Suburb vs downtown.

[Cetacea]

When you're alone and life is making you lonely you can always go downtown.

yes I can always go there if I want to, which is why I live in a rural township where the nearest Downtown with skyscrapers is 2 hours drive away. I can get all the convenience I want going to a suburban shopping mall (40 minutes drive)

now I spent my teens in the burbs and Varsity days downtown and I still love Visiting - but I'd never live there again

[Kubra]

Downtown or country. No suburbs.

Downtown you have all the excitement and convenience of city life. You have access to everything you need in walking distance or a short bus/subway ride away, and cities just have so much style.

In the country you have peace and quiet and nature. It's relaxing, it's beautiful in its own way, and you don't have to worry about anyone getting in your business.

In the suburbs, you have neither the convenience of the city nor the peace and natural beauty of the countryside. I just don't understand the appeal.

But trains and buses...suck. And you have to base your travel around their schedule. That blows.

It sucks cuz we live in north america
the cities with trains and buses that are actually good here are few

[Risottia]

I always found ludicrous the idea that city centres are considered as "poor" in the US.

[USS Monitor]

But trains and buses...suck. And you have to base your travel around their schedule. That blows.

It sucks cuz we live in north america
the cities with trains and buses that are actually good here are few

In Boston they get obnoxiously crowded sometimes and the T has had a lot of construction lately, but they run often and they go all over the place. When I lived in Boston, I did not have a driver's license or a car, and it wasn't really a problem.

[Kubra]

It sucks cuz we live in north america
the cities with trains and buses that are actually good here are few

In Boston they get obnoxiously crowded sometimes and the T has had a lot of construction lately, but they run often and they go all over the place. When I lived in Boston, I did not have a driver's license or a car, and it wasn't really a problem.

I'd take crowded over 1 hour frequency any day
prob no worse than the Manila crowd, anyways. That was great, you could just go limp and the crowded would just push you into the train anyways

[USS Monitor]

I always found ludicrous the idea that city centres are considered as "poor" in the US.

That depends on the specific city and neighborhood. Most American cities will have both extremely wealthy neighborhoods and grimy slums within the city proper.

[USS Monitor]

In Boston they get obnoxiously crowded sometimes and the T has had a lot of construction lately, but they run often and they go all over the place. When I lived in Boston, I did not have a driver's license or a car, and it wasn't really a problem.

I'd take crowded over 1 hour frequency any day
prob no worse than the Manila crowd, anyways. That was great, you could just go limp and the crowded would just push you into the train anyways

I've never been to Manila, but that sounds more crowded than Boston.

[Risottia]

I always found ludicrous the idea that city centres are considered as "poor" in the US.

That depends on the specific city and neighborhood. Most American cities will have both extremely wealthy neighborhoods and grimy slums within the city proper.

Yeah, I know, but to Europeans that's quite weird.

[Kubra]

I'd take crowded over 1 hour frequency any day
prob no worse than the Manila crowd, anyways. That was great, you could just go limp and the crowded would just push you into the train anyways

I've never been to Manila, but that sounds more crowded than Boston.

4 lines for 11.8 mil people
It's a bit hectic

[USS Monitor]

I've never been to Manila, but that sounds more crowded than Boston.

4 lines for 11.8 mil people
It's a bit hectic

Yeah, that sounds pretty crazy. Worst subway I ever had to deal with was Beijing back when they only had 2 lines.

[Radiatia]

Either is fine. I spent the last few years living downtown but recently moved to the suburbs, mainly because I'm starting to get a bit older and am craving a bit more peace and quiet.

[Jetan]

Well, I've lived in suburban area for most of my life but after moving to the city I'm not sure I'd switch back. The public transport alone is too good compared to my "home" home to give up.

[Eol Sha]

Downtown or country. No suburbs.

Downtown you have all the excitement and convenience of city life. You have access to everything you need in walking distance or a short bus/subway ride away, and cities just have so much style.

In the country you have peace and quiet and nature. It's relaxing, it's beautiful in its own way, and you don't have to worry about anyone getting in your business.

In the suburbs, you have neither the convenience of the city nor the peace and natural beauty of the countryside. I just don't understand the appeal.

But trains and buses...suck. And you have to base your travel around their schedule. That blows.

They worked well enough for me when I attended college in DC.

[Moctina]

I used to, and sometimes still do, live in the very heart of Central London, which is very different in terms of price than other cities, where it is cheaper to live in the suburbs.
Mostly, I live in Virginia Water, Surrey, which is a very suburban-rural area, which gives it its remarkable reputation I was attracted to. Indeed, it really does come down to employment; my parents work in the city, so they prefer, of course, to be 'downtown' during the week, but the quiet suburbs in places like Surrey are ideal for weekends. I am not too sure what I prefer- both are very nice.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Downtown, where the gangs are real and the drugs ain't soft.

[Aparatix]

The suburbs are a cesspool of mediocrity, a place where ambition goes to die.

[Greed and Death]

The city until you have a kid and want a yard and neighbors you can actually let him play with then the burbs.

[Costa Fierro]

That depends on the specific city and neighborhood. Most American cities will have both extremely wealthy neighborhoods and grimy slums within the city proper.

Yeah, I know, but to Europeans that's quite weird.

Perhaps it's because the American idea of wealth was a large house in the suburbs with a garage, car and enough room for at least two children?

[Greed and Death]

Yeah, I know, but to Europeans that's quite weird.

Perhaps it's because the American idea of wealth was a large house in the suburbs with a garage, car and enough room for at least two children?

A big yard and a pool. Every child should have his own room.

[Petrolheadia]

Well, I've lived in suburban area for most of my life but after moving to the city I'm not sure I'd switch back. The public transport alone is too good compared to my "home" home to give up.

What about more space in the suburbs?

[Eol Sha]

Yeah, I know, but to Europeans that's quite weird.

Perhaps it's because the American idea of wealth was a large house in the suburbs with a garage, car and enough room for at least two children?

Then what's the European idea of wealth if such a thing even exists?

[Jetan]

Downtown, where the gangs are real and the drugs ain't soft.

Near me there's a place informally known as "Amfetamine Square".

[Petrolheadia]

Perhaps it's because the American idea of wealth was a large house in the suburbs with a garage, car and enough room for at least two children?

Then what's the European idea of wealth if such a thing even exists?

It is the same. People have similar dreams around the world.

[Greed and Death]

Then what's the European idea of wealth if such a thing even exists?

It is the same. People have similar dreams around the world.

just a large house with a pool downtown not in the burbs.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Perhaps it's because the American idea of wealth was a large house in the suburbs with a garage, car and enough room for at least two children?

A big yard and a pool. Every child should have his own room.

I don't think that's really necessary, then again I grew up with 20 something siblings