Tamir Rice: Cops did nothing wrong say experts

[Staythefout]

http://www.breitbart.com/news/tamir-ric ... tewashing/

In case you don't know tamir rice was a teenager who was seen in an ohio park pointing what looked like a gun at people. The gun was a toy, but the orange muzzle signifying this had been taken off. A few things bug me about this case.

1 How the fuck were the cops supposed to know the gun was fake...not only was the orange muzzle removed, but that implies that rice wanted people to think his gun was real. He was pointing it at people. Why remove it if you don't want people to think that. Plus he apparently pointed it at the cops when they showed up. I've heard people say it was ridiculous, why would a teenager with a toy gun point it at the cops. Well, for starters it could have been suicide. I'll admit it's unlikely but you never know these days--kids killing themselves happens all the time. Or he could have been a jerk like this guy: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1622287

2 Tamir was a big boy for thirteen...at 5'7" and 220 lbs, the cops probably thought he was an adult.

3 One of my first memories was hearing about the Emmet Till killing in the 60s. I hate how people in black lives matter have appropriated shootings like these to fit the narrative of black oppression. Nowadays, cops will always be scrutinized no matter what they do, or even fired or jailed for it. As we speak there is a law enforcement officer in jail (forgot his name) who is in for murder because he shot a guy who had attempted to grab his weapons. He was black, so everyone lost their shit and he could be executed. I guess it's a testament to how effective the civil rights movement in the 50s/60s was...nowadays we have to use a microscope to look for "racism." Ironically, the police are probably afro americans' greatest ally. Some of the most dangerous city in america are mostly black, like detroit and chicago. Who is going to stop the holocaust happening in black areas? Sure as fuck ain't black lives matter! When the police are this hated by the people they protect the most, nothing good can happen.

Anyway, as much as it sucks that a teen died, I'm glad we didn't get some kind of kangaroo court type situation. I just hope this country can begin the healing process of learning to treat the police with respect and understanding, and not rushing to judgement. What do you think? Were the cops justified?

[The Wolven League]

This seems bloggy. You need to present a question in the OP or it will be locked by mods.

[Mega City 5]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

[Staythefout]

This seems bloggy. You need to present a question in the OP or it will be locked by mods.

okay

[Washington Resistance Army]

From everything I know it seems pretty justified. Tragic, but justified.

[The Wolven League]

From everything I know it seems pretty justified. Tragic, but justified.

This.

[Shaggai]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

This is sarcasm, right? Just making sure.

Edit: Also, OP, do you have a better source than Breitbart?

[Mega City 5]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

This is sarcasm, right? Just making sure.

Absolutely not. In point of fact, if you follow these instructions, you are likely to live longer.

If you don't, then don't expect my sympathy.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

Nonsense, everyone should associate with known criminals. We're swell people.

This is sarcasm, right? Just making sure.

Edit: Also, OP, do you have a better source than Breitbart?

No, it isn't. Nothing is with MC5.

I did hear this getting talked about on CNN earlier though.

[New confederate ramenia]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

10. Don't get reported to federal agents on false accusations.
11. Don't get raided because of political activism.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

:clap:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/tamir-ric ... tewashing/

In case you don't know tamir rice was a teenager who was seen in an ohio park pointing what looked like a gun at people. The gun was a toy, but the orange muzzle signifying this had been taken off. A few things bug me about this case.

1 How the fuck were the cops supposed to know the gun was fake...not only was the orange muzzle removed, but that implies that rice wanted people to think his gun was real. He was pointing it at people. Why remove it if you don't want people to think that. Plus he apparently pointed it at the cops when they showed up. I've heard people say it was ridiculous, why would a teenager with a toy gun point it at the cops. Well, for starters it could have been suicide. I'll admit it's unlikely but you never know these days--kids killing themselves happens all the time. Or he could have been a jerk like this guy: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1622287

2 Tamir was a big boy for thirteen...at 5'7" and 220 lbs, the cops probably thought he was an adult.

3 One of my first memories was hearing about the Emmet Till killing in the 60s. I hate how people in black lives matter have appropriated shootings like these to fit the narrative of black oppression. Nowadays, cops will always be scrutinized no matter what they do, or even fired or jailed for it. As we speak there is a law enforcement officer in jail (forgot his name) who is in for murder because he shot a guy who had attempted to grab his weapons. He was black, so everyone lost their shit and he could be executed. I guess it's a testament to how effective the civil rights movement in the 50s/60s was...nowadays we have to use a microscope to look for "racism." Ironically, the police are probably afro americans' greatest ally. Some of the most dangerous city in america are mostly black, like detroit and chicago. Who is going to stop the holocaust happening in black areas? Sure as fuck ain't black lives matter! When the police are this hated by the people they protect the most, nothing good can happen.

Anyway, as much as it sucks that a teen died, I'm glad we didn't get some kind of kangaroo court type situation. I just hope this country can begin the healing process of learning to treat the police with respect and understanding, and not rushing to judgement. What do you think? Were the cops justified?

He didn't point it at the cops when they showed up. It was in his waistband, and the cop thought that he saw Rice's hands move towards it. I don't mind you posting such a blatantly biased and one-sided OP, but you should at least try to act like you know what you're talking about in the process.

From one of the reports:

"Officer Loehmann was on the passenger side of the vehicle which was within close proximity to Rice. At the time, Rice was reportedly armed with a handgun, and Officer Loehmann was without cover. Following universal training and procedures, Officer Loehmann’s attention would be focused on Rice’s hands as they moved towards his waist band and lifted his jacket,"

It was a suspicious move, not a pointing of the gun.

