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Eclius
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Oldest Nation on Nation States?

Postby Eclius » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:10 pm

So, I've been seeing a lot really old nations like the The Provisional Government of Northrop-Grumman who was founded in 2003, but the question is, who's the oldest nation on Nation States? And how old exactly is this website?
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:36 pm

There are a few from 2003 left (me included) and I believe there may be a few from late 2002, when the game went online.
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The Guangxi Clique
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Postby The Guangxi Clique » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:42 pm

was NS 2 ever a thing? I've seen a few snapshots on wayback. man, looked...weird.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:43 pm

The Guangxi Clique wrote:was NS 2 ever a thing? I've seen a few snapshots on wayback. man, looked...weird.

It failed spectacularly, as I understand.
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Postby The Corparation » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:45 pm

The Guangxi Clique wrote:was NS 2 ever a thing? I've seen a few snapshots on wayback. man, looked...weird.

NS 2 was a thing. If you know anything about NS's history with Jolt you can work out for yourself as to how it ended.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:46 pm

The Guangxi Clique wrote:was NS 2 ever a thing? I've seen a few snapshots on wayback. man, looked...weird.


We do not talk about NS2. :unsure:
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Postby The Guangxi Clique » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:49 pm

The Corparation wrote:
The Guangxi Clique wrote:was NS 2 ever a thing? I've seen a few snapshots on wayback. man, looked...weird.

NS 2 was a thing. If you know anything about NS's history with Jolt you can work out for yourself as to how it ended.

it flopped like a fat guy into a vat of custard, I presume. Also extrapolating that Jolt are/is incompetent.
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Postby Knootoss » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:49 pm

I'll be the oldest one day. Just waiting for the older ones to die off. :p

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Seventh Oblivion
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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:49 pm

From my understanding, and from data on NSEconomy, Kyupaa is the nation with the highest population, which means they most likely founded first. They have a population of 29.053 billion.

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/populations.php - This is the page with the highest populations on NS.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:51 pm

Oldest? What? *snore*
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:55 pm

Knootoss wrote:I'll be the oldest one day. Just waiting for the older ones to die off. :p


The Black Forrest wrote:Oldest? What? *snore*


I am June '03. You two?
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Reploid Productions
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:03 pm

Seventh Oblivion wrote:From my understanding, and from data on NSEconomy, Kyupaa is the nation with the highest population, which means they most likely founded first. They have a population of 29.053 billion.

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/populations.php - This is the page with the highest populations on NS.

Population isn't a 100% indicator of age, actually. After you've been around a bit, your population increases randomly between like 5-7mil a day, not a set rate. So it's possible for a nation founded a few days later than another to end up with a slightly higher population than the older one. Additionally, nations that have timed out and later been resurrected don't get population for the time they were inactive. A 2003 nation that CTEd for a couple of years and later came back would have a much smaller population than a 2003 nation from the same time that was active the entire time. (For example, my nation turns 13 at the end of March this year, and I've got north of 28 billion population... my nation has been active the entire time.)
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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:06 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:From my understanding, and from data on NSEconomy, Kyupaa is the nation with the highest population, which means they most likely founded first. They have a population of 29.053 billion.

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/populations.php - This is the page with the highest populations on NS.

Population isn't a 100% indicator of age, actually. After you've been around a bit, your population increases randomly between like 5-7mil a day, not a set rate. So it's possible for a nation founded a few days later than another to end up with a slightly higher population than the older one. Additionally, nations that have timed out and later been resurrected don't get population for the time they were inactive. A 2003 nation that CTEd for a couple of years and later came back would have a much smaller population than a 2003 nation from the same time that was active the entire time. (For example, my nation turns 13 at the end of March this year, and I've got north of 28 billion population... my nation has been active the entire time.)


I suppose so, good point. Is there any way a moderator or an administrator could find the oldest nation on the site? The very first recorded founding on the game?
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The Black Forrest
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:09 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Knootoss wrote:I'll be the oldest one day. Just waiting for the older ones to die off. :p


The Black Forrest wrote:Oldest? What? *snore*


I am June '03. You two?


