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by Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:35 am
by Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:39 am
by Valaran » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:40 am
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Ralkovian Grand Island » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:42 am
Vassenor wrote:And really my fear is this: What happens when it stops being motivated just by race or nationality. What happens when these [EXPLETIVE REDACTED]s decide to go after anyone who doesn't fit their stereotype of "English"?
Old Tyrannia wrote:You've never met Ralk before, have you? Ralk doesn't have friends.
He only respects the strong, and preys on the weak.
He might act polite and smile all the time, but always remember...
The day will come when you'll wake up to find him looming over your bed,
knife in hand, and he'll still be smiling.
by Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:43 am
Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:Vassenor wrote:And really my fear is this: What happens when it stops being motivated just by race or nationality. What happens when these [EXPLETIVE REDACTED]s decide to go after anyone who doesn't fit their stereotype of "English"?
A great many boxes of tea will be thrown into the London Harbor and the Queen shall reclaim her glorious place on the Throne.
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:46 am
Ifreann wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
The welfare state is shit in the first place compared to the solution I offered, especially when you consider the studies on long term unemployment, and that as we've seen, it's demonstrably unstable due to resentment.
In order to even get them to be open to the idea they are factually wrong, you have to deal with the feeling first. All that study shows in effect is how intensely they feel about it. You're asking them to guess, they don't know, they just know it happens.
I'm a little surprised that you want to address people's feelings rather than the factual reality of the situation.
by Terruana » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:56 am
by Souseiseki » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:57 am
by Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:58 am
Souseiseki wrote:Just hearing from Boris Johnson, who reacts to George Osborne's statement this morning.
The Leave campaigner says: "It's clear that Project Fear is over, there's not going to be an emergency Budget, people's pensions are safe, the pound is stable, the markets are stable."
"I think that's all very good news."
https://dwq4do82y8xi7.cloudfront.net/x/tG7lXYVF/
by Valaran » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:01 am
Terruana wrote: -snip-
Souseiseki wrote:Just hearing from Boris Johnson, who reacts to George Osborne's statement this morning.
Valaran wrote:It was on TV so I don't have a link just yet but:
"It is clear now that Project Fear is over" - Boris Johnson
He then lists pensions being safe (uh, no)
Markets stabilised (they fell again, but not by as much)
No Emergency Budget (true)
Says "Absolutely" when asked about whether we will have access to the Free Market, while getting into a car.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Arkolon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:26 am
by Valaran » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:31 am
Arkolon wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36644211
Just when you thought the "full agreement" Hollande and Renzi had between themselves and Merkel was to be more lenient.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:31 am
TVP Info said the proposals would mean members of a superstate would in practice have no right to their own army, to a separate criminal code or a separate tax system, and would not have their own currency.
In addition, TVP Info said, member states would lose control over their own borders and procedures for admitting and relocating refugees.
by Arkolon » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:34 am
by Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:56 am
by Mefpan » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:59 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:OH BOY!
http://thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/258994,N ... any-report
This is going to be great.
So the EU leadership has basically decided to flip it's shit completely over brexit, and is now saying
'We're taking away more powers from the rest of the members in response to this, and will begin centralizing into a european superstate imminently.'TVP Info said the proposals would mean members of a superstate would in practice have no right to their own army, to a separate criminal code or a separate tax system, and would not have their own currency.
In addition, TVP Info said, member states would lose control over their own borders and procedures for admitting and relocating refugees.
Good way to unite most of the country behind brexit tbh, unless we decide to meekly acquiese and agree to join this new superstate.
We really were the only thing holding these guys back.
So, place your bets, united europe by 2020, or it explodes in spectacular fashion as hysteria over the proposals torpedo it?
by Souseiseki » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:15 am
by The Blaatschapen » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:20 am
Arkolon wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36644211
Just when you thought the "full agreement" Hollande and Renzi had between themselves and Merkel was to be more lenient.
by The Alma Mater » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:27 am
by Vassenor » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:28 am
by American Imperial State » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:32 am
by Souseiseki » Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:40 am
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