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GoTopLess and associated feminists seem to think so

http://gotopless.org/

GoTopLess is essentially a movement for "gender equality" that claims women should have the right to go topless just as men are.

What do you guys think about this movement?

The problem behind this imho are the boobies! And while they are not really genitalia they are however protected under the law as genitalia. If you forcefully grav a woman's arm it is assault, but if you grab their boobs it is sexual assault.

Not only are they legally sexual organs, but many neurologists deem them to be actual sexual organs as well
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... ns-breasts

I'm of gender belief that sexual organs shouldn't be left open for the world to see in public.

Men do not have anything close to to the boob in terms of sexual stimulation and s9cietal expectation so no, it's not #PATRIARCHY or inequality or oppression.

So If I were the one man supreme court, I'd probably strike it down. I however, Love BOOBIES So I don't mind the movement much hehe and maybe joining some topless protesters would be..interesting! But of course, most people who do this sort of thing are Walmart moms and well.....not too sexy.

What say you NSG?

Radical feminist nonsense, reasonable demands based on gender equality, freedom of expression or sinful and disgusting?

i fucking hate this "heh i dont mind if women go topless heh BOOBIES XD" shit. most of the women will be ugly. most of the men will be ugly. make all the arguments you want about other countries and how breasts would be acceptable if we didn't cover them up but i'd sooner make men put a fucking shirt on than have this. i don't want to see your pasty chests or saggy breasts.

Alyakia wrote:i fucking hate this "heh i dont mind if women go topless heh BOOBIES XD" shit. most of the women will be ugly. most of the men will be ugly. make all the arguments you want about other countries and how breasts would be acceptable if we didn't cover them up but i'd sooner make men put a fucking shirt on than have this.

This.

That and going topless all the time would be kinda impractical in some places.

Also didn't we have a thread on this 2 months ago or something

Erm, I'll say this: No shirt, no service.

Alyakia wrote:i fucking hate this "heh i dont mind if women go topless heh BOOBIES XD" shit. most of the women will be ugly. most of the men will be ugly. make all the arguments you want about other countries and how breasts would be acceptable if we didn't cover them up but i'd sooner make men put a fucking shirt on than have this. i don't want to see your pasty chests or saggy breasts.

Hmm, maybe time for government regulation then. No women over thirty or lower than a 5 on the federal hotness scale.

Can we please all keep our damn clothes on? I mean, we've invented those for a reason, you know.

In places where it's acceptable for men to be topless, sure, why not? People usually approach this from the viewpoint that breasts are somehow taboo.

They're taboo because we say they are. That's a circular argument.

What's the feminist opinion on breast feeding in public? I've never really been against it and would say it goes with topless in public.

To the extent that male toplessness is socially acceptable, I don't really have a problem with female toplessness.

Lordieth wrote:In places where it's acceptable for men to be topless, sure, why not? People usually approach this from the viewpoint that breasts are somehow taboo.

They're taboo because we say they are. That's a circular argument.

Well, shit, I hadn't taken into account that there are places where people tend to go topless. I guess beaches, public pools and areas like that would be okay. For some reason I've all but forgotten about areas like that and was thinking everyday life. Yay me.

That aside, everywhere other than areas where it's considered normal I'll admit it's a case of "ewww, newd peeps" for me.

Mefpan wrote:Can we please all keep our damn clothes on? I mean, we've invented those for a reason, you know.

To keep warm and protect ourselves from the elements?

Doesn't really make sense if the elements aren't a problem, and it is warm.

Mandatory nudism is the only solution. *nods*

It's clearly a feminist plot to minimize the importance of bare male chests.

Sun Wukong wrote:

Mefpan wrote:Can we please all keep our damn clothes on? I mean, we've invented those for a reason, you know.

To keep warm and protect ourselves from the elements?

Doesn't really make sense if the elements aren't a problem, and it is warm.

