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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:50 pm
by The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair

here is the image:(Image)

...no...why?

thanks,btw,i live in south east asia,you?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:27 am
by El-Amin Caliphate
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:...no...why?

thanks,btw,i live in south east asia,you?

No, USA.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:19 am
by Ghuraba Al-Khorusani
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair

here is the image:(Image)

Yes it is emulation of a kufar's (non-believers) hair style is Haram grow your hair like Muhammad's (SAAWS) which is a shoulder's length

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:38 am
by Senegalboy
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair

here is the image:(Image)

Yes it is emulation of a kufar's (non-believers) hair style is Haram grow your hair like Muhammad's (SAAWS) which is a shoulder's length

A problem.not all people's hair goes back and into the shoulders

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:40 am
by The Alma Mater
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair


Do you want the hairstyle to honour and worship him ?
Then perhaps.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:16 am
by El-Amin Caliphate
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair

here is the image:(Image)

Yes it is emulation of a kufar's (non-believers) hair style is Haram grow your hair like Muhammad's (SAAWS) which is a shoulder's length

We don't have to look like the Prophet (SAWS). Besides, many people have that hairstyle. This is not trying to look like anyone.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:52 am
by Ghuraba Al-Khorusani
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:Yes it is emulation of a kufar's (non-believers) hair style is Haram grow your hair like Muhammad's (SAAWS) which is a shoulder's length

We don't have to look like the Prophet (SAWS). Besides, many people have that hairstyle. This is not trying to look like anyone.

The scholars have all said making your hair look like a non-Muslim's is haram just grow it in a way that is natural or like Muhammad's (SAAWS) like my hair is quite long goes a bit pass my shoulders

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:57 am
by El-Amin Caliphate
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:We don't have to look like the Prophet (SAWS). Besides, many people have that hairstyle. This is not trying to look like anyone.

The scholars have all said making your hair look like a non-Muslim's is haram just grow it in a way that is natural or like Muhammad's (SAAWS) like my hair is quite long goes a bit pass my shoulders

I would agree that you shouldn't try to look like someone, but having a certain hairstyle isn't really trying to look like anyone - unless if that was one's goal of course. But the scholars' reason for it sounds strange.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:01 pm
by Ghuraba Al-Khorusani
Good examples
Image
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The Prophet – Allah bless and greet him – wore his hair long until his passing from this world, “from more than shoulder-length (fawqa al-jumma*) to short of the earlobes (dûna al-wafra**)” as narrated from ‘A’isha – Allah be well-pleased with her – by al-Tirmidhi (hasan sahîh gharîb). Al-Bara’ ibn ‘Azib said: “Never did I see anyone with head-and-shoulder hair (dhî limma***) look more more handsome with a red garment on than the Messenger of Allah, his hair over his shoulders (sha‘ruhu yadribu minkabayh), wide-shouldered, neither tall nor short.” (Muslim, Ahmad, and the Sunan except Ibn Majah)
Al-Qadi ‘Iyad said that the freely-hanging hair (sadl), forelock (nâsiya), and shoulder-length hair (jumma) were abrogated. At the time the Prophet – Allah bless and greet him – entered Makka, he was wearing his hair braided in four plaits (ghadâ’ir, dafâ’ir, ‘aqâ’is). Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (hasan gharîb, in some mss. gharîb only), Ibn Majah, Abu Dawud, and Ahmad, all four with the same chain graded “fair” (hasan) by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (10:304), a grading confirmed by Shaykh Shu‘ayb al-Arna’ut in his edition of al-Baghawi’s Sharh al-Sunna (12:97).

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:03 pm
by Ghuraba Al-Khorusani
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:The scholars have all said making your hair look like a non-Muslim's is haram just grow it in a way that is natural or like Muhammad's (SAAWS) like my hair is quite long goes a bit pass my shoulders

I would agree that you shouldn't try to look like someone, but having a certain hairstyle isn't really trying to look like anyone - unless if that was one's goal of course. But the scholars' reason for it sounds strange.

The scholars are the best source of guidance in the post Muhammad (SAAWS) world they have studied Islam literally for decades and die studying it Muhammad (SAAWS) said "If you don't seak knowledge in your youth but rather in your old age and die studying the deen you will have died as a martyr"

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:15 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I would agree that you shouldn't try to look like someone, but having a certain hairstyle isn't really trying to look like anyone - unless if that was one's goal of course. But the scholars' reason for it sounds strange.