And again, Breitbart? Are you fucking kidding me? You couldn't even go for a less biased source that gave the same information?

[Mega City 5]

10. Don't get reported to federal agents on false accusations.
11. Don't get raided because of political activism.

Neither of which happened in the Tamir Rice case or in any of those other instances that have the "Black lives matters" people so riled up.

[Alyakia]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

wow, you are a genius. putting aside the issue of some communities not trusting the police as much to perceived historical and possible current discrimination i'm surprised that nobody has ever thought of this before. we need to get you on the national news, stat.

[New confederate ramenia]

10. Don't get reported to federal agents on false accusations.
11. Don't get raided because of political activism.

Neither of which happened in the Tamir Rice case or in any of those other instances that have the "Black lives matters" people so riled up.

No, but they are a much worse problem from which the BLM movement diverts attention.

[Mega City 5]

wow, you are a genius. putting aside the issue of some communities not trusting the police as much to perceived historical and possible current discrimination i'm surprised that nobody has ever thought of this before. we need to get you on the national news, stat.

Well, if persons in those communities want to live longer, I'd recommend getting over it and learning some common sense when it comes to dealing with police officers.

[Shaggai]

This is sarcasm, right? Just making sure.

Absolutely not. In point of fact, if you follow these instructions, you are likely to live longer.

If you don't, then don't expect my sympathy.

"Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed"? What, don't ever leave your house?

[American Imperial Union]

Well, thugs do have a short life expectancy, thugs can expect to be shot or end up in prison when they act the thugs they are.

You can't go around pointing guns at people and cops. Chances are it's not going to end will for you. Especially with how things are going these days for cops.

Don't get me wrong, it's real sad that amir rice got shot.

But what do you expect from these typical thugs?

I've looked up some of this information on the Internet and apparently his mother has a lengthy criminal record. Surprise surprise. This boy was shot in a high crime area where airsoft guns are often used to rob stores.

[Rusozak]

I agree. General advice to anyone, of any ethnic persuasion, to avoid getting killed by the cops:

1. Do not break the law.
2. Do not resist arrest.
3. Do not flee from the police.
4. Surrender peacefully if a policeman attempts to arrest you.
5. Obey police instructions at all times.
6. Do not make sudden or threatening moves.
8. Immediately relinquish/drop any weapons (or even what might be mistaken as a weapon) if a policeman is coming your way to arrest you.
8. Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed.
9. Do not associate with known criminals.

Follow these instructions, and you might live longer.

wow, you are a genius. putting aside the issue of some communities not trusting the police as much to perceived historical and possible current discrimination i'm surprised that nobody has ever thought of this before. we need to get you on the national news, stat.

Sarcastic overload detected. Unable to distinguish.

[Shaggai]

wow, you are a genius. putting aside the issue of some communities not trusting the police as much to perceived historical and possible current discrimination i'm surprised that nobody has ever thought of this before. we need to get you on the national news, stat.

Well, if persons in those communities want to live longer, I'd recommend getting over it and learning some common sense when it comes to dealing with police officers.

Since you seem to think never going outside ever is a reasonable way not to get killed by the police, I think that not trusting the police is a pretty good idea.

[Mega City 5]

"Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed"? What, don't ever leave your house?

Tamir Rice was hanging out in a park in which drug and other criminal activities are common.

You don't want to be under suspicion for committing? Then don't go places where drug dealers hang out.

[Shaggai]

Well, thugs do have a short life expectancy, thugs can expect to be shot or end up in prison when they act the thugs they are.

You can't go around pointing guns at people and cops. Chances are it's not going to end will for you. Especially with how things are going these days for cops.

Don't get me wrong, it's real sad that amir rice got shot.

But what do you expect from these typical thugs?

I've looked up some of this information on the Internet and apparently his mother has a lengthy criminal record. Surprise surprise. This boy was shot in a high crime area where airsoft guns are often used to rob stores.

His mother has a criminal record, and he was holding an airsoft gun, therefore he's a "thug"? It's pretty transparent what you actually mean by "thug".

[Mega City 5]

Since you seem to think never going outside ever is a reasonable way not to get killed by the police, I think that not trusting the police is a pretty good idea.

If you have a death wish, then yes, not trusting police officers is a wonderful idea.

[Resentful Commies]

I completely agree. The kid should not have had the orange tip taken off. Still, my condolences to the family. And think about what the officer must be going through. He just shot an innocent 12 year old thinking he was going to kill others (mistakenly). He must hate himself. But hey, BLM can take this as proof cops do do their job and wait for the first black man to shoot.

[Shaggai]

"Do not congregate in places where crimes are likely to be committed"? What, don't ever leave your house?

Tamir Rice was hanging out in a park in which drug and other criminal activities are common.

You don't want to be under suspicion for committing? Then don't go places where drug dealers hang out.

So never go outside, then.

Since you seem to think never going outside ever is a reasonable way not to get killed by the police, I think that not trusting the police is a pretty good idea.

If you have a death wish, then yes, not trusting police officers is a wonderful idea.

If the police are going to kill you for going outside, trusting them is probably going to be a fatal idea.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Since you seem to think never going outside ever is a reasonable way not to get killed by the police, I think that not trusting the police is a pretty good idea.

If you have a death wish, then yes, not trusting police officers is a wonderful idea.

I've never trusted police and I'm still alive.