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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:38 am

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Anonymous email threatens students at Berkeley school after Sacramento rally tied to local teacher

Local and federal authorities investigated threats Monday targeting youth at a North Berkeley middle school by a group that demanded the termination of a teacher who protested against a neo-Nazi rally in Sacramento over the weekend.

The rally Sunday made national headlines due to violent clashes between the white supremacists who took out a permit to rally at the state capitol and the counter-protesters who showed up to confront them. According to some news reports, members of the counter-protest appear to have initiated the violence. The LA Times reported that seven people were stabbed and 10 hospitalized.

One of the people who took responsibility for helping organize the counter-protest was Yvette Felarca, a teacher at North Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Jr. Middle School, at 1781 Rose St. Felarca is an organizer with the activist group By Any Means Necessary, which helped lead a series of Black Lives Matter protests in Berkeley in December 2014.

Parents of day campers were told Monday morning that one of the counter-protesters from Sacramento had been linked to the Berkeley school where the camps were located. The public outing had prompted an influx of emails to the principal demanding that the teacher be fired.

The Berkeley Unified School District confirmed, in a prepared statement at 5:40 p.m., it had been informed Monday morning that a King teacher had been involved with the protest in Sacramento.

“Since that incident, the school and principal have received calls and emails from parents and community members. One anonymous email in particular threatened that if certain actions were not taken against the teacher within the week, someone would come to King with the intent to harm students,” according to the statement. “The FBI has reviewed the email in question and has determined that by their criteria it should be considered a low level threat.”

The statement continued: “Meanwhile, the Berkeley PD has said that they are taking this threat seriously. They have increased their patrols around our schools and are assigning an officer to King. We have sent security staff to King, and we have moved two outside user groups who are renting space for summer programs to other locations. We do not have any BUSD programs at King at this time.”

BUSD Superintendent Donald Evans said, according to the statement, that the district would do “whatever is necessary” to protect students and staff, and “continue to work closely with law enforcement to monitor this situation.”

Someone using the name Ann Smith has been criticizing Felarca on Twitter as part of the campaign to have the Berkeley teacher fired.

One parent told Berkeleyside he had been told by a camp leader that individuals tied to the right-wing group “involved in the brawl at the state capitol yesterday figured out that one of the counter protesters was a teacher at King. They then flooded the principal with e-mails demanding that the teacher be fired, and there was at least one credible threat of violence (a shooting) at the campus if the demand was not met. Police and security were on site at King, our camp had been offered indoor space at the school, and the district is looking for alternate sites.”

Another parent told Berkeleyside on Monday morning that “all the kids are to be moved inside because a King teacher was involved in yesterday’s protest in Sacramento and was subsequently threatened. Someone evidently claimed they were going to shoot up King because of the teacher’s participation in the Neo Nazi counter-protest.”

An unattended Berkeley Police cruiser was parked outside the school Monday afternoon. The Berkeley Police Department and school principal referred Berkeleyside to the Berkeley Unified School District for comment.

Some of the comments Felarca made to the media Sunday were posted online. (See one of those videos below.) It was unclear as of publication time exactly how she had been linked to the Berkeley middle school.

Reached by phone Monday, Felarca said the threats were outrageous. But she said they were evidence of the true character of the individuals and groups making them.

“I am disgusted and condemn these attacks on myself and the children, the faculty and staff at my school,” she said. “I hold Donald Trump responsible for this. His politics of racist demagoguery and hate is inciting these vile threats of violence, even against children. It exposes why Trump and his racist, Nazi, and KKK supporters need to be defeated — and it shows us what Donald Trump’s vision for America really is.”

Teachers and students are now on summer break. The last day of the semester was Friday, June 17.


Whether you agree with Felarca's politics or where she puts the blame, or even if you think she should be fired, I think this is serious proof that the false equivalence between violent Antifascists and the fascists themselves doesn't hold up. It's really a new low for Nazi scumbags to start threatening schools, but that's the kind of people we're dealing with when we talk about neo-Nazism in America. But, please, tell me liberals about how Antifa is "just as bad" as the Traditionalist Workers' Party, and all those middle school students Antifa threatened. :roll:

As for her job, that's the school's decision.

