Necessitating Violence

[Traditionalism]

You people are so simple.

Soviets lost a fuck ton of men trying to fight off the Germans. Soviets were fucking wiped around the floor

Yeah, the Soviets were wiped all over the floor like a rag.

It was the only way to get the pseudo-aryan SStains out of European soil. And they got them out pretty well, given the thousand year Reich's currently continued prolonged nonexistence.

Yeah, thank God the Germans lost the war. Now europe can enjoy muslim rape and invasion.

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

Yeah, the Soviets were wiped all over the floor like a rag.

It was the only way to get the pseudo-aryan SStains out of European soil. And they got them out pretty well, given the thousand year Reich's currently continued prolonged nonexistence.

Yeah, thank God the Germans lost the war. Now europe can enjoy muslim rape and invasion.

And we have to deal with the Jews. Thanks Obama.

[Valaran]

You can dress up how you want, but the Germans didn't kill enough to win, did they? They lost, and badly.

Its sort of cute trying to watch you claim the fascists succeeded becuase 'they killed people', however.

Never said they succeeded. You need to pay more attention to what you type. You said they were minced, quite the opposite, they fucking destroyed the bolsheviks. Doesn't matter who won. Bolsheviks lost over 10 million while germans lost just under 5 million. It's clear who was minced, regardless of who won the war, which wouldn't have been possible without the lend lease program.

I must admit, I've never seen someone try to be edgy with historical facts before. Most amusing.

Losing the war = winning it, you heard it here first, folks! Trust the cosmic order and it will blind you from that nasty thing known as reality!

[Traditionalism]

Uh, they still lost a ton more men than the Germans did.

This is an excellent debate and I hate to intrude, but your comparison of your traditionalist militia to the Nazis is not helping your cause.

I don't have any militia, and we're not traditionalists, we're Fascists. And I'm not making the comparison, someone else did, saying "worked real well the first time"

Stop taking things out of context and embarrassing yourself.

[Conserative Morality]

Uh, they still lost a ton more men than the Germans did.

Death or glory. Those Soviet armies raised the red flag above Berlin. Stop being such a materialist. Physical losses are not what matters.

[Traditionalism]

Never said they succeeded. You need to pay more attention to what you type. You said they were minced, quite the opposite, they fucking destroyed the bolsheviks. Doesn't matter who won. Bolsheviks lost over 10 million while germans lost just under 5 million. It's clear who was minced, regardless of who won the war, which wouldn't have been possible without the lend lease program.

I must admit, I've never seen someone try to be edgy with historical facts before. Most amusing.

Losing the war = winning it, you heard it here first, folks! Trust the cosmic order and it will blind you from that nasty thing known as reality!

Literally just said I never claimed they won, wow, way to prove you're not actually reading anything.

[Valaran]

Literally just said I never claimed they won, wow, way to prove you're not actually reading anything.

ssh now, words are materialist and you shouldn't bow down to their tyranny!

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

not traditionalists

[Traditionalism]

Uh, they still lost a ton more men than the Germans did.

Death or glory. Those Soviet armies raised the red flag above Berlin. Stop being such a materialist. Physical losses are not what matters.

You don't even get it, do you? The other person said the Germans were minced. Didn't happen. Soviets lost over 10 million germans under 5. God don't you people read anything? All you seem to do is take things out of context.

[Valaran]

not traditionalists

Its glorious, right?

[Traditionalism]

not traditionalists

Since it's difficult for you to think, I'll go ahead and let you in on a little secret.

I was obviously a Traditionalist when I made the name, and don't consider myself a Traditionalist anymore. Hope you can wrap your head around this and crack the code

[Mefpan]

Yeah, the Soviets were wiped all over the floor like a rag.

It was the only way to get the pseudo-aryan SStains out of European soil. And they got them out pretty well, given the thousand year Reich's currently continued prolonged nonexistence.

Yeah, thank God the Germans lost the war. Now europe can enjoy muslim rape and invasion.

Yeah. If the Nazis had gotten their way there'd now be a lot less Europeans left alive to be raped. Because they'd kind of planned to de- and re-populate (however the fuck they thought themselves capable of doing that) much of Eastern Europe, and fuck, in some plans, even parts of France.

No matter how you spin it, it continues to sound bad. Perhaps increasing the amount of nazism in Europe's post-45 history isn't the best idea, either?

[Conserative Morality]

You don't even get it, do you? The other person said the Germans were minced. Didn't happen. Soviets lost over 10 million germans under 5. God don't you people read anything? All you seem to do is take things out of context.

Soviets lost a fuck ton of men trying to fight off the Germans. Soviets were fucking wiped around the floor

lol

And losing 5 million soldiers? That's getting minced, regardless of whether you inflicted losses on the enemy or not.

Can't even lose with dignity. Some fascist you are. I knew some fascists back in the day, good guys if disagreeable politically. You haven't an ounce of their character.

[Ardavia]

You can dress up how you want, but the Germans didn't kill enough to win, did they? They lost, and badly.

Its sort of cute trying to watch you claim the fascists succeeded becuase 'they killed people', however.

