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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:52 pm

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No... no it doesn't.

Teenagers will have sex, early adults will have sex. It's human nature and you can't stop that. All abstinence does is deprive children of education and knowledge they desperately need.


Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. And you could stop that, but it would be painful for everyone and the human race would end. So let's not go down that road.


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Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:55 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
No... no it doesn't.

Teenagers will have sex, early adults will have sex. It's human nature and you can't stop that. All abstinence does is deprive children of education and knowledge they desperately need.


Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. And you could stop that, but it would be painful for everyone and the human race would end. So let's not go down that road.


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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:56 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
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STI/STD's? Abstinence sex ed works wonders.


No... no it doesn't.

Teenagers will have sex, early adults will have sex. It's human nature and you can't stop that. All abstinence does is deprive children of education and knowledge they desperately need.


But how else will red states get more voters?
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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:04 pm

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The Enclave Government wrote:
No... no it doesn't.

Teenagers will have sex, early adults will have sex. It's human nature and you can't stop that. All abstinence does is deprive children of education and knowledge they desperately need.


But how else will red states get more voters?


Obviously school prayer and forcing children to read the bible!

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:04 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:From the New York Times,
hormonal contraceptives like pills, patches and rings, ?

I'M SO CONFUSED. WOMEN, EXPLAIN YOUR BIRTH CONTROL DEVICES AND THEIR FUNCTIONS.
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:15 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:From the New York Times,
hormonal contraceptives like pills, patches and rings, ?

I'M SO CONFUSED. WOMEN, EXPLAIN YOUR BIRTH CONTROL DEVICES AND THEIR FUNCTIONS.


After many years looking through sordid magazines in the dark I am an expect in both 2-d and 3-d women so I have the answers. I assume the patches like the pills release progesterone which bamboozles their ovaries into not spewing out an egg. Rings I assume are the purity kind that like the jones brothers wear that prevent women from getting laid.

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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:18 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I'M SO CONFUSED. WOMEN, EXPLAIN YOUR BIRTH CONTROL DEVICES AND THEIR FUNCTIONS.


After many years looking through sordid magazines in the dark I am an expect in both 2-d and 3-d women so I have the answers. I assume the patches like the pills release progesterone which bamboozles their ovaries into not spewing out an egg. Rings I assume are the purity kind that like the jones brothers wear that prevent women from getting laid.


Actually, they are worse.

The rings are put in the special triangle in a special place in the beforesaid special triangle.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:19 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
After many years looking through sordid magazines in the dark I am an expect in both 2-d and 3-d women so I have the answers. I assume the patches like the pills release progesterone which bamboozles their ovaries into not spewing out an egg. Rings I assume are the purity kind that like the jones brothers wear that prevent women from getting laid.


Actually, they are worse.

The rings are put in the special triangle in a special place in the beforesaid special triangle.

How would that be an effective method of pregnancy prevention?!
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:22 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
After many years looking through sordid magazines in the dark I am an expect in both 2-d and 3-d women so I have the answers. I assume the patches like the pills release progesterone which bamboozles their ovaries into not spewing out an egg. Rings I assume are the purity kind that like the jones brothers wear that prevent women from getting laid.


Actually, they are worse.

The rings are put in the special triangle in a special place in the beforesaid special triangle.


So all women are illuminati confirmed?

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:24 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Actually, they are worse.

The rings are put in the special triangle in a special place in the beforesaid special triangle.


So all women are illuminati confirmed?


Femiluminati Confirmed.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:26 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. And you could stop that, but it would be painful for everyone and the human race would end. So let's not go down that road.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:26 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. And you could stop that, but it would be painful for everyone and the human race would end. So let's not go down that road.


Don't tell me what to do, David Cameron!

"See that pig over there?"
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:27 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:
So all women are illuminati confirmed?


Femiluminati Confirmed.


Egad I'm not sure if I should be scared or aroused!

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:31 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Femiluminati Confirmed.


Egad I'm not sure if I should be scared or aroused!

Depends, are we getting any? If yes, aroused, if no, scared and rather insulted.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:32 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Actually, they are worse.

The rings are put in the special triangle in a special place in the beforesaid special triangle.

How would that be an effective method of pregnancy prevention?!

Rings, much like patches, release the same hormones as the pill, they just tend to be placed... like that. And that's not even getting into IUDs, which if I recall come in both the medicated and non-medicated varieties, but basically sit in the uterus to prevent an egg from implanting in the uterine wall. The medicated version just also does the hormones for symptom management. One advantage to rings and IUDs over the pill, besides the obvious "You don't need to remember to take a pill every day at about the same time for it to work" is that since they don't have to make it through the digestive tract, they're much lower dosage than the pill.

(Fun fact: A LOT of women using the daily birth control pill are not necessarily using it strictly for its "No making baby" properties. It's also used for regulating the menstrual cycle, managing excessive PMS/PMDD symptoms such as cramps, moodiness, excessive bleeding, joint pain, nausea and so on; and can also be used as an effective acne treatment.)

And Kraylandia, you need to get rid of that pic, like, now. If it's NSFW, it's NSFNS either.
EDIT: Looks like it's gone.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:34 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:And Kraylandia, you need to get rid of that pic, like, now. If it's NSFW, it's NSFNS either.
EDIT: Looks like it's gone.


Yeah, apologies. I realised that after posting it. Won't happen again.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:36 pm

Tbh, I still feel like that would be something that very few women could legitimately choose over the pill.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:43 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Tbh, I still feel like that would be something that very few women could legitimately choose over the pill.

You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:45 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tbh, I still feel like that would be something that very few women could legitimately choose over the pill.

You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."


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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:45 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tbh, I still feel like that would be something that very few women could legitimately choose over the pill.

You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."


I'm not even going to ask.

Also i'm very suprised that the conservative side of NSG hasn't come over to oppose the measure.

Though again NSG does have a liberal lean.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:46 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:And Kraylandia, you need to get rid of that pic, like, now. If it's NSFW, it's NSFNS either.
EDIT: Looks like it's gone.


Yeah, apologies. I realised that after posting it. Won't happen again.


David Cameron would never post NSFW content!

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:47 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Tbh, I still feel like that would be something that very few women could legitimately choose over the pill.

You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."

With the latest one, I see the point, but I think the tampon point isn't correct because those are cotton, and I assume these to be hard. Also... um... How does it, you know, stay up there?
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Postby The Enclave Government » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:47 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."

With the latest one, I see the point, but I think the tampon point isn't correct because those are cotton, and I assume these to be hard. Also... um... How does it, you know, stay up there?

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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:49 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:You'd be surprised. With the pill, you have to take it daily, and about the same time each day for maximum effectiveness. Rings can be a "once a month and forget about it" dealie; remember, women stick tampons up in the vagina all the time without any problem; putting it in place might be uncomfortable, but once in place you don't even feel it. Some of the latest IUDs are more "once every five years, with the bonus of possibly eliminating monthly bleeding entirely." That can be a hell of a lot better than "Crap, time for my pill and I still bleed every month."

With the latest one, I see the point, but I think the tampon point isn't correct because those are cotton, and I assume these to be hard. Also... um... How does it, you know, stay up there?


This thread is gonna turn into Reppy's sex ed lessons. :unsure:
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:51 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:With the latest one, I see the point, but I think the tampon point isn't correct because those are cotton, and I assume these to be hard. Also... um... How does it, you know, stay up there?

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