Should Felarca lose her job? Are antifascists as bad as the Nazis they fight? Should Nazi punks fuck off? What say you, NSG?

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Postby Ganonsyoni » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:45 am

Violence has always been the agenda of fascists and children aren't off their hit lists.
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Postby UnjustlyBannedLlamas » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:47 am

The teacher shouldn't lose her job unless it can be proven she was involved in the violence.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:56 am

Movies have taught me that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Presumably this includes American schools.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:00 am

Yes she should lose her job for her violent actions at the protest. In fact she should be prosecuted and jailed for her violent activities.

That said.

The folks who threatened the school should be tracked down and jailed as well.

Violence has no place in American politics. It would be a disaster for thr country if it became matter of course,.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:01 am

Ifreann wrote:Movies have taught me that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Presumably this includes American schools.

That's a common mistranslation. In international English, it's "We don't negotiate with brown people".

We love capitulating to white terrorists.
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Postby Kazarogkai » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:12 am

As long as a teacher doesn't drag their politics, whatever they may be, into the classroom what they do off campus is there business. Personally I consider it a matter of professional conduct, a teacher shouldn't impose their personal/political views on their students or make them feel pressured in any way by them. They should in general be officially neutral and accepting of all in such matters during classroom hours. Outside of blatant criminal matters though it is of no concern of the school what said teacher does on their own time. I have a similar view on schools and their students. What the student does after school and off campus is exclusively the business of said student's parents and relevant authorities(police) and not the school.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:12 am

Ethel mermania wrote:Yes she should lose her job for her violent actions at the protest. In fact she should be prosecuted and jailed for her violent activities.

Got proof she committed any act of violence, or do you enjoy firing people just on a generic suspect of collective responsibility without any trial of any sort?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:25 am

Risottia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Yes she should lose her job for her violent actions at the protest. In fact she should be prosecuted and jailed for her violent activities.

Got proof she committed any act of violence, or do you enjoy firing people just on a generic suspect of collective responsibility without any trial of any sort?


Really? I expect better out of you.

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In the header she owns up to it. Planned and committed.

"Yvette Felarca, from the activist group By Any Means Necessary in Oakland, says their violent reaction to a white supremacist rally at the California Capitol Sunday will help prevent violence against immigrant communities by dissuading other supremacist groups from holding events."
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Postby Nationes Pii Redivivi » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:29 am

Is there any proof that the teacher did something illegal or that anything else is going on beside the dissatisfaction of certain groups of people against a particular teacher for no other reason than having a set of political views (there is no proof, I don't think, and she is using her position as a pulpit)?

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:43 am

UnjustlyBannedLlamas wrote:The teacher shouldn't lose her job unless it can be proven she was involved in the violence.

Pretty much this. If she's owned up the participating in/planning/engaging in the violence, then fuck yes, we don't need a violent criminal in the classroom. If all she's doing is praising the results of the violence, but otherwise was not responsible for it, then that's really up to the school to review and deal with.

In either case, threatening to harm anybody, much less attack a school over it is wildly inappropriate and I hope they find and throw the book at those responsible.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:41 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Risottia wrote:Got proof she committed any act of violence, or do you enjoy firing people just on a generic suspect of collective responsibility without any trial of any sort?


Really? I expect better out of you.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/ ... 32312.html

In the header she owns up to it. Planned and committed.

"Yvette Felarca, from the activist group By Any Means Necessary in Oakland, says their violent reaction to a white supremacist rally at the California Capitol Sunday will help prevent violence against immigrant communities by dissuading other supremacist groups from holding events."


Fair enough: if that is confirmed in a trial (which means a conviction), that's proof enough to fire her. Until that, it's not. Reason enough to suspend her from her job would be her being charged formally.
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Postby Guy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:43 pm

Commission of a criminal offence by its own is almost never grounds for dismissal. It has to have a direct link to the employee's ability to effectively perform their duties.