I have forgotten that......
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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Reploid Productions
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:13 pm

Seventh Oblivion wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Population isn't a 100% indicator of age, actually. After you've been around a bit, your population increases randomly between like 5-7mil a day, not a set rate. So it's possible for a nation founded a few days later than another to end up with a slightly higher population than the older one. Additionally, nations that have timed out and later been resurrected don't get population for the time they were inactive. A 2003 nation that CTEd for a couple of years and later came back would have a much smaller population than a 2003 nation from the same time that was active the entire time. (For example, my nation turns 13 at the end of March this year, and I've got north of 28 billion population... my nation has been active the entire time.)


I suppose so, good point. Is there any way a moderator or an administrator could find the oldest nation on the site? The very first recorded founding on the game?

Probably not very easily. It wasn't until late 2003 or maybe partway into 2004 I think that the game even recorded founding dates, that's why us oldies have a founding date of "Antiquity." I would imagine the very first nation was probably Maxtopia, or maybe Testlandia. :P
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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:23 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:
I suppose so, good point. Is there any way a moderator or an administrator could find the oldest nation on the site? The very first recorded founding on the game?

Probably not very easily. It wasn't until late 2003 or maybe partway into 2004 I think that the game even recorded founding dates, that's why us oldies have a founding date of "Antiquity." I would imagine the very first nation was probably Maxtopia, or maybe Testlandia. :P


I wish I had created a nation way back then, It would be so cool to have 'Antiquity' as a founding date.
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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:24 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:
I suppose so, good point. Is there any way a moderator or an administrator could find the oldest nation on the site? The very first recorded founding on the game?

Probably not very easily. It wasn't until late 2003 or maybe partway into 2004 I think that the game even recorded founding dates, that's why us oldies have a founding date of "Antiquity." I would imagine the very first nation was probably Maxtopia, or maybe Testlandia. :P

End of November 2003 or thereabouts.

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Big Jim P
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:33 pm

Seventh Oblivion wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Probably not very easily. It wasn't until late 2003 or maybe partway into 2004 I think that the game even recorded founding dates, that's why us oldies have a founding date of "Antiquity." I would imagine the very first nation was probably Maxtopia, or maybe Testlandia. :P


I wish I had created a nation way back then, It would be so cool to have 'Antiquity' as a founding date.


I still have antiquity puppets. :D
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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:34 pm

Seventh Oblivion wrote:From my understanding, and from data on NSEconomy, Kyupaa is the nation with the highest population, which means they most likely founded first. They have a population of 29.053 billion.

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/populations.php - This is the page with the highest populations on NS.

There was also the pop-bug which throws it off. I asked Kyupaa a while ago when he founded and (I think) he said Jan 2003. We've still got 2002 nations around, so he isn't the oldest.

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Seventh Oblivion
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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:36 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:From my understanding, and from data on NSEconomy, Kyupaa is the nation with the highest population, which means they most likely founded first. They have a population of 29.053 billion.

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/populations.php - This is the page with the highest populations on NS.

There was also the pop-bug which throws it off. I asked Kyupaa a while ago when he founded and (I think) he said Jan 2003. We've still got 2002 nations around, so he isn't the oldest.

Okay thanks for clarifying that for me :)
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Seventh Oblivion
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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:37 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:
I wish I had created a nation way back then, It would be so cool to have 'Antiquity' as a founding date.


I still have antiquity puppets. :D


Wow :p
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Little Jim P
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Postby Little Jim P » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:39 pm

Seventh Oblivion wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I still have antiquity puppets. :D


Wow :p


Impressive. I know.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:41 pm

im 2007 :D dang...that's a long time ago...
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:42 pm

North Calaveras wrote:im 2007 :D dang...that's a long time ago...

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Postby Seventh Oblivion » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:42 pm

Little Jim P wrote:
Seventh Oblivion wrote:
Wow :p


Impressive. I know.

I see where Reploid is coming from now with the whole refounding thing. You have 5 billion + yet you founded in 'Antiquity.'
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