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United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
People will fight your invaders to defend their property. You can expect rural towns to become military city states. You won't make it especially if you stray into the South.

You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

It would be a high possibility that several southern cities could join forces. The south tends to have a southern unity mindset.

NeuPolska wrote:

Peridot Best Gem wrote:Robot Invasion. If the roobo-tech is ANYTHING like our current tech, 95% of the invading forces would have glitched out by the third day (If you count all the times it must have been covered in water, hit, had some cords pulled, etc.). Just go on a boat in the middle of a large lake and those robots won't be able to get to you without getting shocked.

Surprise Motherfucker

Scomagia wrote:I never said it was a foolproof plan. It does, however, have some degree of real world applicability and may (perhaps only slightly) increase the odds of survival.

In reality, I'd still probably die like most everyone else.

Yeah it's really the only viable plan. I just wanted to point out the fact that it's very hard to ensure your survival in a pandemic.

Waterproof phones and laptops and stuff typically only survive underwater for a few hours. In the middle of a large lake or the ocean, it would take forever to get there. Anyways, things as large as robots typically aren't waterproof.

Peridot Best Gem wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

It would be a high possibility that several southern cities could join forces. The south tends to have a southern unity mindset.

I could see communities in states joining one another.

No point in trying to recreate a dead nation. I could see communities joining to form boundaries in their own states it would be a lot easier.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
What if the said group sees the growing piles of bodies?

Never stopped anyone. Look at the Crossing of the Rhine in 405 or the Danube in 376. They knew that they were about to invade the greatest military power in human history that had chewed and spit out armies bigger than theirs, and they still marched in.

THOSE WERE SOLDIERS! Stop comparing civilians to trained fighters.

Zeon Refounded wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:Never stopped anyone. Look at the Crossing of the Rhine in 405 or the Danube in 376. They knew that they were about to invade the greatest military power in human history that had chewed and spit out armies bigger than theirs, and they still marched in.

THOSE WERE SOLDIERS! Stop comparing civilians to trained fighters.

lol, no they weren't. It wasn't an invasion, it was an armed migration.

Peridot Best Gem wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:You know what the problem with rural towns becoming military city states? Their tiny population. What will they do when a roving group of people ten times the size of their town shows up?

It would be a high possibility that several southern cities could join forces. The south tends to have a southern unity mindset.

Thank you.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
THOSE WERE SOLDIERS! Stop comparing civilians to trained fighters.

lol, no they weren't. It wasn't an invasion, it was an armed migration.

Warriors are trained. They had warriors. Also don't compare the hardy barbarians to today's city dwellers.

Zeon Refounded wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:lol, no they weren't. It wasn't an invasion, it was an armed migration.

Warriors are trained.

It wasn't all warriors. At the crossing of the Danube, Peter Heather (one of the foremost historians of the period) estimates that warriors made up, at best, only 20% of the crossers.

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:Solar flare is the easiest. It would last the shortest (really, we can rebuild that shit pretty easy), and people lived like that for most of history anyway. Plus, it would shake up the social order a bit, and hopefully I could jocky myself into a nice and comfy monarchy, junta, or religious post.

I hope you save some room for the Junta.

Junta?

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:

Peridot Best Gem wrote:
It would be a high possibility that several southern cities could join forces. The south tends to have a southern unity mindset.

I could see communities in states joining one another.

No point in trying to recreate a dead nation. I could see communities joining to form boundaries in their own states it would be a lot easier.

This is basically inevitable and why few city states still exist. City states will create alliances, bigger city states will take over smaller surrounding ones. See Ancient Greece.

Dead to nukes probably.

Novaya Equestria wrote:

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:I hope you save some room for the Junta.

Junta?

Military Junta over whatever settlements there are.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Warriors are trained.

It wasn't all warriors. At the crossing of the Danube, Peter Heather (one of the foremost historians of the period) estimates that warriors made up, at best, only 20% of the crossers.

Read my edit

Zeon Refounded wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:It wasn't all warriors. At the crossing of the Danube, Peter Heather (one of the foremost historians of the period) estimates that warriors made up, at best, only 20% of the crossers.

Read my edit

If the alternative is starving to death, then they will march on.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Read my edit

If the alternative is starving to death, then they will march on.

Still see you have some of your old habits left.

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:

Novaya Equestria wrote:Junta?

Military Junta over whatever settlements there are.

Oh. I like Military Juntas.

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Read my edit

If the alternative is starving to death, then they will march on.

Then they can eat their own corspes.

The military would probably sweep back in and restore order across the country and combine efforts to fix things to be honest.

For me.. Well, just live in my valley for a good while. We live in a rural area small town, so yea.

You left out the three most likely scenarios:

1 - Most likely - Severe impact. The odds of the earth being hit by an object of sufficient size to cause mass extinctions in any ten year period is over 97%. We have been extremely lucky throughout most of mankind's existence on Earth.

2 - Magnetic pole reversal. This has occurred about every 200,000 years. During this time, the earth is completely vulnerable to solar mass ejections. We are over 100,000 years past due.

3 - Distant cosmological event. In the late 1970's, a magnetar event occurred and was recorded by instruments on earth. If the event had been 20 light-years closer, the energy which struck the earth would have ripped the atmosphere from the planet.

The only way to survive any of these is to
1 - not be on the earth at the time
2 - be living in a protected habitat on the earth

Zeon Refounded wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:If the alternative is starving to death, then they will march on.

Then they can eat their own corspes.

The thing about cannibalism is the potentially degenerative proteins involved.

Tekeristan wrote:The military would probably sweep back in and restore order across the country and combine efforts to fix things.

For me.. Well, just live in my valley for a good while. We live in a rural area small town, so yea.

If a pandemic is severe enough the secession movements may make a full restoration of the U.S impossible.

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Then they can eat their own corspes.

The thing about cannibalism is the potentially degenerative proteins involved.

Well they can eat those or bullets.

Zeon Refounded wrote:

United Marxist Nations wrote:If the alternative is starving to death, then they will march on.

Then they can eat their own corspes.

Or they can force their way into a a farm (who would stop them) and eat there before moving on, or, better yet, make an agreement with the farmers to harvest the crop in exchange for part of it.

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:

Tekeristan wrote:The military would probably sweep back in and restore order across the country and combine efforts to fix things.

For me.. Well, just live in my valley for a good while. We live in a rural area small town, so yea.

If a pandemic is severe enough the secession movements may make a full restoration of the U.S impossible.

Well, doesn't mean that they wouldn't be 'liberated' by the overwhelming strength of the U.S army, or convinced to join the country of old. So things would prove interesting.

Zeon Refounded wrote:

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:The thing about cannibalism is the potentially degenerative proteins involved.

Well they can eat those or bullets.

How about I take your stuff with the help of some friends?

Probably lose a few family members from this, and justifiably go mad with rage.