Gorilla pays heavy price for human irresponsibility

[Esternial]

Recently saw something about a dude wanting to commit suicide by jumping in the lion enclosure.

The lions were all shot to save the daft tit's life.

[Digital Planets]

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The only thing missing in this gif is some good music.

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[Indian Empire]

Living across the river from Cincinnati myself, the Cincinnati Zoo is virtually my backyard. I'd say it's more than just the parent's fault. I'd say it's also the Zoo's fault for not doing something quick enough. If the Zoo did something about a minute earlier, they would have been able to safely tranquilize the gorilla and get the child out.

[Digital Planets]

Recently saw something about a dude wanting to commit suicide by jumping in the lion enclosure.

The lions were all shot to save the daft tit's life.

They couldn't like, you know, just tell him to fuck off to Syria if he wants to die?

[Xadufell]

I actually feel sorry for the gorilla in this situation.

A. Why didn't they just tranqulize it? I'm sure the zoo would've had powerful enough tranqs?
B. Looking at the video, I see that it wasn't a "Brutal attack" as the gorilla didn't really attack the child, it even seemed to be guarding it at one point.
C. I feel like this was at points the zoo's fault and the mother's fault. The zoo because they didn't have good enough enclosures to keep people from falling in, especially children. The mother because why the hell wouldn't you be keeping your kid closest?
It's all a mess to me.

[Giovenith]

I actually feel sorry for the gorilla in this situation.

A. Why didn't they just tranqulize it? I'm sure the zoo would've had powerful enough tranqs?
B. Looking at the video, I see that it wasn't a "Brutal attack" as the gorilla didn't really attack the child, it even seemed to be guarding it at one point.
C. I feel like this was at points the zoo's fault and the mother's fault. The zoo because they didn't have good enough enclosures to keep people from falling in, especially children. The mother because why the hell wouldn't you be keeping your kid closest?
It's all a mess to me.

As people have repeatedly stated:

1) Tranquilizer does not knock things out immediately upon contact. It can take several minutes for it to take effect.
2) Before it does take effect, the sudden pain from being struck by a needle out of nowhere could have easily sent the gorilla into a rage and made him lash out at the child.
3) If it did start to take effect around a point when he was still hovering over the child, the gorilla could have passed out on top of the kid and suffocated him.

[Indian Empire]

I actually feel sorry for the gorilla in this situation.

A. Why didn't they just tranqulize it? I'm sure the zoo would've had powerful enough tranqs?
B. Looking at the video, I see that it wasn't a "Brutal attack" as the gorilla didn't really attack the child, it even seemed to be guarding it at one point.
C. I feel like this was at points the zoo's fault and the mother's fault. The zoo because they didn't have good enough enclosures to keep people from falling in, especially children. The mother because why the hell wouldn't you be keeping your kid closest?
It's all a mess to me.

It wasn't a good idea to kill it, but it was also irresponsible parenting to turn there back on the child.

[Farnhamia]

I actually feel sorry for the gorilla in this situation.

A. Why didn't they just tranqulize it? I'm sure the zoo would've had powerful enough tranqs?
B. Looking at the video, I see that it wasn't a "Brutal attack" as the gorilla didn't really attack the child, it even seemed to be guarding it at one point.
C. I feel like this was at points the zoo's fault and the mother's fault. The zoo because they didn't have good enough enclosures to keep people from falling in, especially children. The mother because why the hell wouldn't you be keeping your kid closest?
It's all a mess to me.

The zoo officials said that the tranquillizers would have taken too long to take effect and that the increasingly woozy gorilla might have injured the child. They did not have the time to take the risk. Believe me, it was not done lightly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/30/us/go ... i-zoo.html

[United Marxist Nations]

I actually feel sorry for the gorilla in this situation.

A. Why didn't they just tranqulize it? I'm sure the zoo would've had powerful enough tranqs?
B. Looking at the video, I see that it wasn't a "Brutal attack" as the gorilla didn't really attack the child, it even seemed to be guarding it at one point.
C. I feel like this was at points the zoo's fault and the mother's fault. The zoo because they didn't have good enough enclosures to keep people from falling in, especially children. The mother because why the hell wouldn't you be keeping your kid closest?
It's all a mess to me.

