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Uxupox wrote:

Ayamar wrote:So what? Assad is the only thing Syria needs. He's a nationalist and not an Islamic Extremist. LONG LIVE ASSAD.

So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

American Imperial Union wrote:These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

Constantinopolis wrote:

Uxupox wrote:So if Scotland declared independence and the Prime Minister of the UK said that it was illegal then decided to bomb out the Scottish then it's OK because he is a nationalist?

If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

Uxupox wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Uxupox wrote:

Constantinopolis wrote:If independent Scotland did what ISIS is doing... then yes, it would be ok.

You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
You forget that it's not just ISIS and AL-Nusra that are fighting Assad but the FSA as well.

The FSA are marxist terrorists

Celibrae wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:These Arabs and their Islamic religion are dangerous to humanity. We should be supporting these authoritarian dictatorships because they can't democratically rule themselves and the alternative is Islamic government.

The more we get involved and stir the pot, we only instigate ethnic and religious sectarianism that fans and encourages extremism.

We should drop support for rebels and try to gain influence with Assad. And we need a holy Christian crusade to encourage the locals to adopt Christianity to end the vast majority of terrorism once and for all.

So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

American Imperial Union wrote:

Celibrae wrote:
So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

American Imperial Union wrote:

Celibrae wrote:
So you're arguing for not interfering to prevent religious attacks, yet starting a religious war between the world's two biggest religions?

Got it.

The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

The Bolshevik State wrote:So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

Uxupox wrote:

Ayamar wrote:The FSA are marxist terrorists

Can I get a source for that?

The Bolshevik State wrote:So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Can I get a source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Uxupox wrote:

Ayamar wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

Archegnum wrote:

Kaitjan wrote:

Why not? Nato and US pilots are actively conducting airstrikes against rebels such as ISIS. Do you think they will care if the jet dropping bombs on them is operated by a Russian or US pilot? They'll do their best to shoot it down anyway.

By the way, for all its faults, I admire your government's attempts to do away with American hegemony. Not all of us Brits are happy with the overbearing, frequently warmongering United States that directly caused the collapse of our Empire being the world superpower. Good luck to Putin on that front, though I support him in basically no other respect.

Occupied Deutschland wrote:

The Bolshevik State wrote:So, let's recap:

Rebels mostly centered around the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council are fighting the Syrian government led by Bashar Al-Assad. The main army in the SRCC is the Free Syrian Army. Bashar Al-Assad is supported by Arab nationalists, secularists, Ba'ath, Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, Russia, and to a lesser extent, Belarus and North Korea. Now Russia is actively involved militarily to "fight ISIS" however, it's more likely they're just here to destroy the opposition and help strengthen Assad. ISIS is fighting both the rebels and the government in the hopes of creating a new Caliphate. Their war extends into Iraq, Afghanistan, and Nigeria. Meanwhile, they are also all fighting al-Nusra front, an Islamist group backed by al-Qaeda. The Kurds in the north are fighting everyone in an attempt to gain some sort of autonomy. They border Turkey who is fighting the Kurds in their own country, so now Turkey is now fighting against the Syrian Kurds to prevent their own Kurds from joining the Syrian Kurds in the fight for independence. Meanwhile, NATO has been supporting the Syrian opposition, however, they haven't taken an active stance in the fight. A coalition of Arab states have also declared their support for the opposition. This bloc is primarily backed by Saudi Arabia, who is also fighting Iranian backed rebels in Yemen. The Brits meanwhile are silently watching the events from Cyprus, sipping their tea. And the Americans have been fighting themselves on weather or not they should join the fight militarily against ISIS. Hezbollah has been operating outside of Lebanon and has captured some of its own territory. The rebels in Yemen, the Houthis, have joined the fight on the side of the government. And Israel has been carefully watching, waiting, it's nuclear weapons ready to strike at any moment peaceful forces ready to help the poor people at any moment. And the fifth army has still yet to show up in the battle for the Misty Mountain and the Dwarvan treasure.

Fucking hell...What a nightmare. Well, this will only serve to inflame the tensions between NATO and Russia even more. Well, time to put on my coat, because this war is about to get...Cold. (I'll show my way out now)

Who would've thought when the US hit the reset button with Russia it was resetting to the proxy-war era?

Uxupox wrote:

American Imperial Union wrote:The problem is not religion. The problem in my opinion is Islam.

But Islam is religion?

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Can I get a source for that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

Constantinopolis wrote:For everyone's information: Anonymous IP address *edited out IP* changed the first sentence of the Wikipedia article on the Free Syrian Army to say "Marxist terrorist organization" at 19:15 UTC on 30 September 2015 (that is, a few minutes ago).

So the only useful information we got out of this is Ayamar's IP address.

Ayamar wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
Can you explain how they can be both Radical Islamist and Marxist at the same time? Pretty sure they are incompatible with each other.

Wikipedia says it and they change things that are wrong sooooooo
the PKK are radical muslims so were the taliban

Uxupox wrote:

Ayamar wrote:Wikipedia says it and they change things that are wrong sooooooo
the PKK are radical muslims so were the taliban

Why modify Wikipedia mate don't deny it Const already clarified it. So the Taliban were Marxist? Hmm, then why did they fight the communist government of Afghanistan? It seems to me to be very counterproductive.

American Imperial Union wrote:

Uxupox wrote:
But Islam is religion?

What im saying is that Islam as a religion is particularly responsible. Not religions in general, just islam.