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Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:22 pmby Lavochkin
Liriena wrote:West Dixieland wrote:>thug culture is glorified pseudo-anthropologyHow's New England or whatever gang-less region you come from?
It's called Argentina.
West Dixieland wrote:I get where you're coming from now though, and I respect it. Cops committing murder is disgusting and deserves the harshest punishment. The reactions to these comparatively low phenomenon compared to other killings, like rioting, doesn't stem from white racism, it stems from skewed community values.
"Skewed community values" that owe an awful lot to the history behind those communities, a history that prominently features centuries of institutional racism at its core.
When your surrounded by thugs, who mug people, and get shot. Your more likely to be a thug who mugs and gets shot.
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:31 amby Ascended Rome
Threlizdun wrote:Anglo-Saxon North America wrote:You're ignoring very critical points, namely that (not due to skin color but rather subculture) the black communities are so riddled with gang culture that any attempts to either bring the community out of terrible conditions and/or eliminate racial tensions is rendered defunct. With such outrageous crime that, while certainly started due to an institution against them, is perpetuated in large part by themselves.
There are so many, as what many blacks would describe as "Uncle Tom"s that embraced "white" (as if law-abiding abd productive citizenry is confined to a race) that do so well, if not better than whites due to AA, that it's ridiculous to think that many of their modern problems aren't caused by community values.
Ignore the disproportionate white-on-black crime, the black-on-black crime is so absurd it looks like a distasteful joke. If you think black lives matter, which I'm sure we all do, it isn't cops you should be screaming with a crowd to kill. It's gang culture.
Gang culture is a product of the oppression, poverty, and alienation faced by the black community. Cultures don't develop in a vacuum; they are the natural products of their environment. To end gang culture, we must first end the oppressive situations that give rise to it.
Gang culture is a result of the fact that the vast majority of African American men are raised in homes with no father figure, and gain major male role models from musicians in those areas (who often had their start in gangs) or from active gang members. Blacks are not being oppressed in the United States. Are they disproportionately poor? Yes, but this is due to the fact that the United States has the lowest social mobility in the Western World, and Blacks are caught in a trap where, due to their historically low-wealth environs, they are unable to move out of their class at a high rate.
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:55 amby New Grestin
Well, freedom of speech protects that, and while I find it abhorrent, I'm not saying that they need to be tear gassed.
Hell, anyone with half a brain understands that would only make things worse.
I mean, shit, brutal police actions are the reason we're in this mess in the first place.
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:29 amby Actan
Grave_n_idle wrote:Paddy O Fernature wrote:Being outraged over a killing of a man who had absolutely nothing to do with the bullshit going on currently, who was gunned down in cold blood for no fucking logical reason, is hardly ridiculous.
Interesting choice of words.
Are you suggesting that all the people who have been illed by police this year HAVE been something 'to do with the bullshit going on currently'?
That unarmed kid shot in his car a few days back... are you arguing that was NOT for 'no logical reason' or 'in cold blood'?
I think you're drawing an artificial distinction that makes cop lives more valuable than anyone else, and blames everyone else for getting shot.
Or, perhaps, you could be outraged at both?
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:07 amby The Lone Alliance
Liriena wrote:"Skewed community values" that owe an awful lot to the history behind those communities, a history that prominently features centuries of institutional racism at its core.
And those community values now guarantees the continued existence of those racist institutions. You can attempt to justify it all you want but that will not change that reality.
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:09 amby Cedoria
I agree that police brutality in the US is a major problem for minorities, but this group is ridiculous.
A bunch of nutbags if ever there were one, anybody wanting to actually fix the problems should stay well away from this bunch.
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:13 amby Dyrrachium
Cedoria wrote:I agree that police brutality in the US is a major problem for minorities, but this group is ridiculous.
A bunch of nutbags if ever there were one, anybody wanting to actually fix the problems should stay well away from this bunch.
Hate how they:
1.) take from popular culture and corrupt the work of artists for their bs agenda
2.) Strawman literally everyone who disagrees with them as a racist, an uncle tom, or someone with a "colonised" mind.
edit: don't need an apostrophe
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:05 amby Grave_n_idle
Actan wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:Interesting choice of words.
Are you suggesting that all the people who have been illed by police this year HAVE been something 'to do with the bullshit going on currently'?
That unarmed kid shot in his car a few days back... are you arguing that was NOT for 'no logical reason' or 'in cold blood'?
I think you're drawing an artificial distinction that makes cop lives more valuable than anyone else, and blames everyone else for getting shot.
Or, perhaps, you could be outraged at both?
I didn't say that either was 'good', did I? Wasn't the point that the OTHER poster was the one creating the artificial distinction?
Did you perhaps respond to the wrong person?
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:16 amby West Dixieland
Dyrrachium wrote:Cedoria wrote:I agree that police brutality in the US is a major problem for minorities, but this group is ridiculous.
A bunch of nutbags if ever there were one, anybody wanting to actually fix the problems should stay well away from this bunch.
Hate how they:
1.) take from popular culture and corrupt the work of artist's for their bs agenda
2.) Strawman literally everyone who disagrees with them as a racist, an uncle tom, or someone with a "colonised" mind.
HAHAHAHA
That's the most hilarious picture of current events I've seen in a long time. I can only hope that some day I will be an anthromorphic southern LEO getting punched in the face by a SU character.
I have never been more proud of St. Andrew's Cross
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Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:39 amby Actan
Grave_n_idle wrote:Actan wrote:Or, perhaps, you could be outraged at both?
I didn't say that either was 'good', did I? Wasn't the point that the OTHER poster was the one creating the artificial distinction?
Did you perhaps respond to the wrong person?
Because it is a distinction you are deluding yourself into thinking exists.
