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Postby Phaent » Fri May 06, 2016 1:15 pm

I think that this really stupid apologetics.

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Postby Digital Planets » Fri May 06, 2016 1:17 pm

Why not just make the flirt workshops as a cover to send the migrants to Croatia? The idea they have now is fucking stupid.
So you decide to open it anyway? What the heck, man?

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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri May 06, 2016 1:17 pm

Why haven't feminists been all over the migrant sexual assaults? It baffles me how "microagressions" are getting more attention than rape.


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 06, 2016 1:20 pm

In principle such things aren't a bad idea, but they won't help with these migrants.
The culture they come from does not even really view women as proper people.

This will just result in some of them flirting and then raping anyway. In fact i'd wager this will make things worse and increase the numbers of rapists in the population by providing more confidence to them in approaching western women, but with no understanding about consent or a womans right to refuse and why entitlement to sex is a morally unjustifiable mindset.

They'll go out, flirt, and then turn into an extreme version of those guys who flip their shit when a woman turns them down.
We're expecting these people to deal with an issue we ourselves haven't entirely gotten over, and they're way behind us in these things.
It's a dumb idea, but only because they expect it to work on these migrants.

Flirt workshops themselves aren't a bad idea. They could be helpful to some of the population.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 06, 2016 1:21 pm

The Ben Boys wrote:Why haven't feminists been all over the migrant sexual assaults? It baffles me how "microagressions" are getting more attention than rape.


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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Fri May 06, 2016 1:21 pm

What is so difficult about sitting folks down and telling them:

NO. THIS IS WRONG. YOU DO NOT TREAT WOMEN THIS WAY. OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. END OF.

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Postby Zaurell » Fri May 06, 2016 1:24 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:What is so difficult about sitting folks down and telling them:

NO. THIS IS WRONG. YOU DO NOT TREAT WOMEN THIS WAY. OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. END OF.

I agree with DLN. "Flirt workshops" seem completely ineffective.
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Postby Digital Planets » Fri May 06, 2016 1:25 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:What is so difficult about sitting folks down and telling them:

NO. THIS IS WRONG. YOU DO NOT TREAT WOMEN THIS WAY. OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. END OF.


Just get U.S. drill sergeants to work these workshops, but instead of it being a flirt-shop it's actually a Marine drill camp and the migrants then get sent off to Croatia.
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Postby Valaran » Fri May 06, 2016 1:26 pm

I just find it silly, but not much more than that.

Its just a classic case of good intentions without a clue of how this might be bad pr.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri May 06, 2016 1:27 pm

Legion of the Archangel wrote:In my opinion this is uneffective and will not help anybody.

Why?
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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Fri May 06, 2016 1:28 pm

Oh, Germany... What happened to you...?
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Postby Serconas » Fri May 06, 2016 1:29 pm

Legion of the Archangel wrote:According to the Die Stern the german government decided to fund flirt workshops for regufees to help communicate with german woman. The reason behind this is the government believes the Cologne attacks and other sexual assault incident that are going on were caused because the migrants had no proper experiance with woman in their home countries. So, the best way to prevent sexual attacks, according to this theory is to open workshop where migrants can be tought how to flirt with woman. Afterall 70% of asylium seekers are male. Here is a video from a german TV station how does this looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C--olg ... e=youtu.be

Source: http://www.stern.de/familie/leben/sexua ... 79524.html

For thoose who speak German
Aufklärungskurs für Flüchtlinge - Let's talk about sex

In Aufklärungskursen lernen junge Migranten, wie sich Mann und Frau in Deutschland respektvoll begegnen. Die Nachhilfe ist für viele bitter notwendig, wie sich nicht nur an Silvester in Köln gezeigt hat. Klar ist: Hier ist alles ganz anders.


In my opinion this is uneffective and will not help anybody.


So, NSG is this a good thing and will it be effective?

Have you bothered running the German bit through Google Translate?
It says, that in this 'workshop', as you call it, the migrants learn how to deal with man and women in a respectful manner. It is written, that it is absolutely essential for them, especially after what happened on
New Year in Cologne, as the article notes further down.
It´s a SexEd course.

