UK Politics Thread III: Thready McThreadface (+ Jo Cox)

[Lamadia II]

websites without [the] appropriate means to stop minors from accessing them illegal.

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

[Vassenor]

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

Because people never lie about their age on registration forms.

[Imperializt Russia]

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

Because that's not already wildly open to abuse on such platforms in terms of blackmail material.

Empowering blackmailers isn't very liberal.

[Souseiseki]

By making the creation of websites without appropriate means to stop minors from accessing them illegal. Quite simple, isn't it? Police look for websites or have them reported with no such restrictions. The same methods for tracking down the 'even worse' parts of the genre you note below- it is worth it, considering the psychological effects this kind of thing can have on minors. It would not be difficult to get this through Parliament.

but how? we don't control the world. do we set up a massive internet fitler or firewall of britain to block the majority of the world's porn sites? and how do you actually verify? credit card? personal details? so now we have the government filtering half the internet and having the ability to track the most intimate usages of it by its citizens. can you see how that's a bit of "road to hell is paved with good intentions" scenario?

Anything involving minors or non-consensual intercourse is illegal

so legal actors, people roleplaying and drawings not created using real images are ok then? again, kinda nitpicky, but i need to remove any doubt.

but I am bearing in mind I am at school, it is a risky area, and therefore I do not want to go into detail on that subject.

i suppose i can understand if you want to avoid talking about it, admittedly with the caveat that the people that can't even have sex with their partners without knowing if the government has arbitrarily decided it's too kinky for their tastes cannot avoid the law

Cocaine, heroin and other class-A substances punishable with heavier penalties for drugs such as marijuana, which would be punishable upon supply with intent to use, however not in possession with intent to sell. Again, harder to get through Parliament, however merely an extension on current laws, reducing the impact drugs have on society in the case of less-severe substances by accepting they are used, offering the freedom to do so, whilst fighting to destroy the illegal industry.

you know what would destroy the illegal industry and stop people profiting from crime? legalizing it.

incidentally, have you need the new psychoactive substances bill? what a trainwreck.

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

and then what? sue the kids if they lie? arrest the parnets?

[Valaran]

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

There are several issues with such a proposal that have been noted, not to mention that this does nothing to resolve the distribution of pornography via other means (sending images via communication sites, for instance).

In short, there is no foolproof method for to ensure that minors cannot see illegal material.

[Wolfmanne2]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

[Salandriagado]

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

Yeah, I've put a fake date of birth into every single website I've ever made an account on. This is not, in any sense, illegal.

[Wolfmanne2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-GMTxycAXY

Dug up this old fossil. Gotta love Alistair Campbell for giving the Mail what it deserved (watch from 4:49).

[Souseiseki]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

home secretary tip: if all the experts, consultations and parliamentary committees tell you something is dumb please please please don't do it

[Conscentia]

This is nearly impossible to do, as its impossible to tell when a minor is accessing your website (in most cases).

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

People can lie when making an account. Just making it illegal won't do anything. Piracy is illegal - people still do it. Such restrictions are not easily enforceable.

[Wolfmanne2]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

home secretary tip: if all the experts, consultations and parliamentary committees tell you something is dumb please please please don't do it

There's also the Director of Communications to give her a bollocking for 'stupid fucking ideas'.

[Imperializt Russia]

How many legal barriers stand in the way of my dreams of an energy policy that works for Britain and for Britons?


(sorry Iffy)

[Lamadia II]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

Sign in with an e-mail address, or make an account, which guarantees your age at the risk of being faced with legal action.

There are several issues with such a proposal that have been noted, not to mention that this does nothing to resolve the distribution of pornography via other means (sending images via communication sites, for instance).

In short, there is no foolproof method for to ensure that minors cannot see illegal material.

No, and, obviously, this is all rhetoric speculation. But there has to be a way of stopping minors accessing such material, or at least make it much harder.

[Imperializt Russia]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

Please be joking.

[Salandriagado]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

And that, right there, is why you should never, ever hold a political office.

There are several issues with such a proposal that have been noted, not to mention that this does nothing to resolve the distribution of pornography via other means (sending images via communication sites, for instance).

In short, there is no foolproof method for to ensure that minors cannot see illegal material.

No, and, obviously, this is all rhetoric speculation. But there has to be a way of stopping minors accessing such material, or at least make it much harder.

No, not really. Short of North-Korea level censorship, there's nothing much you can do.