Point taken. I know I don't really have a logical reason to go on here, but I'm too much of a fucking prude to want to see topless people in public in general.

Communes of Europe wrote:Mandatory nudism is the only solution. *nods*

Or Victorian style clothing.

Lordieth wrote:In places where it's acceptable for men to be topless, sure, why not? People usually approach this from the viewpoint that breasts are somehow taboo.

They're taboo because we say they are. That's a circular argument.

If breasts are legally considered to be genitalia, should being nude be legal as well?

Absolutely disgusting and immodest, we should if anything be increasing restrictions for women to cover up more. First on the agenda should ofcourse be banning the perversion of the Bikini.

Mefpan wrote:

Lordieth wrote:In places where it's acceptable for men to be topless, sure, why not? People usually approach this from the viewpoint that breasts are somehow taboo.

They're taboo because we say they are. That's a circular argument.

Well, shit, I hadn't taken into account that there are places where people tend to go topless. I guess beaches, public pools and areas like that would be okay. For some reason I've all but forgotten about areas like that and was thinking everyday life. Yay me.

That aside, everywhere other than areas where it's considered normal I'll admit it's a case of "ewww, newd peeps" for me.

Everyday life? Well, obviously not. I don't take my shirt off at work, or when I go shopping. Why should Women be able to behave any differently? In the same manner, however, where it is acceptable for men to take off their shirts, women should also be able to go topless.

All the edgy folks ignoring the issue to take time to do some body shaming aside.

Yes, if the law allows a man to walk down the street topless, women should be allowed to as well.

I'm a grown man, "boobies" aren't my motivation... I live in a place that gets 3 months a year in triple digit heat, so you get to see my chest, and its kind of bullshit that I can just jerk my shirt off and no one bats an eye, but my wife can't.

I've never been a fan of the idea that I'm so fragile or lacking in self control or that my sensibilities are so delicate that there has to be a special set of rules for one gender to protect me from their wiles. I'm not one to go without a shirt even when swimming and yeah, there aren't a lot of people I'd like to see sans clothing, but there are a lot of things I don't like, I don't think that should dictate how they present themselves. My judgement means fuckall to how others want to adorn or not adorn themselves.

Yorkvale wrote:

Lordieth wrote:In places where it's acceptable for men to be topless, sure, why not? People usually approach this from the viewpoint that breasts are somehow taboo.

They're taboo because we say they are. That's a circular argument.

If breasts are legally considered to be genitalia, should being nude be legal as well?

Breasts are legally genitalia because the law is wrong. It can however be changed.

Deuxtete wrote:All the edgy folks ignoring the issue to take time to do some body shaming aside.

Yes, if the law allows a man to walk down the street topless, women should be allowed to as well.

I'm a grown man, "boobies" aren't my motivation... I live in a place that gets 3 months a year in triple digit heat, so you get to see my chest, and its kind of bullshit that I can just jerk my shirt off and no one bats an eye, but my wife can't.

If we'd grown up around bare female chests, so much so that it became normalised, perhaps we wouldn't get so much of the "hur hur, boobies" mentality.

You don't see african tribes making a great fuss about the amount of breast on display. Oh look, another pair of breasts, for the billionth time in my life..

Are people really ignoring the difference between breasts and pecks.....?

Lordieth wrote:

Deuxtete wrote:All the edgy folks ignoring the issue to take time to do some body shaming aside.

Yes, if the law allows a man to walk down the street topless, women should be allowed to as well.

I'm a grown man, "boobies" aren't my motivation... I live in a place that gets 3 months a year in triple digit heat, so you get to see my chest, and its kind of bullshit that I can just jerk my shirt off and no one bats an eye, but my wife can't.

If we'd grown up around bare female chests, so much so that it became normalised, perhaps we wouldn't get so much of the "hur hur, boobies" mentality.

Well we can start now as far as I'm concerned. A few years of idiots staring, then its over.

I don't care at all about nudity, especially when there is a double-standard.