Should the Burka and the like be banned.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

France bans the hijab and 50 people died of terrorism.

Britain permits hijab and 250 people died of terrorism.

ISIL enforces hijab and 100s of thousands of people died of terrorism.

Ban the Burka! tlc

[Washington Resistance Army]

France bans the hijab and 50 people died of terrorism.

Britain permits hijab and 250 people died of terrorism.

ISIL enforces hijab and 100s of thousands of people died of terrorism.

Ban the Burka! tlc

Nazi Germany was right wing and millions died.

Ban the right wing!

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

I agree

[Baltenstein]

Not at all, again, you're one of the people who claim that Islamic terrorist groups have no doctrine or theology whatsoever. Most or all extremist Islamic groups follow a reasonable interpretation of Islamic text, laws or scriptures. There's nothing purely political, or propaganda, or a plot to dominate power here.

ISIS for example, follows the Salafi school of Islam, a school within Sunni Islam and the classic writings of Ibn Taymiyah and more modern writers such as Sayyid Qutb. There is a clear tradition of Islamic theology and doctrine, and interpretations of certain scholars and schools. To say that extremist Muslim groups follow "no reasonable" interpretation of Islam is inaccurate, they follow a valid and reasonable interpretation of Islam like anybody else.

They aren't following any reasonable interpretation of Islam, as the Quran VERY CLEARLY states that killing innocent people is bad.

Muhammad himself did a poor job of following its tenets then.

Actually, the fact that you have to specify it as "innocent people" already shows the inherent problems, as you could define anybody as being guilty (of whatever comes to your mind) really.

[Apollinis]

Yes because it would infuriate the people I don't like to no end.

What a remarkably infantile approach to politics.

No, the burqa et al. should not be banned. I can see why there's a case for, say, asking someone to display their face for security reasons, but banning it outright? No. Freedom from religion should not really extend to the state dictating what clothes people can wear.

[BK117B2]

Yes because it would infuriate the people I don't like to know end.

What do you have against libertarians?

[The Cobalt Sky]

Yes because it would infuriate the people I don't like to no end.

What a remarkably infantile approach to politics.

He is a self described "mater ruseman." Don't take him too seriously, he says things that are just below baiting.

[Off-reasonable People]

The title explains it all. Should the burka and the likes of it be banned in public places like goverment buildings,banks,hospitals. I ask this because the things present an issue in security and Women's rights. so what does NSG think.

No. On so many different levels no.

[New Werpland]

France bans the hijab and 50 people died of terrorism.

Britain permits hijab and 250 people died of terrorism.

ISIL enforces hijab and 100s of thousands of people died of terrorism.

Ban the Burka! tlc

Nazi Germany was right wing and millions died.

Ban the right wing!

Fascists are the creation of Nihilism, they don't accurately fit on the typical left-right chart.

[Lleu llaw Gyffes]

Nazi Germany was right wing and millions died.

Ban the right wing!

Fascists are the creation of Nihilism, they don't accurately fit on the typical left-right chart.

Then you need a better chart tlc

You need a chart with fascists on the right and Anarchists on the Left otherwise, your chart is meaningless.

[Kyrulia]

Yes they should be.

[DBJ]

Yes. Burqa and Niqab should be banned. At least if you value secularism more than sectarianism.

this.

[Imperializt Russia]

Yes. Burqa and Niqab should be banned. At least if you value secularism more than sectarianism.

this.

That is absurd.

[Terres Courageux]

i think so anyway my Muslim friend has to take off her burka when she come's to my house

[WillemL]

They can keep wearing them in the arab countries, but if they want to live is a 'western' country, then they have to follow the rules of the country.

[Imperializt Russia]

They can keep wearing them in the arab countries, but if they want to live is a 'western' country, then they have to follow the rules of the country.

The rules of western countries traditionally includes liberalism to wear what the shit you want.

Unless you're a women in which case you're a whore so I guess you don't really see a difference there.

[Weltschmerzen]

Be banned from where?

In my country the Burka, together with some other devices that can cover up your face and therefore your identity are forbidden in public areas.

I agree with it, I find it normal that in a country, where the Islamic culture is not the predominant culture, you get submitted to a major culture.

[MERIZoC]

They can keep wearing them in the arab countries, but if they want to live is a 'western' country, then they have to follow the rules of the country.

And why should said rules contradict what we tend to see as western values?

[Aelex]

this.

That is absurd.

As absurd as comparing it to, as you did earlier, the rafles of Jews in WW2 and the Holocaust? Because, that, indeed, was absurd. And also incommensurately stupid.

[Arcturus Novus]

France bans the hijab and 50 people died of terrorism.

Britain permits hijab and 250 people died of terrorism.

ISIL enforces hijab and 100s of thousands of people died of terrorism.

Ban the Burka! tlc

Your logic is horrible and you should feel bad about it.

i think so anyway my Muslim friend has to take off her burka when she come's to my house

Why would you do that?

[Aelex]

Why would you do that?

'Cause wearing a burqa at home is incredibly unconfortable? Or maybe because even the mightiest traditionalists don't go that far?

[Arcturus Novus]

Why would you do that?

'Cause wearing a burqa at home is incredibly unconfortable? Or maybe because even the mightiest traditionalists don't go that far?

Honestly I didn't even think of that. Good point.

[Imperializt Russia]

That is absurd.

As absurd as comparing it to, as you did earlier, the rafles of Jews in WW2 and the Holocaust? Because, that, indeed, was absurd. And also incommensurately stupid.

If you actually read what I posted, that's not what I did.

[Aelex]

As absurd as comparing it to, as you did earlier, the rafles of Jews in WW2 and the Holocaust? Because, that, indeed, was absurd. And also incommensurately stupid.

If you actually read what I posted, that's not what I did.

You said :

France and the Netherlands are crippled by Nazis though.

It's almost as though they got Stockholm Syndrome back in '40.

You're basically comparing the 5th République, which is only perpetuating a century old tradition of secularism and asking of muslims the same things asked to every citizen, to Vichy France, which was based on antisemitism and actively participated to the Holocaust. So yeah, you EXACTLY said such bullshit.

[Weltschmerzen]

France has: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ba ... e_covering
The parliament of the Netherlands also is in favour and is currently turning it into law: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... ch-cabinet

France and the Netherlands are crippled by Nazis though.

It's almost as though they got Stockholm Syndrome back in '40.

Excuse me, but the National Socialist idealogy is different than banning burkas in public.