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Nuclear Weapons: Your Opinion

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Do you oppose Nuclear Weapons?

No
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Yes
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38%
Other (Please State)
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Nuclear Weapons: Your Opinion

Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:56 pm

Are Nuclear Weapons in your opinion, good or bad?

Nuclear Weapons, have brought up issues in the past, à la Tony Blair and in particular locations. I have mixed views about the topic. With them being a devastating, radiation-inducing weapon, that can leave large areas rendered uninhabitable for a long time, I oppose them. However, I feel it is necessary for nations to own these, as deterrents from others using it (MAD/Mutual Assured Destruction), thus making a Nuclear Attack less likely in theory.


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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:02 pm

Bad.
But as soon as one state has them it's necessary for others to also have them to retain the balance of power.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:05 pm

Alvecia wrote:Bad.
But as soon as one state has them it's necessary for others to also have them to retain the balance of power.

Agreed. Damn you Nazi and American Scientists..
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:07 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Bad.
But as soon as one state has them it's necessary for others to also have them to retain the balance of power.

Agreed. Damn you Nazi and American Scientists..


And British, Russian, French, Chinese, South African... :p
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Postby Unified Heartless States » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:07 pm

Good, most will die and radiation doesn't last nearly as long people believe.

More myth than really.

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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:08 pm

Absolutely bad. their only purpose is to massacre civilians.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:09 pm

Terrible. They're imprecise weapons of mass destruction. There's no point to them except to make war bloodier.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:10 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:Agreed. Damn you Nazi and American Scientists..


And British, Russian, French, Chinese, South African... :p

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Postby Mozambicar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:11 pm

It depends completely on who has them. Nuclear weapons are good if used just as a deterrent of war or self defense. However if it is in the wrong hands, they can be used to massacre people, destroy cities, and wreck countries.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:12 pm

Great. Nuclear states don't go to war with one another (or with one another's allies).

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Postby Salvostella » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:13 pm

Good and bad are subjective terms.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:13 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Terrible. They're imprecise weapons of mass destruction. There's no point to them except to make war bloodier.


Actually, Morden MIRVs are extremely accurate, to within a few metres.
And there don't make war bloodier, the opposite since there's no blood left. :p
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:14 pm

Mozambicar wrote:It depends completely on who has them. Nuclear weapons are good if used just as a deterrent of war or self defense. However if it is in the wrong hands, they can be used to massacre people, destroy cities, and wreck countries.

If you were Kim-Jong Un, and wanted to blow up Seoul, would you do it in the knowledge your whole nation would probably be a pile of dust in a matter of minutes (Thanks to some Western nation)? With MAD, stuff like that shouldn't really be abused..
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Postby Yugo-Austria » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:15 pm

They're great!
They uh, kill lots of people.
That's great!
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Postby Greater Germania Reich » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:16 pm

Bad. If conventional warfare could still take place between rival nations could still take place the world would be a much better place. Our current way of waging wars is basically nothing but cold war era internal demoralization and political takeover of political parties and the state, and what's worse is that it's hard for the people themselves to even realize it's happening before it's too late.
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Postby Vathya » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:17 pm

Nuclear weapons are bad and here are my reasons why.

1. It's kill everybody including citizens

2. If a nuclear war happens it will cause a nuclear winter making everything become extinct.

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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:17 pm

Greater Germania Reich wrote:If conventional warfare could still take place between rival nations could still take place the world would be a much better place.

By what metric? Or do you enjoy watching people die?

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Postby Yugo-Austria » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:18 pm

Vathya wrote:Nuclear weapons are bad and here are my reasons why.

1. It's kill everybody including citizens

2. If a nuclear war happens it will cause a nuclear winter making everything become extinct.

What.
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Postby Mozambicar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:19 pm

Indo-Malaysia wrote:
Mozambicar wrote:It depends completely on who has them. Nuclear weapons are good if used just as a deterrent of war or self defense. However if it is in the wrong hands, they can be used to massacre people, destroy cities, and wreck countries.

If you were Kim-Jong Un, and wanted to blow up Seoul, would you do it in the knowledge your whole nation would probably be a pile of dust in a matter of minutes (Thanks to some Western nation)? With MAD, stuff like that shouldn't really be abused..

Exactly what I mean. The western countries use them as self defense. If North Korea nuked Seoul, they would be destroyed by the USA. But if the USA, say, didn't exist (I know, not having the USA changes everything, but let's set reality aside for a second.) then North Korea would destroy Japan and South Korea. Just like if Nazi Germany got a hold of nuclear weapons. They would nuke the USSR, Britain, and America.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:23 pm

Mozambicar wrote:
Indo-Malaysia wrote:If you were Kim-Jong Un, and wanted to blow up Seoul, would you do it in the knowledge your whole nation would probably be a pile of dust in a matter of minutes (Thanks to some Western nation)? With MAD, stuff like that shouldn't really be abused..

Exactly what I mean. The western countries use them as self defense. If North Korea nuked Seoul, they would be destroyed by the USA. But if the USA, say, didn't exist (I know, not having the USA changes everything, but let's set reality aside for a second.) then North Korea would destroy Japan and South Korea. Just like if Nazi Germany got a hold of nuclear weapons. They would nuke the USSR, Britain, and America.

Fair Enough. Just remember, Trident hasn't rotted away though
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Postby The Untied Federation of Russia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:23 pm

Bad....

Nuclear Weapons will be humanity's downfall.
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Postby Vathya » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:24 pm

Yugo-Austria wrote:
Vathya wrote:Nuclear weapons are bad and here are my reasons why.

1. It's kill everybody including citizens

2. If a nuclear war happens it will cause a nuclear winter making everything become extinct.

What.


Was there something confusing about my opinion?

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Postby Godular » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:25 pm

Neither. They are inanimate objects.
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Postby Mozambicar » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:25 pm

Greater Germania Reich wrote:Bad. If conventional warfare could still take place between rival nations could still take place the world would be a much better place. Our current way of waging wars is basically nothing but cold war era internal demoralization and political takeover of political parties and the state, and what's worse is that it's hard for the people themselves to even realize it's happening before it's too late.

But then again, conventional warfare takes so much more lives than a nuke, and our new way of waging war effectively keeps many wars from happening between major countries.

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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:26 pm

Godular wrote:Neither. They are inanimate objects.

So are its victims.. :twisted:
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