Oh and attendance is voluntary. The interest in such a course is high, though.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Fri May 06, 2016 1:29 pm

So only men have are encouraged to go?
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Postby Noraika » Fri May 06, 2016 1:30 pm

I prefer the Norwegian way of doing things. If the men are sexually harassing women, treating their wives or women in general as their inferiors, trying to force their wives or women to stay home, not work, or not obtain an education, then the state comes in and tells them firmly that "Those beliefs and attitudes have no place in our culture, and the society we wish to promote. You will either cease this, or we will separate you from your wife and children, and if you continue, or if this is behavior towards women in society in general, you will be made to leave. Assimilation is necessary in this regard.

I find it insulting to German women, and survivors of sexual assault and violence by migrants. Migrants don't need to be taught how to 'flirt' or 'pick up' women. They need to be taught to RESPECT women.
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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Fri May 06, 2016 1:30 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:What is so difficult about sitting folks down and telling them:

NO. THIS IS WRONG. YOU DO NOT TREAT WOMEN THIS WAY. OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. END OF.

That's literally part of what they're being taught, if you watch the video.

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Postby Serconas » Fri May 06, 2016 1:30 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:What is so difficult about sitting folks down and telling them:

NO. THIS IS WRONG. YOU DO NOT TREAT WOMEN THIS WAY. OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. END OF.

That´s what the workshop is about. But OP didn´t bother and only read the title of the video.
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Postby Serconas » Fri May 06, 2016 1:32 pm

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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Fri May 06, 2016 1:32 pm

It's good that the video has roughly 99% dislikes apparently based on all the retarded people who have clicked on it at the whim of PEDIGA or Britain First or whoever else, been INSTANTLY OFFENDED and not watched more than maybe 5 seconds of it.

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Postby Netherlands Mualenia » Fri May 06, 2016 1:32 pm

Hahaha, Merkel is really planning on instigating a revolution, isn't she? Nazis gonna return to power if she continues like this. Bunch of rich imbeciles.

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Postby Zoice » Fri May 06, 2016 1:33 pm

It's good to help people assimilate. I dunno that this is the way to do it. At least they aren't all freaking out like some wackos are.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri May 06, 2016 1:34 pm

This is a dumb idea. How about opening a workshop that teaches people how to respect each other? Girls respecting guys and guys respecting girls? You know?...

It'd be a lot more useful than a flirt-shop. -____-
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Postby Vassenor » Fri May 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:Hahaha, Merkel is really planning on instigating a revolution, isn't she? Nazis gonna return to power if she continues like this. Bunch of rich imbeciles.


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Postby Serconas » Fri May 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:Hahaha, Merkel is really planning on instigating a revolution, isn't she? Nazis gonna return to power if she continues like this. Bunch of rich imbeciles.

Learn German. Read the article.
Or better, read what was posted before you did.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri May 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Noraika wrote:I prefer the Norwegian way of doing things. If the men are sexually harassing women, treating their wives or women in general as their inferiors, trying to force their wives or women to stay home, not work, or not obtain an education, then the state comes in and tells them firmly that "Those beliefs and attitudes have no place in our culture, and the society we wish to promote. You will either cease this, or we will separate you from your wife and children, and if you continue, or if this is behavior towards women in society in general, you will be made to leave. Assimilation is necessary in this regard.

What are you talking about? This doesn't happen.
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Postby Zaurell » Fri May 06, 2016 1:35 pm

Noraika wrote:I prefer the Norwegian way of doing things. If the men are sexually harassing women, treating their wives or women in general as their inferiors, trying to force their wives or women to stay home, not work, or not obtain an education, then the state comes in and tells them firmly that "Those beliefs and attitudes have no place in our culture, and the society we wish to promote. You will either cease this, or we will separate you from your wife and children, and if you continue, or if this is behavior towards women in society in general, you will be made to leave. Assimilation is necessary in this regard.

I find it insulting to German women, and survivors of sexual assault and violence by migrants. Migrants don't need to be taught how to 'flirt' or 'pick up' women. They need to be taught to RESPECT women.

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