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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:10 am

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:12 am

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The Free and Virtuous wrote:There aren't many places left in the world for people to establish nation states. Where do you think would be the best place for Libertarians to go in order to establish a new nation? I'm not talking about micronations or citystates either, I mean a full blown, brand new country. I've always thought Sakhalin would be an interesting option, if things go really poorly in Russia and the whole country starts to collapse or tip into civil war it would theoretically be possible for a fairly small group of colonists to seize control of the island. Another option would be Borneo, I'm not sure how the locals there would react to Libertarianism but said colonists could probably encourage separatist sentiments in both the Malaysian part and the Indonesian part of the island, they could also retreat into the jungle on the center of island when things get tough. Now, realistically I don't think this would work because Libertarians are opposed to violence and as such guerrilla warfare wouldn't be a reasonable means of state creation for them but it's fun to speculate about. ;)

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:14 am

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:15 am

Sun Wukong wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Mordor.

The Eye of Sauron, is actually just Ayn Rand's vagina.


ugh

I mean, on so many levels...
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:18 am

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Sun Wukong wrote:The Eye of Sauron, is actually just Ayn Rand's vagina.

ugh

I mean, on so many levels...

Future president of the USA Donald Trump would still hit it.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:19 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote:The Eye of Sauron, is actually just Ayn Rand's vagina.


ugh

I mean, on so many levels...


That's one helluva yeast infection.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:19 am

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Grave_n_idle wrote:
ugh

I mean, on so many levels...


That's one helluva yeast infection.


It does look...

*shades*

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:20 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Gauthier wrote:That's one helluva yeast infection.


It does look...

*shades*

...inflamed.

That is so hot.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:23 am

The Free and Virtuous wrote:There aren't many places left in the world for people to establish nation states. Where do you think would be the best place for Libertarians to go in order to establish a new nation? I'm not talking about micronations or citystates either, I mean a full blown, brand new country. I've always thought Sakhalin would be an interesting option, if things go really poorly in Russia and the whole country starts to collapse or tip into civil war it would theoretically be possible for a fairly small group of colonists to seize control of the island. Another option would be Borneo, I'm not sure how the locals there would react to Libertarianism but said colonists could probably encourage separatist sentiments in both the Malaysian part and the Indonesian part of the island, they could also retreat into the jungle on the center of island when things get tough. Now, realistically I don't think this would work because Libertarians are opposed to violence and as such guerrilla warfare wouldn't be a reasonable means of state creation for them but it's fun to speculate about. ;)

oh it would have to be platforms in the ocean outside national boundaries.

what could possibly go wrong?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:24 am

Ashmoria wrote:
The Free and Virtuous wrote:There aren't many places left in the world for people to establish nation states. Where do you think would be the best place for Libertarians to go in order to establish a new nation? I'm not talking about micronations or citystates either, I mean a full blown, brand new country. I've always thought Sakhalin would be an interesting option, if things go really poorly in Russia and the whole country starts to collapse or tip into civil war it would theoretically be possible for a fairly small group of colonists to seize control of the island. Another option would be Borneo, I'm not sure how the locals there would react to Libertarianism but said colonists could probably encourage separatist sentiments in both the Malaysian part and the Indonesian part of the island, they could also retreat into the jungle on the center of island when things get tough. Now, realistically I don't think this would work because Libertarians are opposed to violence and as such guerrilla warfare wouldn't be a reasonable means of state creation for them but it's fun to speculate about. ;)

oh it would have to be platforms in the ocean outside national boundaries.

what could possibly go wrong?


Sea slugs.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:26 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:oh it would have to be platforms in the ocean outside national boundaries.

what could possibly go wrong?


Sea slugs.


*shudder*

I forgot about sea slugs.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:26 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:oh it would have to be platforms in the ocean outside national boundaries.

what could possibly go wrong?

Sea slugs.

And pirates, of course. Don't forget the pirates.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:27 am

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Gauthier wrote:Sea slugs.

And pirates, of course. Don't forget the pirates.

And we don't beat around the bush, Morty. Those pirates are really rapey.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:29 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Sea slugs.

And pirates, of course. Don't forget the pirates.

shit!

I forgot about pirates too.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:29 am

New Grestin wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:And pirates, of course. Don't forget the pirates.

And we don't beat around the bush, Morty. Those pirates are really rapey.

When they see an opportunity, they'll take it. And take it hard, I might add. One could say that pirates actually have a remarkably libertarian mindset in that regard.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:30 am

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New Grestin wrote:And we don't beat around the bush, Morty. Those pirates are really rapey.

When they see an opportunity, they'll take it. And take it hard, I might add. One could say that pirates actually have a remarkably libertarian mindset in that regard.

Anything less is a monument to compromise.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:32 am

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New Grestin wrote:And we don't beat around the bush, Morty. Those pirates are really rapey.

When they see an opportunity, they'll take it. And take it hard, I might add. One could say that pirates actually have a remarkably libertarian mindset in that regard.


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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:33 am

Ailiailia wrote:There are many unoccupied islands, but all of them (afaik) are in sea territory claimed by some nation or else in sea like the Antarctic protected by treaty from human colonization.

Make your own island perhaps. In the Pacific and probably other oceans, there are very shallow areas where dumping a few million tons of rock and earth would make a new island. Two problems: firstly, it would cost a lot of money to do that, and secondly the shallow areas often have coral or other marine life which would be fubar'd by dumping rock and earth on them. Expect nations, with troublesome things like navies, to stop you doing that or to take it away from you after you've done it, and don't expect a groundswell of popular support for your project.

For example, the [defeated] 'Minerva Reef' project...
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:33 am

New Grestin wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:When they see an opportunity, they'll take it. And take it hard, I might add. One could say that pirates actually have a remarkably libertarian mindset in that regard.

Anything less is a monument to compromise.

And it would be an act of exceptional cruelty to let someone suffer a situation brought forth by compromise and common sense. A fate worse than death, I tell you!
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:37 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Anything less is a monument to compromise.

And it would be an act of exceptional cruelty to let someone suffer a situation brought forth by compromise and common sense. A fate worse than death, I tell you!

And-

Shit.

I don't have any other jokes about Individualism for this. It's a bit of a niche topic for humor.
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Postby Stellonia » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:40 am

Probably Bi'r Tawīl, if you can depose their king.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:43 am

Stellonia wrote:Probably Bi'r Tawīl, if you can depose their king.

A quote from that article: As we all know, white people showing up in Africa and planting flags in places they know nothing about has never, ever gone wrong before.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Immoren » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:51 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Stellonia wrote:Probably Bi'r Tawīl, if you can depose their king.

A quote from that article: As we all know, white people showing up in Africa and planting flags in places they know nothing about has never, ever gone wrong before.


No-one wanted the land before. *No-one* had heard of the place before. But when he claimed it people in social media got offended. For some reason I find it amusing.
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Postby Stellonia » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:51 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Stellonia wrote:Probably Bi'r Tawīl, if you can depose their king.

A quote from that article: As we all know, white people showing up in Africa and planting flags in places they know nothing about has never, ever gone wrong before.

As a matter of fact, it has. It occurs when multiple groups of white people plant flags at the same place.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:53 am

I just noticed something.

The OP says Libertarians are looking for somewhere to live, where they can presumably establish a libertarian state.

Is OP implying Libertarians are like Jews?
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