Deteriorating Race Relations in 21st Century America

[Ugatoo]

Not so much segregation as not "interbreeding"

"Seperate but Equal" was Segregation and has nothing to do with that, it was a policy by Southern States that set up Jim Crow Laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

I love talking to Americans they believe their own propaganda so much.

[Lady Scylla]

"Seperate but Equal" was Segregation and has nothing to do with that, it was a policy by Southern States that set up Jim Crow Laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

I love talking to Americans they believe their own propaganda so much.

I'm not a Yank, but nice job jumping to conclusions, mate. Bravo!

[The balkens]

"Seperate but Equal" was Segregation and has nothing to do with that, it was a policy by Southern States that set up Jim Crow Laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

I love talking to Americans they believe their own propaganda so much.

Not propaganda, History.

[Gauthier]

"Seperate but Equal" was Segregation and has nothing to do with that, it was a policy by Southern States that set up Jim Crow Laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

I love talking to Americans they believe their own propaganda so much.

Documented history is propaganda. You heard it first here folks!

[Crusader occupied mecca]

We trained them to be like that by rewarding riots, abandoning your family, etc. It's like Pavlov's dog, they associate dysfunctional behavior with that nice juicy welfare check, as well as affirmative action, etc. The problem is that now its hard wired into the culture so even the ones that want to work hard and talk normal and contribute and succeed can't because they'll be ostracized by their families and communities for acting white.

Filthy niggers, amirite?

More like filthy race-baiting liberals, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Christainville]

The issue is, we are focusing on race relations, that their should be a code of conduct because some one is black, white, Asian, or Spanish in decent? Really, that's still going on in the 21st century. If anyone actually pays any attention to the history of civil rights, it will be noted that two of the greatest activists for minority advancement were both killed when they began to reach across the isle and look outside of a skin color. As long as Malcom X promoted a black power world he lived, not too long after he looked outside of that he was killed. The same can be said about Martin Luther King Jr, once his goal was realized to not just bring African Americans to a table, but to have a world where all colors were just that, colors, and not the identity of people, not too long after, he was killed.

I work with people of all races, we all get along great, some come from different backgrounds, some come from similar, but we don't see each other as a color or a race, we see ourselves as people. Yet, in my field, I have to work with different communities, and some of the hardest to deal with are African American ones, and I say this as a African American. They don't want to get involved or better their local areas because they will have to deal with white people, they say it themselves, they do not want white people moving into their communities. They even state that if white people move in they will commit genocide against them. Yet, they have African Americans in their areas, who steal from their fellow African Americans, sell hard drugs, heroin, cocaine; have went as far as to prostitute their own kids for extra money, are allowed to stay because they keep white people from moving into a house, they literally say that. I have to take a hands off approach when they rely this tot me because its their area, so its little I can do when they feel this way, thing is, 85% of them were born way after the civil rights era, you do a search, none of them have a criminal record, so no police offense have been done to them, but they scream and yell over things some one else told them, people prey off their own personal ignorance and they allow it.

Racism is a two fold side, to be racist, some one has to accept you as racist. Right now, its more about domination, then equality, about who will win between who is black, and who is white, and I feel sorry for other African American's who haven't woke up and seen the truth yet. The fact you cling to be a "minority", that you accept the term of being minor, already gives you a losing end. Until we change the idea of trying to over power a race when we are not even the largest demographic compared to those of Asian and Spanish decent, we will never move forward, and as long as we keep trying to have a feud with people who equal a actual minority, we won't ever gain ground with the people who would support us. As much as we would hate being targeted, how would we like being labeled automatically racist due to your skin color, its a two way street. Until the day, your skin color isn't your identity, and you find your self based as a human being, racism will always exist.

[Hyfling]

I took BLM seriously until they started acting like a bunch of morons. They don't live up to anything close of what MLK did.

I cringe every time one of their members tries to compare themselves to MLK, especially since it appears a big chunk of them didn't take on board a single thing he said.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like. He was a rabble-rouser, a hardcore activist, a democratic socialist, a fiery preacher, a radical crusader, a fierce defender of the poor and the disenfranchised, and a man willing to put his body, his life, and his freedom on the line in order to ensure freedom for others, but he wasn't this meek, saintly figure that we keep on throwing in the faces of the black community while saying "Why can't you be more like him?". Let's not forget that in his day, he was accused of absolutely everything that BLM activists currently stand accused of, including exacerbating racial tensions, trying to put black lives over white ones, and inspiring riots through the use of incendiary rhetoric (despite the fact that he deplored riots). Seriously, can we not see how this manages to be simultaneously condescending, patronizing, and historically illiterate?

