by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:48 am
by Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:49 am
by Telmatherina » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:51 am
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:52 am
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:53 am
Talvezout wrote:We already have a gender-neutral pronoun though, they.
They /ðeɪ/ is the third-person plural personal pronoun (subjective case) in Modern English. It can also be used with singular meaning, particularly in informal contexts, sometimes to avoid specifying the gender of the person referred to.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:54 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Talvezout wrote:We already have a gender-neutral pronoun though, they.
The problem with ''they'' is that it is too strongly associated with the plural sense
A quick google searchThey /ðeɪ/ is the third-person plural personal pronoun (subjective case) in Modern English. It can also be used with singular meaning, particularly in informal contexts, sometimes to avoid specifying the gender of the person referred to.
If you want to amp up and promote the use of the word ''they'' in formal contexts, I would support you. But as things stand right now, it doesn't have sufficient established use.
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:55 am
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:One word: they.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:56 am
by Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:56 am
by Talvezout » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:56 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Talvezout wrote:We already have a gender-neutral pronoun though, they.
The problem with ''they'' is that it is too strongly associated with the plural sense
A quick google searchThey /ðeɪ/ is the third-person plural personal pronoun (subjective case) in Modern English. It can also be used with singular meaning, particularly in informal contexts, sometimes to avoid specifying the gender of the person referred to.
If you want to amp up and promote the use of the word ''they'' in formal contexts, I would support you. But as things stand right now, it doesn't have sufficient established use.
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:57 am
Conserative Morality wrote:Anyone who objects to the singular they can get the fuck out of my English language.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:58 am
Vassenor wrote:Pretty sure using "one" as a pronoun just makes you sound pretentious.
by Conserative Morality » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:59 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:It says on wikipedia
''The singular they is the use of this pronoun as a gender-neutral singular rather than as a plural pronoun. The correctness of this usage is disputed.''
Which is why I think we need to push back harder. Rather than just playing by their rules and using ''they,'' we should introduce a new pronoun and reinforce it upon the population.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:59 am
by Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:00 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:00 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:It says on wikipedia
''The singular they is the use of this pronoun as a gender-neutral singular rather than as a plural pronoun. The correctness of this usage is disputed.''
Yeah, those people can fuck off. Was I not clear?Which is why I think we need to push back harder. Rather than just playing by their rules and using ''they,'' we should introduce a new pronoun and reinforce it upon the population.
Fuck no. That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:00 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:Yeah, those people can fuck off. Was I not clear?
Fuck no. That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week.
At this point I feel that the English language as it currently exists, may be too deeply steeped in sexist rhetoric to be salvaged by words in the existing domain; what may well be needed is for someone to break the wheel, shake up the table, and introduce some new elements into the system to change the starting assumptions
by Greater Allidron » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 pm
by Bogdanov Vishniac » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 pm
by Vassenor » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:02 pm
by The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:02 pm
Vassenor wrote:So this is another "we need change for the sake of having change" thread?
by Infected Mushroom » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:03 pm
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
As of now, the use of the word ''they'' in its singular sense is only informal, and not formal. It will take time as well as a social movement to transform it into mainstream use in its singular gender-neutral sense.
Because this requires a fucking social movement like it's MLK all over again.
What's that bullshit about they not being mainstream? People use our inn singular all the time.
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