As far as I'm concerned, beating up Nazis makes you more qualified.
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Guy wrote:Commission of a criminal offence by its own is almost never grounds for dismissal. It has to have a direct link to the employee's ability to effectively perform their duties.

As far as I'm concerned, beating up Nazis makes you more qualified.

"Beating up Nazis makes you as bad as them!" /s

Looks like people forgot about world war 2.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:47 pm

Guy wrote:Commission of a criminal offence by its own is almost never grounds for dismissal. It has to have a direct link to the employee's ability to effectively perform their duties.

As far as I'm concerned, beating up Nazis makes you more qualified.


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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:49 pm

Shit man, if my teacher punched a nazi Id want them to stay on even more.

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Postby Gutansland » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:52 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Movies have taught me that the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Presumably this includes American schools.

That's a common mistranslation. In international English, it's "We don't negotiate with brown people".

We love capitulating to white terrorists.

Unless they're Russian.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:55 pm

Guy wrote:Commission of a criminal offence by its own is almost never grounds for dismissal. It has to have a direct link to the employee's ability to effectively perform their duties.

One of the primary duties of a teacher (and I speak as one) is teaching the students, through word and EXAMPLE, how a citizen should behave. Planning and committing violence against an opposing political rally most surely isn't how a citizen should behave.

As far as I'm concerned, beating up Nazis makes you more qualified.

As much as I despise Nazis, until they START the violence, beating them up disqualifies anyone from teaching to future citizens.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:56 pm

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Guy wrote:Commission of a criminal offence by its own is almost never grounds for dismissal. It has to have a direct link to the employee's ability to effectively perform their duties.

As far as I'm concerned, beating up Nazis makes you more qualified.

"Beating up Nazis makes you as bad as them!" /s

Looks like people forgot about world war 2.

Looks like someone forgot WHY there was a World War 2. Not because they were Nazis. Because they ATTACKED.
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Postby The Coalition of the Magical unicorns » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:59 pm

Violence should never be supported- And I don't care who got beat up. If you can justify violent actions against someone because he is Nazi, you may as well justify it against everyone else who thinks different from you. And I no, I have no love for the Nazi ideology, but beating someone up just because he is neo-nazi? Nope, jail them instead.

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Postby Guy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:09 pm

The Coalition of the Magical unicorns wrote:Violence should never be supported- And I don't care who got beat up. If you can justify violent actions against someone because he is Nazi, you may as well justify it against everyone else who thinks different from you. And I no, I have no love for the Nazi ideology, but beating someone up just because he is neo-nazi? Nope, jail them instead.

I agree, jailing Neo-Nazis would be a lot easier. The state isn't cooperating, and while I don't think that violence is the correct answer, I cannot fault those who do.
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Postby Shofercia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:10 pm

Risottia wrote:Fair enough: if that is confirmed in a trial (which means a conviction), that's proof enough to fire her. Until that, it's not. Reason enough to suspend her from her job would be her being charged formally.


I agree with this assessment. A teacher shouldn't put her students at risk because she wants some people to be beaten up. Now if she was an MMA fighter... :P
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The Coalition of the Magical unicorns wrote:Violence should never be supported- And I don't care who got beat up. If you can justify violent actions against someone because he is Nazi, you may as well justify it against everyone else who thinks different from you. And I no, I have no love for the Nazi ideology, but beating someone up just because he is neo-nazi? Nope, jail them instead.

I agree, jailing Neo-Nazis would be a lot easier. The state isn't cooperating, and while I don't think that violence is the correct answer, I cannot fault those who do.

I would fault the local legislation for allowing the rally to happen and start pushing for a change.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:11 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Fair enough: if that is confirmed in a trial (which means a conviction), that's proof enough to fire her. Until that, it's not. Reason enough to suspend her from her job would be her being charged formally.


I agree with this assessment. A teacher shouldn't put her students at risk because she wants some people to be beaten up. Now if she was an MMA fighter... :P


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Postby Grande Republic of Arcadia » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:11 pm

Ganonsyoni wrote:Violence has always been the agenda of fascists and children aren't off their hit lists.

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