The zoo officials said that the tranquillizers would have taken too long to take effect and that the increasingly woozy gorilla might have injured the child. They did not have the time to take the risk. Believe me, it was not done lightly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/30/us/go ... i-zoo.html

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

[Digital Planets]

The zoo officials said that the tranquillizers would have taken too long to take effect and that the increasingly woozy gorilla might have injured the child. They did not have the time to take the risk. Believe me, it was not done lightly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/30/us/go ... i-zoo.html

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

Maybe it wanted make the child one of it's own, like that one kid who was raised by wolves?

[Imperializt Russia]

The zoo officials said that the tranquillizers would have taken too long to take effect and that the increasingly woozy gorilla might have injured the child. They did not have the time to take the risk. Believe me, it was not done lightly.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/30/us/go ... i-zoo.html

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

From the footage I saw (short clip that it was), that wasn't how it appeared to me.

[Cerillium]

So, about those parents...


Based on my own anecdotes, yes, I do think that the latest generations of parents demonstrate a lot more irresponsibility and slack. Obviously there will always be good parents and bad parents, and I'm not some hardcore-parenting advocate who thinks that kids need to be spanked and address their fathers as "sir" and all that nonsense, but my mother has been a teacher in the same district for about 16 years now, and yeah, she has definitely seen a steady decline in parenting abilities. As she puts it, the newer generations of parents are more likely to stand back in the halls texting constantly on their phones while their child immediately runs in and starts screaming, snatching toys away from other kids, disrespecting the teachers, etc. without much more than a bunch of half-hearted, "Stop that"'s and nothing else - then flip around and get extremely insulted when the teachers actually bother to stop in and properly put a stop to the child's bad behavior. It's gotten to the point of danger too, such as when the teachers discovered that almost none of the students in the class had been taught that kids shouldn't touch knives or take pills (most of them are 3 or 4 years), and when telling this to the parents, said parents explained how they had just expected their child to know this as "common sense" without it ever being explained to them - as if kids are just born with all the common knowledge of adults.

My own experiences, however few, confirm this. A lot of parents these days seem to think that children acting out is "cute," to the point where I've seen them smiling and nodding on in approval over their 11 year olds literally screaming Taylor Swift songs at the top of their lungs while waiting in the middle of amusement park ride lines surrounded by clearly annoyed patrons. They're also less prone to watching, as with the case of these parents, and I often see the kids doing things like stupidly running in front of other children swinging on the swings and nearly getting their faces kicked in without the parents so much as budging from their spot on the bench. The few times the kid actually did get kicked by the swinger, the parent see's this, gets up, marches over - and yells at the kid on the swing. On rarer occasions, I've even seen children outright march up to strangers and start calling them "ugly bitches" and attempting to hit them with the parents doing nothing until, yet again, when someone else actually bothers to put their own kid back in life, at which point they become offended at someone daring to tell their kid what to do.


I don't want to judge the parents of the zoo incident outright because hey, shit happens even at your very most careful, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they were part of this newer lazy parenting generation where the philosophy is, "My kid can do whatever they want, and if they get in trouble, it's the world's fault for not making itself safer."

This reminds me of an article I read not too long ago.

http://www.macleans.ca/society/the-collapse-of-parenting-why-its-time-for-parents-to-grow-up/

Parents in North America have become prone to asking their children rather than telling them. “It’s natural,” says Gordon Neufeld, a prominent Vancouver psychologist cited in Sax’s book. “Intuitively, we know that if we’re coercive, we’re going to get resistance.” For trivial choices such as which colour of pants to wear, this approach is fine, he says. But “when we consult our children about issues that symbolize nurturance like food, we put them in the lead.” That triggers an innate psychological response, and their survival instincts activate: “They don’t feel taken care of and they start taking the alpha role.”

