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We have no good presidential picks.

Postby New American Republic of Texas » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:50 pm

Wtf. Hillary is a Corrupt, Lying, Criminal, Trump is just un-trustworthy, and Gary is just another democrat who calls himself a libertarian. I wish Austin Petersen got the libertarian Nomination. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If you dont know who Austin is, here is a link: http://austinpetersen2016.com/
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:38 pm

New American Republic of Texas wrote:Wtf. Hillary is a Corrupt, Lying, Criminal, Trump is just un-trustworthy, and Gary is just another democrat who calls himself a libertarian. I wish Austin Petersen got the libertarian Nomination. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If you dont know who Austin is, here is a link: http://austinpetersen2016.com/


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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:25 pm

New American Republic of Texas wrote:Wtf. Hillary is a Corrupt, Lying, Criminal, Trump is just un-trustworthy, and Gary is just another democrat who calls himself a libertarian. I wish Austin Petersen got the libertarian Nomination. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If you dont know who Austin is, here is a link: http://austinpetersen2016.com/

Petersen is an honorable man, but calling Johnson a Democrat is cognitive dissonance, pure and simple.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:16 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:https://www.facebook.com/sarwark4chair/?fref=nf

RIP Marc Allen Feldmann


That's awful, he seemed like a great guy.

New American Republic of Texas wrote:Wtf. Hillary is a Corrupt, Lying, Criminal, Trump is just un-trustworthy, and Gary is just another democrat who calls himself a libertarian. I wish Austin Petersen got the libertarian Nomination. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If you dont know who Austin is, here is a link: http://austinpetersen2016.com/


I really hope Petersen sticks around and tries for a house seat then tries to grab the nomination again in 2020.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:27 pm

I'd love it if Petersen ran 2020, or 2024. I think he could do well by running for governor or senator or something in the meantime, just to get the experience.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:04 pm

New American Republic of Texas wrote:Wtf. Hillary is a Corrupt, Lying, Criminal, Trump is just un-trustworthy, and Gary is just another democrat who calls himself a libertarian. I wish Austin Petersen got the libertarian Nomination. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. If you dont know who Austin is, here is a link: http://austinpetersen2016.com/


He's not even close to being a Democrat...
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O America 2016

Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:22 pm

Some guy bitched I didn't sing my parody songs today. WTF?
Well, here's a poem. But it can be sung to the "O Canada" tune. It's a parody of the original poem the Canadian national anthem is based upon which was written in 1908.
This is NOT a parody of the Canadian anthem, because it's not, that song is very short and choppy. So I can't and I shouldn't do that. The original poem is just below the parody. It's a very nice poem.
I did live in Canada once and it's a great country with wonderful people. They do have a very good sense of humor up there. 8)
O, and I know Vermin Supreme and Jimmy McMillan aren't the same guy. I just merged their bits for the sake of rhyme. ;)

"O America 2016"

O Donald Trump! Our comb-over hateful man!
True Patriot love in Tom Brady's command.
With golfing carts and small hand size,
The White Man, wrong but free!
And build the wall, O Donald Trump,
Mexico pays the bill for thee.

Refrain:
O Donald Trump, totally Scot free!
He built a wall, He built a wall for free.
O Donald Trump, He builds a wall for free!

O Hillary! Where Marijuana grows.
Straights and gays wed and Bill's interns that blow.
How dear to us broadband domain,
Where least and richest can be,
Thou land of climate change not oil!
Thou true worth's diversity!

Refrain
O Hillary, mother of Chelsea!
Has the trump Card, Has the trump card o'er thee.
O Hillary, has the trump card o'er thee!

O Johnson-Weld! Underneath them other guys
May your cash on hand and poll numbers really rise,
To keep your growth fast through the years
Deceased and absentees,
Libertarians you're outmanned!
But henceforth, we're tax free!

Refrain:
O Johnson-Weld, we are tax free!
No debt on the card, No debt on bank cards for thee.
O Johnson-Weld, No debt on bank cards for thee!

Vermin Supreme, who has no single prayer,
All these opinions between the hip and square;
Help us not to find, a Mod's wrath in thee
A lasting, rich reward,
Avoiding Judgement Day,
Can you stand the psycho ward?

Refrain:
Vermin Supreme, rent's too high for thee!
Not a retard, rent's way too high for thee.
Vermin Supreme, rent's way too high for thee!

The Original "O Canada" Poem by Judge, R. Stanley Weir, 1908

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North, strong and free!
And stand on guard, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.

Refrain
O Canada, glorious and free!
We stand on guard, we stand on guard for free.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!

O Canada! Where pines and maples grow.
Great prairies spread and lordly rivers flow.
How dear to us thy broad domain,
From East to Western Sea,
Thou land of hope for all who toil!
Thou True North, strong and free!