The scholars are the best source of guidance in the post Muhammad (SAAWS) world they have studied Islam literally for decades and die studying it Muhammad (SAAWS) said "If you don't seak knowledge in your youth but rather in your old age and die studying the deen you will have died as a martyr"

That quote is cool :)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:58 pm
by Senegalboy
My hair is a bit shorter than the first example but really no difference

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:20 pm
by Alsheb
Are we seriously discussing the theological implications of hairstyles? Like... For reeal? We don't have anything more important or substantial to talk about but a person's hair? My God...
Islam teaches nothing about hairstyle, there is no rule about hairstyle, the Qur'an doesn't say anything about haitstyle. Wear your hair however you want it. That's all, end of story, moving on.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:26 pm
by Senegalboy
Ok so how is everyone

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:52 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate
Senegalboy wrote:Ok so how is everyone

I'm cool. I moved to the United Empire of Islam. How are you?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:05 pm
by Senegalboy
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Senegalboy wrote:Ok so how is everyone

I'm cool. I moved to the United Empire of Islam. How are you?

The UEI i used to be there

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:30 pm
by Communist Xomaniax
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair

here is the image:(Image)

Yes it is emulation of a kufar's (non-believers) hair style is Haram grow your hair like Muhammad's (SAAWS) which is a shoulder's length

Image

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:06 pm
by The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway
The Alma Mater wrote:
The Scandinavian Kingdom Of Norway wrote:Is it haram if i make my hair look like Arturo Vidal's hair


Do you want the hairstyle to honour and worship him ?
Then perhaps.

nope,i'm not worshiping him.

FOOTBALL IS PEACE.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:13 pm
by Czervenika
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:Good examples
(Image)


Is it bad that I thought more about how gorgeous this man is?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:04 pm
by New haven america
Czervenika wrote:
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:Good examples
(Image)


Is it bad that I thought more about how gorgeous this man is?

Well, he is.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:36 pm
by The Alma Mater
Alsheb wrote:Are we seriously discussing the theological implications of hairstyles? Like... For reeal? We don't have anything more important or substantial to talk about but a person's hair? My God...


Hair is incredibly important in many religions. Shave it off and lose your power. Ask Samson. Or any Sikh ;)
So it seems a fair - and rather interesting - discussion.

And I admit liking some of the hairstyles posted here and needing to visit a barber soon anyway :P

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:53 am
by The Servants OF Allah
Asalam Walekum to all

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:13 am
by Herskerstad
Ghuraba Al-Khorusani wrote:Good examples
(Image)
(Image)
The Prophet – Allah bless and greet him – wore his hair long until his passing from this world, “from more than shoulder-length (fawqa al-jumma*) to short of the earlobes (dûna al-wafra**)” as narrated from ‘A’isha – Allah be well-pleased with her – by al-Tirmidhi (hasan sahîh gharîb). Al-Bara’ ibn ‘Azib said: “Never did I see anyone with head-and-shoulder hair (dhî limma***) look more more handsome with a red garment on than the Messenger of Allah, his hair over his shoulders (sha‘ruhu yadribu minkabayh), wide-shouldered, neither tall nor short.” (Muslim, Ahmad, and the Sunan except Ibn Majah)
Al-Qadi ‘Iyad said that the freely-hanging hair (sadl), forelock (nâsiya), and shoulder-length hair (jumma) were abrogated. At the time the Prophet – Allah bless and greet him – entered Makka, he was wearing his hair braided in four plaits (ghadâ’ir, dafâ’ir, ‘aqâ’is). Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (hasan gharîb, in some mss. gharîb only), Ibn Majah, Abu Dawud, and Ahmad, all four with the same chain graded “fair” (hasan) by Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari (10:304), a grading confirmed by Shaykh Shu‘ayb al-Arna’ut in his edition of al-Baghawi’s Sharh al-Sunna (12:97).


Ah, Adam Choudry himself. The greatest intellectual troglodyte of the age.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:57 am
by Menassa
Salam Aleykum and Ramadan Kareem to all my Muslim friends.

But of course, I do not come without inquiry.

http://www.judaism-islam.com/the-islami ... f-judaism/

After reading through the article on the website, I was wondering if this was the mainstream opinion of Islam or just the staff of the Website, I thought what better place to ask then here?

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:07 am
by Nioya
I'm not a muslim, but actually I wanna study the hadith. Is there any book I could get on it or something? How should I study it?

I'd like to read books about hadith in general, but I'm aware there are debates about certain controversial teachings in the hadith. General western criticisms of islam and all that jazz. I'd also like to read about that stuff, things that address those issues.