Reminds me of this little alpha brat who was always at the park whenever I took my daughter there. Mom texted as he ran around punching all the other boys. He thew a tantrum when it was time to go. Every time, unfailing. She stood there as his fists pummeled her thighs hard enough to be heard across the playground, and she tried to reason with him in a polite voice. "Josh, why are you hitting mommy? You shouldn't hit mommy. Please stop hitting me." She grew angry if any parent offered advice to her.

[Salus Maior]

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

Maybe it wanted make the child one of it's own, like that one kid who was raised by wolves?

It was still throwing around and roughing up a child. Look, they didn't have a choice.

[United Marxist Nations]

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

From the footage I saw (short clip that it was), that wasn't how it appeared to me.

I was writing that more in response to the guy who said the Gorilla didn't look that aggressive (I forget who it was), sine I assumed that is partly what Farn was writing in reply to. What footage did you see and what did it look like to you? The footage I saw had it dragging the kid around by his leg, which seems really dangerous.

[Imperializt Russia]

From the footage I saw (short clip that it was), that wasn't how it appeared to me.

I was writing that more in response to the guy who said the Gorilla didn't look that aggressive (I forget who it was), sine I assumed that is partly what Farn was writing in reply to. What footage did you see and what did it look like to you? The footage I saw had it dragging the kid around by his leg, which seems really dangerous.

The gorilla dragged the boy from a deep section of the moat where he fell to the shallower water by the shore, then appeared to stroke the child to calm it, since I assume the child was not happy and probably crying.

At a glance? Not aggressive. Obviously strong enough to do accidental damage, it's a gorilla with a four year old.

[United Marxist Nations]

I was writing that more in response to the guy who said the Gorilla didn't look that aggressive (I forget who it was), sine I assumed that is partly what Farn was writing in reply to. What footage did you see and what did it look like to you? The footage I saw had it dragging the kid around by his leg, which seems really dangerous.

The gorilla dragged the boy from a deep section of the moat where he fell to the shallower water by the shore, then appeared to stroke the child to calm it, since I assume the child was not happy and probably crying.

At a glance? Not aggressive. Obviously strong enough to do accidental damage, it's a gorilla with a four year old.

I did see it in a bit of protective posture, but, like I said, in video I have seen, it drags the kid around like a rag doll. Not sure if it was intending to be aggressive, but definitely still dangerous, as you said.

[Digital Planets]

Maybe it wanted make the child one of it's own, like that one kid who was raised by wolves?

It was still throwing around and roughing up a child. Look, they didn't have a choice.

Maybe it was part of the domestication process?

[Giovenith]

I would also like to point that, even if it didn't really mean to, the Gorilla was roughing up the child badly. We could say that perhaps it just didn't know its own strength, but still, very dangerous and had to be stopped.

Maybe it wanted make the child one of it's own, like that one kid who was raised by wolves?

TWO WORLDS
ONE FAMILY

[Barboneia]

Poor gorilla, I guess.

[The first Galactic Republic]

What is the child guilty of? Being a child and making a mistake? Is that worth killing him over?

What is the gorilla guilty of? Acting on its nature to attack perceived threats to it? Is that worth killing it over? I think not.

We should obviously hold these kinds of discussions while a child is being torn limb from limb.

I don't think you're understanding the situation.

[Minzerland]

Don't be such a sillypants.

What's silly about it? Surely no-one can deny the poisonous and corrosive influence that humans have on the world? Surely no-one can deny just how much damage and destruction we cause, to each other, to other animals, to the environment, to the world?

W-well, well cows cause global-warming, checkmate atheist.

[Gurori]

They could have tranquilized the Gorilla but NO, they had to make it eat lead.

Ironic how zoos intend on helping save rare creatures, this one did the opposite.

[The Texan Union]

That poor gorilla. Yet another innocent soul mindlessly killed just to benefit unworthy humanity. We truly are the worst thing to have ever happened to this planet, we really are.

Do animals have souls?

[Gurori]

That poor gorilla. Yet another innocent soul mindlessly killed just to benefit unworthy humanity. We truly are the worst thing to have ever happened to this planet, we really are.

Do animals have souls?

Humans are animals, so animals have souls.

[New haven america]

Kinda looks like it was trying to help the kid...