Refrain
O Canada, glorious and free! etc.

O Canada! Beneath thy shining skies
May stalwart sons and gentle maidens rise,
To keep thee steadfast through the years
From East to Western Sea,
Our own beloved native land!
Our True North, strong and free!

Refrain
O Canada, glorious and free! etc.

Ruler supreme, who hearest humble prayer,
Hold our dominion within thy loving care;
Help us to find, O God, in thee
A lasting, rich reward,
As waiting for the Better Day,
We ever stand on guard.

Refrain
O Canada, glorious and free! etc

Original Poem by Judge, R. Stanley Weir, 1908
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:30 pm

It's- It's beautiful. Such a great voice 8)
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:39 pm

Zurkerx wrote:It's- It's beautiful. Such a great voice 8)


*clearing voice* Thank you! 8)

*curtsies* :bow:
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Postby Skeckoa » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:33 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd love it if Petersen ran 2020, or 2024. I think he could do well by running for governor or senator or something in the meantime, just to get the experience.
I'd personally love to see him in the HofR taking on a symbolic Ron Paulesque role because of the fact that he is so well spoken.

I don't know if I can trust him as an executive though
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:36 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd love it if Petersen ran 2020, or 2024. I think he could do well by running for governor or senator or something in the meantime, just to get the experience.
I'd personally love to see him in the HofR taking on a symbolic Ron Paulesque role because of the fact that he is so well spoken.

I don't know if I can trust him as an executive though


Like I said, if he matures and bit and gets some experience he would be phenomenal.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:46 pm

So, how do you guys apply libertarianism to your everyday life? It's more than discussing theoretics, you know. We share a lot in common with left-anarchists when it comes to direct action as a feasible alternative to electoral politics.

There are movements, for example, to attempt to live outside of what is called the "white market," to encourage for example, use of black and grey markets. Grey markets include using Uber and AirBnB, bitcoin, and other services that while tolerated by the state, are not endorsed. On the other hand, some libertarians actively embrace the black market, like the Silk Road had tried and succeeded for a while, and other illicit activities from sex work to smuggling - although I don't particularly endorse black market activities - just grey market ones, and I would encourage not bragging about it here on this site. :P Other barely tolerated measures include being self employed and working under the table and selling things on an open market like garage sales instead of buying from statist corporations.

Alternatively, routes that are traditionally embraced by the left include the "back to nature" types and self-sustainability - grow your own food! Grow vegetables, not government. Use solar power instead of buying power from some state backed corporation. Dig a well and gain water that way. Build your own home out of natural materials. Ever collected rain water? Illegal in some places you know, but you can do it. Live off the grid, basically.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:56 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:So, how do you guys apply libertarianism to your everyday life? It's more than discussing theoretics, you know. We share a lot in common with left-anarchists when it comes to direct action as a feasible alternative to electoral politics.

There are movements, for example, to attempt to live outside of what is called the "white market," to encourage for example, use of black and grey markets. Grey markets include using Uber and AirBnB, bitcoin, and other services that while tolerated by the state, are not endorsed. On the other hand, some libertarians actively embrace the black market, like the Silk Road had tried and succeeded for a while, and other illicit activities from sex work to smuggling - although I don't particularly endorse black market activities - just grey market ones, and I would encourage not bragging about it here on this site. :P Other barely tolerated measures include being self employed and working under the table and selling things on an open market like garage sales instead of buying from statist corporations.

Alternatively, routes that are traditionally embraced by the left include the "back to nature" types and self-sustainability - grow your own food! Grow vegetables, not government. Use solar power instead of buying power from some state backed corporation. Dig a well and gain water that way. Build your own home out of natural materials. Ever collected rain water? Illegal in some places you know, but you can do it. Live off the grid, basically.


I've been doing under the table work for a while now, and hopefully soon I'll be self employed in building and selling guns.

I'm also quite a big fan of things like Bitcoin, kinda wish I had bought up when they were in the $300's a while back.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:20 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:So, how do you guys apply libertarianism to your everyday life? It's more than discussing theoretics, you know. We share a lot in common with left-anarchists when it comes to direct action as a feasible alternative to electoral politics.

There are movements, for example, to attempt to live outside of what is called the "white market," to encourage for example, use of black and grey markets. Grey markets include using Uber and AirBnB, bitcoin, and other services that while tolerated by the state, are not endorsed. On the other hand, some libertarians actively embrace the black market, like the Silk Road had tried and succeeded for a while, and other illicit activities from sex work to smuggling - although I don't particularly endorse black market activities - just grey market ones, and I would encourage not bragging about it here on this site. :P Other barely tolerated measures include being self employed and working under the table and selling things on an open market like garage sales instead of buying from statist corporations.