Never said they succeeded. You need to pay more attention to what you type. You said they were minced, quite the opposite, they fucking destroyed the bolsheviks. Doesn't matter who won. Bolsheviks lost over 10 million while germans lost just under 5 million. It's clear who was minced, regardless of who won the war, which wouldn't have been possible without the lend lease program.

Maskirovka don't real.

Operation Bagration don't real.

Soviet mastery of combined arms don't real.

The Germans being rolled back to the very heart of the Reich don't real.

K/D ratio is the only thing that matters in war.

[Melfar]

Never said they succeeded. You need to pay more attention to what you type. You said they were minced, quite the opposite, they fucking destroyed the bolsheviks. Doesn't matter who won. Bolsheviks lost over 10 million while germans lost just under 5 million. It's clear who was minced, regardless of who won the war, which wouldn't have been possible without the lend lease program.

I must admit, I've never seen someone try to be edgy with historical facts before. Most amusing.

Losing the war = winning it, you heard it here first, folks! Trust the cosmic order and it will blind you from that nasty thing known as reality!

My friend always tries to tell me we won Vietnam, and I'm like "dude, we freaking lost. We won all those battles but we left in shame and the communists took over after we left. That's a loss, buddy."

Referring to WWII, yeah the Russians lost millions of people in battle and concentration camps, but towards the end they outnumbered Germany like 10 to 1. Germany had to send their youngest Hitler Youth members because there were so few soldiers available. Germany was completely destroyed both physically and in regards to their population after the war

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

Since it's difficult for you to think, I'll go ahead and let you in on a little secret.

I was obviously a Traditionalist when I made the name, and don't consider myself a Traditionalist anymore. Hope you can wrap your head around this and crack the code

One month ago. Now you are a blue blood fascist and speak for all fascists.

[The Two Jerseys]

This thread has so many edges it should probably be roped off as a public safety measure.

I'd say so at this point. Walked in and I had no idea what was happening anymore.

"At this point"? I cut myself back on page 1...

[Valaran]

I'd say so at this point. Walked in and I had no idea what was happening anymore.

"At this point"? I cut myself back on page 1...

It was all going good until the 11th post.

[Ardavia]

Death or glory. Those Soviet armies raised the red flag above Berlin. Stop being such a materialist. Physical losses are not what matters.

You don't even get it, do you? The other person said the Germans were minced. Didn't happen. Soviets lost over 10 million germans under 5. God don't you people read anything? All you seem to do is take things out of context.

The Soviets and allies on the Eastern Front lost about 8.9 million soldiers as KIA and MIA.

The Nazis and allies lost just under 5 million men, and saw nearly as many (about 4.6 million) captured.

The Nazis also got outmaneuvered repeatedly, handily got outfought at Kursk and a thousand other places, and were rolled back from the outskirts of Moscow into the very heart of the Reich.

There is no conceivable interpretation of events where the Nazis did anything but lose on the Eastern Front.

[Traditionalism]

You don't even get it, do you? The other person said the Germans were minced. Didn't happen. Soviets lost over 10 million germans under 5. God don't you people read anything? All you seem to do is take things out of context.

Soviets lost a fuck ton of men trying to fight off the Germans. Soviets were fucking wiped around the floor

lol

And losing 5 million soldiers? That's getting minced, regardless of whether you inflicted losses on the enemy or not.

Can't even lose with dignity. Some fascist you are. I knew some fascists back in the day, good guys if disagreeable politically. You haven't an ounce of their character.

Oh no, my enemy doesn't think I have character. WHAT WILL I EVER DO

[Valaran]

Referring to WWII, yeah the Russians lost millions of people in battle and concentration camps, but towards the end they outnumbered Germany like 10 to 1. Germany had to send their youngest Hitler Youth members because there were so few soldiers available. Germany was completely destroyed both physically and in regards to their population after the war

B-but as long as they killed more people, right?

[Traditionalism]

Since it's difficult for you to think, I'll go ahead and let you in on a little secret.

I was obviously a Traditionalist when I made the name, and don't consider myself a Traditionalist anymore. Hope you can wrap your head around this and crack the code

One month ago. Now you are a blue blood fascist and speak for all fascists.

I've always been a Fascist and for like 3 days played around with Traditionalism.

[Valaran]

WHAT WILL I EVER DO

How about becoming a traditionalist.

[Luminesa]

I'd say so at this point. Walked in and I had no idea what was happening anymore.

"At this point"? I cut myself back on page 1...

I think I been dodging points pretty well, until I walked in on this page.

*Gets stabbed by point.* Ow?

[Traditionalism]

Yeah, thank God the Germans lost the war. Now europe can enjoy muslim rape and invasion.

Yeah. If the Nazis had gotten their way there'd now be a lot less Europeans left alive to be raped. Because they'd kind of planned to de- and re-populate (however the fuck they thought themselves capable of doing that) much of Eastern Europe, and fuck, in some plans, even parts of France.

No matter how you spin it, it continues to sound bad. Perhaps increasing the amount of nazism in Europe's post-45 history isn't the best idea, either?

That plan doesn't sound bad at all.