Google honors veteran's day by excluding whites

[Lyras]

I believe this is what's being asserted in the OP. I didn't write it, but I think that's what was meant.

EDIT:

They ought be represented also. No one ought be overlooked, conceptually. Though I do feel that the numbers of those who served and fought ought mean something more than it appears to mean. Seems like we have a habit of, excuse the pun, white-washing history in an attempt to reflect current positions and attitudes. It seems a little disingenuous, to be frank.

Veteran's Day is not about current diversity. It's about honouring veterans. At least, in theory. It's not supposed to be a touchy-feely pat on the back for our changing military and social demographics. It's about honouring those who served, and gave life or limb to defend us and ours. Into that thought bubble, I can certainly see the cause for frustration with the chosen display from Google.

To be honest, as white vet, I really don't care

As a white veteran myself, I don't particularly care either. I have more important things on my plate. Like every other conflict that's coming. But I can see why some may take offence.

[Valystria]

We can vaccinate them against those diseases.

vaccinate them against almost everything?

please describe exactly how you think an army of monsters with metal skins and bubble faces descending from the skies in the superloud strange birds they have somehow bent to their will grabbing everyone and rounding them up so they can stab with strange painful decides filled with poison as they shout 一単語でも分からい言語はとても変に見える in their incomprehensible lexicon is going to go down

Being vaccinated against almost everything would likely be for the best. For all of us.

This wasn't an advocacy for vaccinating them, but a counter to the claim that an island visitation would spread diseases to the islanders. Diseases they could be vaccinated against.

To be honest, as white vet, I really don't care

As a white veteran myself, I don't particularly care either. I have more important things on my plate. Like every other conflict that's coming. But I can see why some may take offence.

I'll add that it's likely a more lopsided issue to ignore how accurate historical representation would mean there shouldn't be women in the image.

[Ostroeuropa]

We can vaccinate them against those diseases.

vaccinate them against almost everything?

please describe exactly how you think an army of monsters with metal skins and bubble faces descending from the skies in the superloud strange birds they have somehow bent to their will grabbing everyone and rounding them up so they can stab with strange painful decides filled with poison as they shout 一単語でも分からい言語はとても変に見える in their incomprehensible lexicon is going to go down

Which is why I propose we merely send one monster with metal skin and a bubble face, carrying a book explaining egalitarian principles and why they shouldn't be mean to gay people and such.

[Alyakia]

vaccinate them against almost everything?

please describe exactly how you think an army of monsters with metal skins and bubble faces descending from the skies in the superloud strange birds they have somehow bent to their will grabbing everyone and rounding them up so they can stab with strange painful decides filled with poison as they shout 一単語でも分からい言語はとても変に見える in their incomprehensible lexicon is going to go down

Which is why I propose we merely send one monster with metal skin and a bubble face, carrying a book explaining egalitarian principles and why they shouldn't be mean to gay people and such.

and what language do you write this book in? in fact, are we even 100% sure they have written language?

[Ostroeuropa]

Which is why I propose we merely send one monster with metal skin and a bubble face, carrying a book explaining egalitarian principles and why they shouldn't be mean to gay people and such.

and what language do you write this book in? in fact, are we even 100% sure they have written language?

You could draw crude pictures I suppose.

[Dakini]

vaccinate them against almost everything?

please describe exactly how you think an army of monsters with metal skins and bubble faces descending from the skies in the superloud strange birds they have somehow bent to their will grabbing everyone and rounding them up so they can stab with strange painful decides filled with poison as they shout 一単語でも分からい言語はとても変に見える in their incomprehensible lexicon is going to go down

Being vaccinated against almost everything would likely be for the best. For all of us.

This wasn't an advocacy for vaccinating them, but a counter to the claim that an island visitation would spread diseases to the islanders. Diseases they could be vaccinated against.

Even if they catch a type of the flu which we have vaccines ready, you'd have to convince them to sit still and be vaccinated, which is rather difficult when we don't know how to speak their language.

As a white veteran myself, I don't particularly care either. I have more important things on my plate. Like every other conflict that's coming. But I can see why some may take offence.

I'll add that it's likely a more lopsided issue to ignore how accurate historical representation would mean there shouldn't be women in the image.

Nurses and other women who were in battle zones totally don't count.

Which is why I propose we merely send one monster with metal skin and a bubble face, carrying a book explaining egalitarian principles and why they shouldn't be mean to gay people and such.

and what language do you write this book in? in fact, are we even 100% sure they have written language?

And how do we know that they don't already have egalitarian principles before we condescendingly show up to tell them that we're so much smarter and better than they are?

[Ostroeuropa]

And how do we know that they don't already have egalitarian principles before we condescendingly show up to tell them that we're so much smarter and better than they are?

We don't, but it's important to be sure.

How do we know they aren't super technologically advanced way ahead of us, and are studying the rest of us and fearing contact would wipe us all out?
Their tech is beyond our comprehension.

