All Cars Should Be Tracked and Locked

[Infected Mushroom]

It is not a waste of time to try and prevent tens of thousands of deaths annually.

No one said it can be done just overnight. But it's a far better use of public resources than funding random military deployments across the world for prestige points.

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

[South West African States]

what if ur a little drunk and have to drive to the hospital to save your life

Plus tracking devices should be outlawed for law abiding citizens

[Western Pacific Territories]

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

But tacos are delicious and not hard to make en masse.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It is clear that you don't care that tens of thousands of preventable deaths happen every year or to the limited extent that you do, you are more concerned about sticking it to the government than coming up with solutions

I think we're just more concerned about our location being broadcast at all times so that a bad person, government employee or hacker, could use that information to victimize us.

I'm more concerned about the obvious and intentional consequence that the government would know where I went in my vehicle all the time.

Because, no. Fuck that.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Debatable.

[Vassenor]

OK, let me spin this round. How is tracking someone going to "prevent harm"? A blip on a screen tells you nothing about what they are doing, what their intentions are or anything else.

[BPSR]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs

USA were stupid enough to allow drugs getting within their borders in the first place. They're a very behind country.

[Slakonian]

Why should my wife knows where I was last Sunday?

[Infected Mushroom]

I never said I was advocating any kind of dystopia, so that kind of language is just strawmanning

You don't have to say "I want a dystopia!" to advocate a dystopia, and me calling you out on it isn't strawmanning.

For instance. I might tell someone I do not believe any god or supernatural forces exist. They might say, "oh, then you're an atheist." That's not straw-manning, that's acknowledging fact.

What you are really trying to say is that I am advocating for policies that YOU believe WOULD lead to a dystopia... not that I have advocated for a dystopia (that I want something that I myself would consider a dystopia to occur).

This is a key distinction.

Saying ''You are advocating for a dystopia'' is inaccurate unless the person has intention to create a dystopia (by his own criteria). On the other hand, saying ''You are advocating for policies that in my view will likely lead to a dystopia'' is something we can discuss.

One is a misrepresentation, the other is a fair statement of opinion.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs

USA were stupid enough to allow drugs getting within their borders in the first place. They're a very behind country.

You realize we make plenty of drugs right here at home, correct.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Debatable.

Yeah. If we had Taco Tuesdays, it's possible somebody's life would be saved because rather than being drunk or being at the wrong place at the wrong time, they could be eating tacos!

[Prussia-Steinbach]

You don't have to say "I want a dystopia!" to advocate a dystopia, and me calling you out on it isn't strawmanning.

For instance. I might tell someone I do not believe any god or supernatural forces exist. They might say, "oh, then you're an atheist." That's not straw-manning, that's acknowledging fact.

What you are really trying to say is that I am advocating for policies that YOU believe WOULD lead to a dystopia... not that I have advocated for a dystopia (that I want something that I myself would consider a dystopia to occur).

This is a key distinction.

Saying ''You are advocating for a dystopia'' is inaccurate unless the person has intention to create a dystopia (by his own criteria). On the other hand, saying ''You are advocating for policies that in my view will likely lead to a dystopia'' is something we can discuss.

One is a misrepresentation, the other is a fair statement of opinion.

No. I, along with most other people in this thread, think that this idea, in itself, is dystopic.

[New Grestin]

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Taco Tuesday would be a fantastic policy. Free Tacos for everyone on the first Tuesday of the year.

The point is that your suggestion is just as insane as Taco Tuesday and even more of a gross waste of resources.

There is no need to track every vehicle in the United States. If anything we should be tracking for Cancer and Heart disease, as those kill more people annually.

[Slakonian]

Oh, this isn't stupid at all.

mate lol

[New haven america]

Except you previously have done so.

I have never advocated a dystopia. So using that kind of language just reveals ignorance and lack of reading comprehension regarding what I have actually written.

No, you have and do.

[Pope Joan]

One problem is that there is no foolproof system.

For instance, at conferences I attend it seems people are agog with the latest tech. It used to be powerpoint. Now it's Skype or who knows what. These marvels all had one thing in common: they failed to work properly.

They were disappointing toys.

[Czechanada]

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Wouldn't the logical extension of that rationale be to ban cars entirely?

[Infected Mushroom]

OK, let me spin this round. How is tracking someone going to "prevent harm"? A blip on a screen tells you nothing about what they are doing, what their intentions are or anything else.

It sends warning lights when that blip is going above the speed limit in the area (it also provides an immediate record of the infraction).

In the case of people on parole, it could also alert officers about parole violations.

The idea is that if problematic drivers are located and detected earlier, they can be set on the right path or completely stopped before they later become bigger threats. Many dangerous drivers don't show up on the police radar UNTIL they've killed someone or been involved in an accident.

It just decreases the number of instances where someone can casually or intentionally speed because every time they do so, in theory they would be detected and stopped by the police.

[New haven america]

I think an annual Taco Tuesday would be a better use of public resources than this.

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Lies.

[Luziyca]

No. I'd rather that we outlaw all non-self-driving cars than implement this policy.

[Infected Mushroom]

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Wouldn't the logical extension of that rationale be to ban cars entirely?

At the present I would say that cars are necessary for a functional modern economy and our way of life, and so unfortunately, we can't do so

[Infected Mushroom]

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Taco Tuesday would be a fantastic policy. Free Tacos for everyone on the first Tuesday of the year.

The point is that your suggestion is just as insane as Taco Tuesday and even more of a gross waste of resources.

There is no need to track every vehicle in the United States. If anything we should be tracking for Cancer and Heart disease, as those kill more people annually.

there's no reason why can't do all three

I don't like the mutually exclusive fallacy

[Narintia]

No.

First of all, you are basically saying RIP to privacy. Secondly it would require a lot of overhaul in the car making industry.

A blizzard in hell before this happens, nice try, Infected Mushrooms.

[Western Pacific Territories]

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Taco Tuesday would be a fantastic policy. Free Tacos for everyone on the first Tuesday of the year.

The point is that your suggestion is just as insane as Taco Tuesday and even more of a gross waste of resources.

There is no need to track every vehicle in the United States. If anything we should be tracking for Cancer and Heart disease, as those kill more people annually.

Debatable.

Yeah. If we had Taco Tuesdays, it's possible somebody's life would be saved because rather than being drunk or being at the wrong place at the wrong time, they could be eating tacos!

Yup, taco tuesdays would save countless lives. We shouldn't be talking about Orwellian dystopia, we should be talking about Taco Tuesday. It's a more interesting topic.

[Czechanada]

Tacos are not going to prevent tens of thousands of deaths or improve road safety.

Lies.

There are no lies here.

If tacos were made freely available, there would be tens of thousands of deaths from indigestion.