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Eleven States Sue Obama Administration Over Transgender Bathroom Policy

So it seems that eleven states are suing the federal government over directives calling for transgender students to be allowed to use the bathroom that matches their identity. Apparently the whole thing is “a massive social experiment” running roughshod over “common-sense policies” (let's ignore the fact that's a pretty big case of appeal to tradition, but yeah).

Personally, I think this is just getting stupid. I mean, why are people seriously this desperate to hold onto the ability to discriminate against others?

Is anyone actually surprised? There are always many people who oppose the path forward.

This really puffles my jigglies.

Seriously, what kind of people care about this "issue" so much. Just let people go to the damn bathroom in peace.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Seriously, what kind of people care about this "issue" so much. Just let people go to the damn bathroom in peace.

That what we want to happen my friend, people oppose simple equality :/

Vassenor wrote:Eleven States Sue Obama Administration Over Transgender Bathroom Policy

So it seems that eleven states are suing the federal government over directives calling for transgender students to be allowed to use the bathroom that matches their identity. Apparently the whole thing is “a massive social experiment” running roughshod over “common-sense policies” (let's ignore the fact that's a pretty big case of appeal to tradition, but yeah).

Personally, I think this is just getting stupid. I mean, why are people seriously this desperate to hold onto the ability to discriminate against others?

Well how else are they meant to get elected? Every day that passes is a day that legal gay marriage didn't cause the sky to fall on the US, so they can't use that any more. Obamacare hasn't turned the US into the USSR. Trump has dibs on immigration fearmongering.

Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Val Halla wrote:Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Shhhh dont use facts on the republican states. It scares them

Val Halla wrote:Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Only when Obama does it.

Ifreann wrote:

Val Halla wrote:Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Only when Obama does it.

We cant let that kenyan use the constitution on us, it only applies when us proper white folk use it.

According the ACLU, the states lack standing for the suit in accordance with previous supreme court rulings.

House of Judah wrote:According the ACLU, the states lack standing for the suit in accordance with previous supreme court rulings.

Pfft, the ACLU, what would they know?

Acarn wrote:

Val Halla wrote:Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Shhhh dont use facts on the republican states. It scares them

Not even all of them did it because they know it's dumb

Ifreann wrote:

Val Halla wrote:Apparently the constitution is unconstitutional.

Only when Obama does it.

Obama is apparently a tyrant for doing his job, because he uses executive orders, which he's done a lot less than other presidents.

I assume it is no coincidence that it is almost a list of the confederate states.

They really have nothing better to do than cry to the government about something that has literally zero effect on them whatsoever.

Michike wrote:They really have nothing better to do than cry to the government about something that has literally zero effect on them whatsoever.

But what about the children that are being sexually assaulted by trans people in their imaginations? How dare you not think about those imaginary children!

Why do so many NSG threads immediately devolve to smug self-assurance of one's own stance's inherent superiority?

It's not even discussion.

Louisiana, why you so stubborn? Last to be occupied by Union forces because of your refusal to comply, last to outlaw cockfighting, I guess old habits die hard.

But I guess they can't fight the constitution. Gay rights is a gray area, mostly because the constitution makes no mention of it because anyone not straight was killed like witches back in those days. But the Supreme Court kinda rules in favor of the LGBT community as does the executive branch so there's really not much we can do.

Ranko Kanzaki wrote:Why do so many NSG threads immediately devolve to smug self-assurance of one's own stance's inherent superiority?

It's not even discussion.

It's either that or screaming matches. Which do you want?

Ranko Kanzaki wrote:Why do so many NSG threads immediately devolve to smug self-assurance of one's own stance's inherent superiority?

It's not even discussion.

Well that would take someone putting up a counter argument, rather than you know just accusing people of smugness.

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:

Michike wrote:They really have nothing better to do than cry to the government about something that has literally zero effect on them whatsoever.

But what about the children that are being sexually assaulted by trans people in their imaginations? How dare you not think about those imaginary children!

Nothing a bit of electroshock therapy can't fix.

House of Judah wrote:

Ranko Kanzaki wrote:Why do so many NSG threads immediately devolve to smug self-assurance of one's own stance's inherent superiority?

It's not even discussion.

It's either that or screaming matches. Which do you want?

The screaming matches at least offer perspective on the issue.

Frank Zipper wrote:

Ranko Kanzaki wrote:Why do so many NSG threads immediately devolve to smug self-assurance of one's own stance's inherent superiority?

It's not even discussion.

Well that would take someone putting up a counter argument, rather than you know just accusing people of smugness.

I have no stance on the issue. I came here to learn about the varying perspectives so that I might form one. However, there were none. An argument is required for a counter argument to be presented, and varying ways of saying "lol republicans" or whatnot are not arguments.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Seriously, what kind of people care about this "issue" so much. Just let people go to the damn bathroom in peace.

They have to work off their legislative tension.

I don't think we need to really create a comprehensive policy on bathroom etiquette; however, I also think the federal directive is just as silly. It just seems to be a petty argument over whether bathroom use should be based on biological sex or psychological gender.

Ugh. Why is it they so desperately want to oppress others?

Can I point out that this is due to the fact that the policy was forced down by executive fiat and that's why the states are suing?