[Ostroeuropa]

I gotta say, the whole

"Helicopters and Hazmat Aliens and Vaccination needles descending from the sky" thing is pretty tempting as a study on how human beings react to an outside context problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excession ... xt_Problem

It could be a matter of national security one day.

[Valystria]

Being vaccinated against almost everything would likely be for the best. For all of us.

This wasn't an advocacy for vaccinating them, but a counter to the claim that an island visitation would spread diseases to the islanders. Diseases they could be vaccinated against.

Even if they catch a type of the flu which we have vaccines ready, you'd have to convince them to sit still and be vaccinated, which is rather difficult when we don't know how to speak their language.

Knowing their language would be quite helpful, but it wouldn't be necessary.

Nurses and other women who were in battle zones totally don't count.

Not if the image is one of proportional representation.

If you had around a dozen military personnel then you could perhaps have a single woman present. But a near 50/50 split is far more historically inaccurate than a bit of racial diversity. If anything the amount of women should be a far more pressing issue than the racial diversity.

[USS Monitor]

It looks like there are 3 or 4 white people to me.

Anyway, I'm irritated.

Why do some of us have to make everything an issue?

Maybe OP is the Hulk and he gets superpowers from being angry.

[Valystria]

It looks like there are 3 or 4 white people to me.

Anyway, I'm irritated.

Why do some of us have to make everything an issue?

It stems from having a lack of genuine issues to be preoccupied with.

[Dakini]

Even if they catch a type of the flu which we have vaccines ready, you'd have to convince them to sit still and be vaccinated, which is rather difficult when we don't know how to speak their language.

Knowing their language would be quite helpful, but it wouldn't be necessary.

So you propose to kidnap people, hold them down and vaccinate them against their will while they struggle?

Because I'm not sure how you explain "I'm going to shove this needle in your arm to help keep you from getting sick" to someone without being able to speak their language.

Nurses and other women who were in battle zones totally don't count.

Not if the image is one of proportional representation.

If you had around a dozen military personnel then you could perhaps have a single woman present. But a near 50/50 split is far more historically inaccurate than a bit of racial diversity. If anything the amount of women should be a far more pressing issue than the racial diversity.

Neither of them is pressing.

[Valystria]

Knowing their language would be quite helpful, but it wouldn't be necessary.

So you propose to kidnap people, hold them down and vaccinate them against their will while they struggle?

Because I'm not sure how you explain "I'm going to shove this needle in your arm to help keep you from getting sick" to someone without being able to speak their language.

Not unless the island is being visited for some reason or another. The vaccinations were only brought up in response to the assertion that the spread of diseases would be a reason to not visit the island.
Personally I'd prefer to be vaccinated even if I didn't understand the reasons for it.

Neither of them is pressing.

I agree. The thread shouldn't have been made at all.

[Dakini]

So you propose to kidnap people, hold them down and vaccinate them against their will while they struggle?

Because I'm not sure how you explain "I'm going to shove this needle in your arm to help keep you from getting sick" to someone without being able to speak their language.

Not unless the island is being visited for some reason or another. The vaccinations were only brought up in response to the assertion that the spread of diseases would be a reason to not visit the island.
Personally I'd prefer to be vaccinated even if I didn't understand the reasons for it.

There's no reason to visit the island. The people on the island want to be left alone (they're prone to attacking anyone who approaches, they've made their desire to be left alone quite clear) and we should respect their wishes.

Neither of them is pressing.

I agree. The thread shouldn't have been made at all.

Obviously not.

[Ostroeuropa]

Not unless the island is being visited for some reason or another. The vaccinations were only brought up in response to the assertion that the spread of diseases would be a reason to not visit the island.
Personally I'd prefer to be vaccinated even if I didn't understand the reasons for it.

There's no reason to visit the island. The people on the island want to be left alone (they're prone to attacking anyone who approaches, they've made their desire to be left alone quite clear) and we should respect their wishes.

Somebody told them about the needles.

[USS Monitor]

I think it's pretty fucking funny tbh.

Everyone is like
"No, there's no white people."
"No, there's one!"
"No, two!"
"I see three!"
"Four!"

It just highlights what a stupid clusterfuck racial classification is.

It's all subjective.

it's also to a degree what someone identifies as.

Perhaps the racists have a higher standard for as to what constitutes a proper member of the race. The rest of us really don't care.

I see it a little differently every time I look at it. When I first looked at it, I saw one white person, one East Asian, two black people, and the rest were sort of generic brown people that could be anything from Mexican to Indian. But when I look back at it after hearing other people's thoughts, I can see how other people interpreted it differently.

[Valystria]

Not unless the island is being visited for some reason or another. The vaccinations were only brought up in response to the assertion that the spread of diseases would be a reason to not visit the island.
Personally I'd prefer to be vaccinated even if I didn't understand the reasons for it.

