not to try to halt any influence of Islam within French culture, but to recognize that there is now a segment of French culture that also incorporates Islamic elements. Your argument that we must prohibit the self-expression of Muslim citizens while still respecting their rights as French citizens is inconsistent, as the only way to actually respect their rights as French citizens is to respect their right to influence the national culture.

[Kekixico]

Clothing.

>Burkini is offensive and oppressive to women.

Is still clothing.

White male just trying to ease tension.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Clothing.

>Burkini is offensive and oppressive to women.

Is still clothing.

White male just trying to ease tension.

On top of the fact that it's not oppressive.

[Kekixico]

Clothing.

>Burkini is offensive and oppressive to women.

Is still clothing.

White male just trying to ease tension.

On top of the fact that it's not oppressive.

That was point. To point out a stupid statement made by supposed "feminists" and government officials. The burkini comes from a different culture, like how a bikini is from a different culture to Muslims and other, more modest cultural/ethnic groups, yet people still flip out about it. Also, stop saying it's racist ( the ban), Muslims are not a race, they are members of the religion Islam.

[Wallenburg]

On top of the fact that it's not oppressive.

That was point. To point out a stupid statement made by supposed "feminists" and government officials. The burkini comes from a different culture, like how a bikini is from a different culture to Muslims and other, more modest cultural/ethnic groups, yet people still flip out about it. Also, stop saying it's racist ( the ban), Muslims are not a race, they are members of the religion Islam.

Kubumba never said the ban was racist.

[Kekixico]

That was point. To point out a stupid statement made by supposed "feminists" and government officials. The burkini comes from a different culture, like how a bikini is from a different culture to Muslims and other, more modest cultural/ethnic groups, yet people still flip out about it. Also, stop saying it's racist ( the ban), Muslims are not a race, they are members of the religion Islam.

Kubumba never said the ban was racist.

Never said he did, I was just addressing another point others have made here on NS and other sites.

[Galloism]

Kubumba never said the ban was racist.

Never said he did, I was just addressing another point others have made here on NS and other sites.

Don't think I've seen anyone say it's racist.

We have said it's bigoted. That's because it is.

[Kubumba Tribe]

YESSSSSS!

[Kubumba Tribe]

Never said he did, I was just addressing another point others have made here on NS and other sites.

Don't think I've seen anyone say it's racist.

We have said it's bigoted. That's because it is.

There have been those who typed that the ban was racist.

[Kekixico]

Don't think I've seen anyone say it's racist.

We have said it's bigoted. That's because it is.

There have been those who typed that the ban was racist.

^ What I meant.

[Auristania]

There have been those who typed that the ban was racist.

^ What I meant.

Arabophobia is racist
Islamophobia is religionist
Shariaophobia is hating those muslims who are terrorists AND not hating those Muslims who are anti-terrorist.
Mahala won a Nobel peace Prize for being anti-terrorist. Kurdish Workers fight terrorists that is why Caliph Erdogan tries to genocide Kurds.

[Kekixico]

^ What I meant.

Arabophobia is racist
Islamophobia is religionist
Shariaophobia is hating those muslims who are terrorists AND not hating those Muslims who are anti-terrorist.
Mahala won a Nobel peace Prize for being anti-terrorist. Kurdish Workers fight terrorists that is why Caliph Erdogan tries to genocide Kurds.

Not sure if upset with me or just pointing out facts...

[Kubumba Tribe]

^ What I meant.

Arabophobia is racist
Islamophobia is religionist
Shariaophobia is hating those muslims who are terrorists AND not hating those Muslims who are anti-terrorist.
Mahala won a Nobel peace Prize for being anti-terrorist. Kurdish Workers fight terrorists that is why Caliph Erdogan tries to genocide Kurds.

Supporting Allah's (SWT) laws are not terroristic. I do, but I'm not a terrorist.

[Tibety]

I feel there's a litle religional harassment here...