[Eol Sha]

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like. He was a rabble-rouser, a hardcore activist, a democratic socialist, a fiery preacher, a radical crusader, a fierce defender of the poor and the disenfranchised, and a man willing to put his body, his life, and his freedom on the line in order to ensure freedom for others, but he wasn't this meek, saintly figure that we keep on throwing in the faces of the black community while saying "Why can't you be more like him?". Let's not forget that in his day, he was accused of absolutely everything that BLM activists currently stand accused of, including exacerbating racial tensions, trying to put black lives over white ones, and inspiring riots through the use of incendiary rhetoric (despite the fact that he deplored riots). Seriously, can we not see how this manages to be simultaneously condescending, patronizing, and historically illiterate?

Its not surprising. Schools barely have enough time in the year to even reach the 1960s in history classes. Let alone properly teach what was actually going on and being said during that era.

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like....but he wasn't this meek, saintly figure that we keep on throwing in the faces of the black community while saying "Why can't you be more like him?".

I think the clothing worn by marchers, namely "church attire", plays a part in this. Look at old pictures of the CRM marches and you'll see people dressed in suits and other forms of nice clothing. Compare that to what you see in protests today (hoodies, t-shirts, etc.) and a certain level of sophistication and maturity is seemingly lost.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like. He was a rabble-rouser, a hardcore activist, a democratic socialist, a fiery preacher, a radical crusader, a fierce defender of the poor and the disenfranchised, and a man willing to put his body, his life, and his freedom on the line in order to ensure freedom for others, but he wasn't this meek, saintly figure that we keep on throwing in the faces of the black community while saying "Why can't you be more like him?". Let's not forget that in his day, he was accused of absolutely everything that BLM activists currently stand accused of, including exacerbating racial tensions, trying to put black lives over white ones, and inspiring riots through the use of incendiary rhetoric (despite the fact that he deplored riots). Seriously, can we not see how this manages to be simultaneously condescending, patronizing, and historically illiterate?

Its not surprising. Schools barely have enough time in the year to even reach the 1960s in history classes. Let alone properly teach what was actually going on and being said during that era.

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like....but he wasn't this meek, saintly figure that we keep on throwing in the faces of the black community while saying "Why can't you be more like him?".

I think the clothing worn by marchers, namely "church attire", plays a part in this. Look at old pictures of the CRM marches and you'll see people dressed in suits and other forms of nice clothing. Compare that to what you see in protests today (hoodies, t-shirts, etc.) and a certain level of sophistication and maturity is seemingly lost.

People wore suits at the time because that's what people tended to wear in their day-to-day lives. That's no longer the case. Dressing up in suits now would be like going in costume. People, both white and black, now wear hoodies and t-shirts when out and about, and judging them based on wearing what people normally wear nowadays is simply ridiculous.

EDIT: By way of example, here's a picture of a Black Lives Matter protest. Here's a picture of the famous Selma march. Notice that the people on the right in the second photo are dressed just as casually as the people in the first photo by the standards of that time.

[Geilinor]

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like.

That's not the point. If you look at MLK's speeches and organizational skill, that's something you don't generally see with BLM.

[Eol Sha]

Its not surprising. Schools barely have enough time in the year to even reach the 1960s in history classes. Let alone properly teach what was actually going on and being said during that era.


I think the clothing worn by marchers, namely "church attire", plays a part in this. Look at old pictures of the CRM marches and you'll see people dressed in suits and other forms of nice clothing. Compare that to what you see in protests today (hoodies, t-shirts, etc.) and a certain level of sophistication and maturity is seemingly lost.

People wore suits at the time because that's what people tended to wear in their day-to-day lives. That's no longer the case. Dressing up in suits now would be like going in costume. People, both white and black, now wear hoodies and t-shirts when out and about, and judging them based on wearing what people normally wear nowadays is simply ridiculous.

Its just my personal opinion, but seeing photos of people marching in suits, dress shirts, and church dresses makes the whole think look more professional and mature.

judging them based on wearing what people normally wear nowadays is simply ridiculous.

Of course. I'm just stating a first impression. To anyone taking a quick glance at photos of BLM protests and comparing them to photos from the 1960s, they easily look more "rabble rousy" and less organized than photos of the CRM marches. Some of them, anyway.

EDIT: By way of example, here's a picture of a Black Lives Matter protest. Here's a picture of the famous Selma march. Notice that the people on the right in the second photo are dressed just as casually as the people in the first photo by the standards of that time.

I don't particularly think so, but that's just me.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I think that white people need to stop using MLK as some sort of holy example of what a well-behaved black person looks like.

That's not the point. MLK was successful, which BLM activists will only be if they can condemn the most radical parts of their movement.

Did MLK condemn the most radical parts of the Civil Rights movement? He stated disagreement with their tactics. Did the most radical parts of the Civil Rights movement not also have some successes, at least until COINTELPRO got to them?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

People wore suits at the time because that's what people tended to wear in their day-to-day lives. That's no longer the case. Dressing up in suits now would be like going in costume. People, both white and black, now wear hoodies and t-shirts when out and about, and judging them based on wearing what people normally wear nowadays is simply ridiculous.