[Souseiseki]

Thank god that civil servants and political advisers exist to tell Lamadia 'this is fucking impossible'.

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

There are several issues with such a proposal that have been noted, not to mention that this does nothing to resolve the distribution of pornography via other means (sending images via communication sites, for instance).

In short, there is no foolproof method for to ensure that minors cannot see illegal material.

No, and, obviously, this is all rhetoric speculation. But there has to be a way of stopping minors accessing such material, or at least make it much harder.

if only there was some kind of parental control on computers

[Valaran]

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There are several issues with such a proposal that have been noted, not to mention that this does nothing to resolve the distribution of pornography via other means (sending images via communication sites, for instance).

In short, there is no foolproof method for to ensure that minors cannot see illegal material.

No, and, obviously, this is all rhetoric speculation. But there has to be a way of stopping minors accessing such material, or at least make it much harder.

There are ways of making it harder (indeed your proposals could do this), but many of these ways would also make it more untraceable, by driving the dissemination of such activities deeper underground.

Perhaps education on this would be a more successful allocation of funds, though indeed law enforcement should still play a part.

[Wolfmanne2]

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

Please be joking.

You know how I appear complete and utterly amoral and nasty and shit, along with being complete and utterly nitpicky of my own party due to an obsession of being able to win elections? Spin doctors are like that. Except a billion times worse. The Thick of It is might as well be a docudrama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLkvzJGfJA

It's laughable to suggest you could take on people like Lynton Crosby, Peter Mandelson and Alistair Campbell. They're hired because they can scare the shit out of politicians.

[Lamadia II]

I have the funny feeling that if I were Home Secretary, and they said that to me, I would first of all tell them to bugger-off and then use my predecessor’s I.P.B to blackmail them into doing as I say!

Please be joking.

That is slightly better than state-sanctioned murders, bribery, or having GCHQ plant incriminating material on hardrives and then having the details of this material leaked to the Daily Mail.

[Olivaero]

Please be joking.

You know how I appear complete and utterly amoral and nasty and shit, along with being complete and utterly nitpicky of my own party due to an obsession of being able to win elections? Spin doctors are like that. Except a billion times worse. The Thick of It is might as well be a docudrama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLkvzJGfJA

It's laughable to suggest you could take on people like Lynton Crosby, Peter Mandelson and Alistair Campbell. They're hired because they can scare the shit out of politicians.

What is Jeremy Corbyn then? Their cryptonite? because as I remember Peter Mandelson and Alistair Cambell vanished like a fart on the wind infront of the mighty gale force of #Jezwecan

[Imperializt Russia]

Please be joking.

You know how I appear complete and utterly amoral and nasty and shit, along with being complete and utterly nitpicky of my own party due to an obsession of being able to win elections? Spin doctors are like that. Except a billion times worse. The Thick of It is might as well be a docudrama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLkvzJGfJA

It's laughable to suggest you could take on people like Lynton Crosby, Peter Mandelson and Alistair Campbell. They're hired because they can scare the shit out of politicians.

Peter Mandelson doesn't not scare the shit out of anything.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

So the conclusion I'm drawing is that Lamadia is a fuck-you-got-mine "libertarian" rather than a libertarian who actually believes in liberty above all else.
I'm so very surprised.

[Napkiraly]

Where else can I get peri peri and a pint of Fosters?

You actually like drinking Aussie piss?

I was a student. It's an acquired taste.

Italian food in Italy is literally one of life's greatest pleasures c:
cheeky nandos does not compare.

Exactly! Italy and Turkey, who the fuck needs a nandos?

*raises hand*

Where else can I get peri peri and a pint of Fosters?

Italian food in Italy is literally one of life's greatest pleasures c:
cheeky nandos does not compare.

As a Canadian, I've always been a good tourist. But now since I've been living in the UK, whenever I get drunk I start sounding a wee bit British. It gives me an excuse to be an annoying tourist which is something I've always wanted to experience. Let me have this one joy in this dark life, Val.

[Philjia]

I think this is important, or at least interesting. It's a recording of Clement Attlee explaining the welfare state and the NHS to the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rqyzWzDONQ

[Anywhere Else But Here]

I think this is important, or at least interesting. It's a recording of Clement Attlee explaining the welfare state and the NHS to the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rqyzWzDONQ

Socialist nonsense! Pure politics of envy!