Alternatively, routes that are traditionally embraced by the left include the "back to nature" types and self-sustainability - grow your own food! Grow vegetables, not government. Use solar power instead of buying power from some state backed corporation. Dig a well and gain water that way. Build your own home out of natural materials. Ever collected rain water? Illegal in some places you know, but you can do it. Live off the grid, basically.


I've tried selling my art on the street and foraging for food.

The art thing got messed up because a business moved into the space I used to use, and I've never found another space that worked as well. Also, the other artists I used to share the space with are gone, so I have no one to watch my stuff if I have to take a bathroom break. This guy started his own store, the other regulars moved to California, and I have no idea what happened to the UMass students or random wannabes that used to come sporadically.

I've been meaning to go into Boston and try again, but every weekend, I end up busy with something else or they predict bad weather or I just decide I'd rather sleep in.

Foraging for food... I've found some nice mushrooms, but I live in an urban area and I'm not really an expert forager, so it's not anything I can rely on too much. There are only a few kinds of edible mushrooms that I know how to recognize. Wild onions were pretty good too, but then the city mowed where they were growing. It's still fun to dabble in, and you get to try different foods, even if you still have to buy groceries. That reminds me, there are raspberries growing near my house, and I was going to collect some and see if I can make anything good with them.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:04 am

The thing about art is that unless you are either a master or extremely original and good at what you do, it doesn't have very good return rates.

Foraging...just be very careful at what you pick, as it may be poisonous or otherwise inedible for humans.
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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:10 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:So, how do you guys apply libertarianism to your everyday life? It's more than discussing theoretics, you know. We share a lot in common with left-anarchists when it comes to direct action as a feasible alternative to electoral politics.

There are movements, for example, to attempt to live outside of what is called the "white market," to encourage for example, use of black and grey markets. Grey markets include using Uber and AirBnB, bitcoin, and other services that while tolerated by the state, are not endorsed. On the other hand, some libertarians actively embrace the black market, like the Silk Road had tried and succeeded for a while, and other illicit activities from sex work to smuggling - although I don't particularly endorse black market activities - just grey market ones, and I would encourage not bragging about it here on this site. :P Other barely tolerated measures include being self employed and working under the table and selling things on an open market like garage sales instead of buying from statist corporations.

Alternatively, routes that are traditionally embraced by the left include the "back to nature" types and self-sustainability - grow your own food! Grow vegetables, not government. Use solar power instead of buying power from some state backed corporation. Dig a well and gain water that way. Build your own home out of natural materials. Ever collected rain water? Illegal in some places you know, but you can do it. Live off the grid, basically.


In the past, I was a horticulturalist for a few years until I lost interest in that.

I am currently in the process of writing several books that involves the region I reside in, Zentari and the original nations of it (including mine). I have Zurkerx almost done (2/3) and will start another called Krukan once I am done with that.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:36 am

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Zurkerx wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:So, how do you guys apply libertarianism to your everyday life? It's more than discussing theoretics, you know. We share a lot in common with left-anarchists when it comes to direct action as a feasible alternative to electoral politics.

There are movements, for example, to attempt to live outside of what is called the "white market," to encourage for example, use of black and grey markets. Grey markets include using Uber and AirBnB, bitcoin, and other services that while tolerated by the state, are not endorsed. On the other hand, some libertarians actively embrace the black market, like the Silk Road had tried and succeeded for a while, and other illicit activities from sex work to smuggling - although I don't particularly endorse black market activities - just grey market ones, and I would encourage not bragging about it here on this site. :P Other barely tolerated measures include being self employed and working under the table and selling things on an open market like garage sales instead of buying from statist corporations.

Alternatively, routes that are traditionally embraced by the left include the "back to nature" types and self-sustainability - grow your own food! Grow vegetables, not government. Use solar power instead of buying power from some state backed corporation. Dig a well and gain water that way. Build your own home out of natural materials. Ever collected rain water? Illegal in some places you know, but you can do it. Live off the grid, basically.


In the past, I was a horticulturalist for a few years until I lost interest in that.

I am currently in the process of writing several books that involves the region I reside in, Zentari and the original nations of it (including mine). I have Zurkerx almost done (2/3) and will start another called Krukan once I am done with that.


Well good luck with that Zurkerx.
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:52 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:The thing about art is that unless you are either a master or extremely original and good at what you do, it doesn't have very good return rates.