Its just my personal opinion, but seeing photos of people marching in suits, dress shirts, and church dresses makes the whole think look more professional and mature.

judging them based on wearing what people normally wear nowadays is simply ridiculous.

Of course. I'm just stating a first impression. To anyone taking a quick glance at photos of BLM protests and comparing them to photos from the 1960s, they easily look more "rabble rousy" and less organized than photos of the CRM marches. Some of them, anyway.

Check out the photos I linked to in my edit of the post.

[Eol Sha]

Its just my personal opinion, but seeing photos of people marching in suits, dress shirts, and church dresses makes the whole think look more professional and mature.


Of course. I'm just stating a first impression. To anyone taking a quick glance at photos of BLM protests and comparing them to photos from the 1960s, they easily look more "rabble rousy" and less organized than photos of the CRM marches. Some of them, anyway.

Check out the photos I linked to in my edit of the post.

I edited my post.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

I think the clothing worn by marchers, namely "church attire", plays a part in this. Look at old pictures of the CRM marches and you'll see people dressed in suits and other forms of nice clothing. Compare that to what you see in protests today (hoodies, t-shirts, etc.) and a certain level of sophistication and maturity is seemingly lost.

This is classic respectability politics in action. Doubly so considering that the hoodie has been crafted into the right's catch-all image of the urban African-American poor and deliberately cast as being 'thuggish'. That's why it appears 'unsophisticated' to you - you've had that imagery drummed into you for so long that you've unconsciously adopted it's biases.

[Eol Sha]

I think the clothing worn by marchers, namely "church attire", plays a part in this. Look at old pictures of the CRM marches and you'll see people dressed in suits and other forms of nice clothing. Compare that to what you see in protests today (hoodies, t-shirts, etc.) and a certain level of sophistication and maturity is seemingly lost.

This is classic respectability politics in action. Doubly so considering that the hoodie has been crafted into the right's catch-all image of the urban African-American poor and deliberately cast as being 'thuggish'. That's why it appears 'unsophisticated' to you - you've had that imagery drummed into you for so long that you've unconsciously adopted it's biases.

While I won't deny the possibility that you're correct, at least to a degree, I personally love wearing hoodies.

[Kelinfort]

Filthy niggers, amirite?

More like filthy race-baiting liberals, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

You compared black people to dogs, not me.

[Autonomous Titoists]

More like filthy race-baiting liberals, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

You compared black people to dogs, not me.

Yeah and you accurately criticized what he said so clearly you're in the wrong. /sarcasm

[Liberty and Linguistics]

More like filthy race-baiting liberals, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

You compared black people to dogs, not me.

Kelinfort, do you not put your negroes on a leash?

God, fucking liberals can't keep their black pets down.

[Gauthier]

You compared black people to dogs, not me.

Kelinfort, do you not put your negroes on a leash?

God, fucking liberals can't keep their black pets down.

Remember folks, anyone calling those remarks racist is just an effeminate SJW. *nod nod*

[Lydenburg]

Every American you've spoken to thinks you people's race relations are going to shit?

I'll believe it when they start reaching the levels of RSA. Where an interracial couple still causes so many heads to turn in shock that people don't watch where they're going and smack into things.

Let me tell you something mate. In my year in the U.S. I saw better race relations and more mixing of more ethnic groups than I ever saw, in any other country, in my lifetime. Do you know how many places I've worked in, lived in, and travelled to that would kill to have something approaching the racial harmony of the U.S.?

Things aren't perfect anywhere. There are some tragic riots, racial profiling, and a legacy of social inequality associated with race in North America. But be thankful you get to live in a country where these things make the news and are becoming the exception rather than the rule.

[Obexer]

Every American you've spoken to thinks you people's race relations are going to shit?

I'm kind of thinking we all have short memories, or like to complain, or even like to think the worst is happening to the country. I feel like the general feeling of this era is one of unearned cynicism--yes, things aren't great. No, that doesn't mean society is suddenly going to implode.

[Alien Space Bats]

We trained them to be like that by rewarding riots, abandoning your family, etc. It's like Pavlov's dog, they associate dysfunctional behavior with that nice juicy welfare check, as well as affirmative action, etc. The problem is that now its hard wired into the culture so even the ones that want to work hard and talk normal and contribute and succeed can't because they'll be ostracized by their families and communities for acting white.

You should get out more. Or watch Anthony Bourdain's "Parts Unknown", Season 2, Episode 8, subtitled "Detroit".

[Roasaria]

I have a plan that both anti-rascists and [drunktard] extremists will like. What if we divided the world into white and non-white areas, and fund refugees to get a home in non white countries, then we can protect every race, and stop extremisim. In a way its like peaceful aparthied, without the rascism, non whites are allowed to go to white countries, and whites to non white countries, but would both be forbidden from living there. Heres a map of my idea, Im not rascist, its just an idea. I believe that if non white countries now days can restrict whites from living there, we can do the same. I don't mean to offend anyone :


http://imgur.com/qAweHVM


Blue= White
White= NonWhite