Islamic Pre-school opens in Sweden

[Kaitjan]

In the northern land of Sweden there is much rejoicing in the town of Skövde. A new Islamic pre-school is about to open.

"The need for a pre-school with an islamic orientation is very big" says Ali Liaquat, one of the people in the organisation behind the school.

"It is important with a diversity of available pre-schools" says Paula Bäckman (Central Party), chairman of Barn-och-utbildningsnämden (can't find the proper translation, basically a department in charge of children and education.)

Is there reason to be happy over the establishment of a Islamic private school in Sweden? Will this serve to better integrate Muslims into Swedish society, or will it just further serve to divide society and possibly even be a step in what some people call an Islamisation of Sweden?

http://www.skovdenyheter.se/article/forst-med-islamisk-inriktning/

I could only find this article in Swedish, but maybe there are some ways to translate it. I don't know. I did my best to translate two of the more notable quotes from the article for NS.

[Royal Denmark]

I think most swedes are happy with their religious stance as it is. Maybe a few hundred might convert, you never know.

[Kractero]

Depends on the mindset of the teachers. No radicalized people, please.

They are just preschoolers.

[The Great Filipino Empire]

No Child Should be forced into any religion.

[Kaitjan]

The big question is - is it wise to have a education with a religious flavour in a modern country in 2015?

I think not, no matter whether the teachers are radicals or "moderates".

[Alyakia]

if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century

[Kaitjan]

No Child Should be forced into any religion.

As I understand it the kids there will be those from Muslim families anyway, but its still pretty shitty that they will have to deal with religion in school as well. I doubt this will help integration or assimilation.

[Kaitjan]

if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century

I do oppose all religious education in schools.

[Val Halla]

It's not really a big deal

[Ifreann]

I'm sure Swedish parents appreciate having a choice of pre-schools they could send their children to. Not sure why any of us would care.

[Royal Denmark]

The big question is - is it wise to have a education with a religious flavour in a modern country in 2015?

I think not, no matter whether the teachers are radicals or "moderates".

Id say so, its probably a good way to avoid prejudice, being as they're surrounded by peers with the same religion. But as I said, we'll have to see. These are answers that only time can tell,as far as my Schizophrenia can tell.

[Crezilivion]

This is what google said that it said, in case someone can't translate it.

"Behind the nursery is a staff cooperative economic association. The association runs a few years ago a nursery school in Falkirk. Now they want to establish themselves in Skövde, too.

- The need for a preschool with Islamic orientation is huge, said Liaqat Ali, one of the members of the Board and preschool director.

Now looking for a local association and according to Ali Liaqat will be establishing itself in Southern Ryd. The plan is to start next fall.

The school will accept 38 students and have scientific profile with Islamic orientation

Children and Education sees the establishment as a contribution to broadening the supply of pre-school activities.

- Preschool molecule is as welcome as any other independent kindergartens as long as they meet the criteria set out in the Education Act, says Paula Bäckman.

Skövde Municipality's lawyer has made a so-called conduct examination of the economic association and its members. There are times when an independent school to start. It checks that the representatives are not committed crimes or have any financial burdens.

The examination showed that one of the directors has nine credit, the residual input tax totaling 140 000 crowns.

"Being a board member has such extensive credit history is an aggravating circumstance," writes jurist in a statement. At the same time pointed out that the Board no longer has an active role in the association. It takes the committee members on board.

- There is nothing in the officials' assessment that we politicians think should have been done differently, says Paula Bäckman."

[Herrebrugh]

I'd prefer there to be no religious schools at all, but if Christian (pre-)schools are allowed, then Islamic ones should be as well.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I'd prefer there to be no religious schools at all, but if Christian (pre-)schools are allowed, then Islamic ones should be as well.

Somehow I take this thread will be abused by some posters as an example of Sweden being "too" open, but given our species inherent irrationality it doesn't matter anymore. As for the bolded I am in agreement.

[Dooom35796821595]

I'm sure Swedish parents appreciate having a choice of pre-schools they could send their children to. Not sure why any of us would care.

And I'm sure the intelligence agencies are recording who attends, who sends their children, and who teaches.

...wait, does Sweden have Intelligence agencies?

[Ifreann]

I'm sure Swedish parents appreciate having a choice of pre-schools they could send their children to. Not sure why any of us would care.

And I'm sure the intelligence agencies are recording who attends, who sends their children, and who teaches.

...wait, does Sweden have Intelligence agencies?

They're called the PC Police.

[Zoice]

if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century

I don't like the idea of any religious schools at all. Just go to church, we need more secularism and separation of religion from everything else, not less.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

And I'm sure the intelligence agencies are recording who attends, who sends their children, and who teaches.

...wait, does Sweden have Intelligence agencies?

They're called the PC Police.

Shame.

When did computers need their own police force I mean things aren't that bad? I get regulating the deep web for all its insidious activities, but this just seems unfair to monitor computers alone, and not the internet.

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century

I don't like the idea of any religious schools at all. Just go to church, we need more secularism and separation of religion from everything else, not less.

Kind of hard for a Muslim to go to a church unless it was an interfaith exercise.

[Herrebrugh]

if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century

I don't like the idea of any religious schools at all. Just go to church, we need more secularism and separation of religion from everything else, not less.

The level of secularism in Sweden hasn't changed because of this.

[Dooom35796821595]

They're called the PC Police.

Shame.

When did computers need their own police force I mean things aren't that bad. I get regulating the deep web for all its insidious activities, but this just seems unfair to monitor computers alone, and not the internet.

Not to mention discriminatory, there are more then PCs.

[Jersey Republic]

Well as long as they don't preach radical islamisism

[The Hobbesian Metaphysician]

I don't like the idea of any religious schools at all. Just go to church, we need more secularism and separation of religion from everything else, not less.

The level of secularism in Sweden hasn't changed because of this.

Depends.

If one were to believe in a less moderate form of secularism then perhaps they could make an argument as to why it is changing.

[Ifreann]

Well as long as they don't preach radical islamisism

It's a pre-school. They're more likely to be teaching radical shapes and colours.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I don't like this, but on the same grounds I don't like any religious school before teenage years