I am pretty good at it. When the weather was good and nobody was tearing up the sidewalk next door or setting off bombs around the corner, I made enough to get by. I just didn't make enough to save up for the winter without dipping into savings from my old job, and then there were things like construction projects and the Marathon Bombing that got in the way. For a while, I thought maybe if I kept working at it -- figuring out what sold and what didn't, coming up with better art, finding other outlets for it during the winter (e.g. science fiction convention art shows) -- I might get to where I didn't need a day job. The bombing was when I sort of lost my faith in that, though I kept doing the street art for a while afterward.

Foraging...just be very careful at what you pick, as it may be poisonous or otherwise inedible for humans.


I've done some research about it and only pick things I recognize.
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Postby Community Values » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:25 pm

There's no anarchism thread (that I can find), so I'll assume this thread can apply for what I'll say.

Even though I'm not an anarchist, I have found that the N.A.P (Non Aggression Principle, for the few that don't know) to be somewhat of a social contract between all people, in the way that you are making a treaty with all other people that you won't hurt them if they don't hurt you, and therefore anarchism, would just be an extremely limited form of government with no officials. The same applies to left-anarchism, with the idea of common storage and such.

So I then started wondering what a better way to interpret anarchism as, and I may have come to some sort of a conclusion. What if we interpreted anarchism as the idea where each person is their own government, setting their own rules on what they can do or not, have their own territory (their lawns), and if someone decides to trespass on it, well I'm almost certain that the U.S wouldn't like it if Mexico marched soldiers into its borders. Thinking this way about anarchism has helped me explain some of the inconsistencies of the ideology, even if I don't believe in it.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:47 pm

Community Values wrote:There's no anarchism thread (that I can find), so I'll assume this thread can apply for what I'll say.

Even though I'm not an anarchist, I have found that the N.A.P (Non Aggression Principle, for the few that don't know) to be somewhat of a social contract between all people, in the way that you are making a treaty with all other people that you won't hurt them if they don't hurt you, and therefore anarchism, would just be an extremely limited form of government with no officials. The same applies to left-anarchism, with the idea of common storage and such.

So I then started wondering what a better way to interpret anarchism as, and I may have come to some sort of a conclusion. What if we interpreted anarchism as the idea where each person is their own government, setting their own rules on what they can do or not, have their own territory (their lawns), and if someone decides to trespass on it, well I'm almost certain that the U.S wouldn't like it if Mexico marched soldiers into its borders. Thinking this way about anarchism has helped me explain some of the inconsistencies of the ideology, even if I don't believe in it.

The problem with that arises when people start contradicting each other's laws.
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Postby Community Values » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:00 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Community Values wrote:There's no anarchism thread (that I can find), so I'll assume this thread can apply for what I'll say.

Even though I'm not an anarchist, I have found that the N.A.P (Non Aggression Principle, for the few that don't know) to be somewhat of a social contract between all people, in the way that you are making a treaty with all other people that you won't hurt them if they don't hurt you, and therefore anarchism, would just be an extremely limited form of government with no officials. The same applies to left-anarchism, with the idea of common storage and such.

So I then started wondering what a better way to interpret anarchism as, and I may have come to some sort of a conclusion. What if we interpreted anarchism as the idea where each person is their own government, setting their own rules on what they can do or not, have their own territory (their lawns), and if someone decides to trespass on it, well I'm almost certain that the U.S wouldn't like it if Mexico marched soldiers into its borders. Thinking this way about anarchism has helped me explain some of the inconsistencies of the ideology, even if I don't believe in it.

The problem with that arises when people start contradicting each other's laws.


Guns are a bit more legal in America than they are in Britain, those two laws contradict, but we don't see mass war because of it. I guess just know what you're getting into before entering another person's property?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:48 pm

Community Values wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The problem with that arises when people start contradicting each other's laws.


Guns are a bit more legal in America than they are in Britain, those two laws contradict, but we don't see mass war because of it. I guess just know what you're getting into before entering another person's property?

Laws between nations and laws between individuals (as you describe it) are vastly different.
For example, a country cannot receive inheritance, but an individual can. If people were allowed to make laws that applied only to themselves, we'd see people enforce their notion of justice onto each other immediately. The results would surely be chaotic.
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Dang. RIP Marc Allan Feldman. I was really hoping you would vie for the LP nomination in the future. A life snuffed out far too soon.
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Postby Narland » Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:10 am

Idzequitch wrote:Dang. RIP Marc Allan Feldman. I was really hoping you would vie for the LP nomination in the future. A life snuffed out far too soon.


As a physician I had hoped that he would have helped make significant contributions in returning the Medical System back to the People before it collapses in on itself. He seems to have died under strange circumstances. I hope he wasn't murdered.

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news ... 7b9c2.html

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:14 am

Idzequitch wrote:Dang. RIP Marc Allan Feldman. I was really hoping you would vie for the LP nomination in the future. A life snuffed out far too soon.

RIP. Very sad to see him gone so young.
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