There's no reason to visit the island. The people on the island want to be left alone (they're prone to attacking anyone who approaches, they've made their desire to be left alone quite clear) and we should respect their wishes.

I agree. The thread shouldn't have been made at all.

Obviously not.

Those cases of assault should have been prosecuted.

It's all subjective.

it's also to a degree what someone identifies as.

Perhaps the racists have a higher standard for as to what constitutes a proper member of the race. The rest of us really don't care.

I see it a little differently every time I look at it. When I first looked at it, I saw one white person, one East Asian, two black people, and the rest were sort of generic brown people that could be anything from Mexican to Indian. But when I look back at it after hearing other people's thoughts, I can see how other people interpreted it differently.

It's a reminder of how the social construct of race is ever shifting and ever arbitrary.

[Ostroeuropa]

There's no reason to visit the island. The people on the island want to be left alone (they're prone to attacking anyone who approaches, they've made their desire to be left alone quite clear) and we should respect their wishes.


Obviously not.

Those cases of assault should have been prosecuted.

I see it a little differently every time I look at it. When I first looked at it, I saw one white person, one East Asian, two black people, and the rest were sort of generic brown people that could be anything from Mexican to Indian. But when I look back at it after hearing other people's thoughts, I can see how other people interpreted it differently.

It's a reminder of how the social construct of race is ever shifting and ever arbitrary.

Not just assault, outright murder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... sland.html

And yeh, it's such an arbitrary construct.

[Saiwania]

There's no reason to visit the island. The people on the island want to be left alone (they're prone to attacking anyone who approaches, they've made their desire to be left alone quite clear) and we should respect their wishes.

The moment something valuable is found on their island such as gold, oil, or uranium- is when the floodgates will open up to them no longer being protected. This is all but guaranteed.

All the previous expeditions to befriend them seem to have failed because each and every one was pussyfooting around. There needs to be at least one expedition that is willing to summon their village elder or strongest warrior, allow them to do their pathetic shower of arrows and then bring out the gattling gun and shoot it at a target such as a tree to demonstrate how futile it will be for them to not surrender immediately.

Nothing will bring more respect than a demonstration of power.

[USS Monitor]

There aren't many racially homogenous societies left. Perhaps the OP wasn't aware of this.

There are plenty if you know where to look.

They're mostly tiny and have no power on the global stage. Even East Asian countries that we sometimes think of as being homogeneous actually have some racial diversity with the Ainu, the Hui, etc., and recent immigrants.

I guess North Korea could still be pretty homogeneous.

[USS Monitor]

Now, the doodle that worried me and made me mad when it was done when they had a Cezar Chavez doodle on Easter instead of an Easter doodle. The war on Christianity in the Northeast is a bigger problem than any sort of exclusion of whites.

Google is based in California. Please do not blame Yankees for stuff that other people do. Thanks.

[Saiwania]

They're mostly tiny and have no power on the global stage. Even East Asian countries that we sometimes think of as being homogeneous actually have some racial diversity with the Ainu, the Hui, etc., and recent immigrants.

Japan is 98% one ethnic group, China is 92% Han Chinese, Iceland is at least 95% White, these are all pretty good numbers. Anything below 10% can be ignored for the most part.

[USS Monitor]

To be honest, I think the OP may have something of a point.

The vast majority of America's combatants over the last two centuries have been white males. That group does seem historically under-represented, in the presented image.

So? Hitorically, black soldeirs were more likley to die

Some officers had a bad habit of only using them when they needed cannon fodder. I feel bad for the 54th Massachusetts... Those guys deserved better.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Can you just imagine the Google employees, cleverly crafting plans to subtly promote the white genocide through their veteran day message?

"Y'know, because Google stands for the denigration of the white race, how about we make sure none of the veterans in our photo are clearly white, that way veterans aren't recognized as generally being white by the general public?"

Can you imagine that? No, of course you fucking can't, which is why the mock outrage surrounding this is as stupid as using your toaster as a bath buddy.

[USS Monitor]

They're mostly tiny and have no power on the global stage. Even East Asian countries that we sometimes think of as being homogeneous actually have some racial diversity with the Ainu, the Hui, etc., and recent immigrants.

Japan is 98% one ethnic group, China is 92% Han Chinese, Iceland is at least 95% White, these are all pretty good numbers. Anything below 10% can be ignored for the most part.

Those small percentages of the population in populous countries like Japan or China represent millions of people.

And just FYI: a lot of people that self-identify as "Han Chinese" are actually descended from other ethnic groups that assimilated. There are a lot of people with Mongol or Manchu ancestry that just sort of sweep it under the rug and identify as "Han." They live the same way as the Han people they share their provinces with, but you can sometimes pick them out by the way they look. It's generally best not to make a fuss about it, though, because they get embarrassed. I guess some of them get picked on for looking different, especially if they have brownish skin.