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Should the Burka and the like be banned.

Postby Redsection » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:10 pm

The title explains it all. Should the burka and the likes of it be banned in public places like goverment buildings,banks,hospitals. I ask this because the things present an issue in security and Women's rights. so what does NSG think.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:11 pm

No.

Unless we start banning kippahs and turbans.
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Postby Rhodevus » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:No.

Unless we start banning kippahs and turbans.


agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.
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Postby Huda » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

Freedom of religion, errybody?

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:12 pm

No, that's kind of a cunt thing to do. They may be ugly as all hell, but women have a right to wear what they want.

But what do you think, OP?
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Postby Redsection » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:14 pm

Rhodevus wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:No.

Unless we start banning kippahs and turbans.


agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.


How so,The last time i checked you can hide weapons under such loose clothing,there is always the Hijab or a simple scarf covering the hair. There is no need for an entire outfit.
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Postby Yaramaqui » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Banning Burkas? No.
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Postby Qart chadast » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:15 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:No.

Unless we start banning kippahs and turbans.


I agree, either ban everything or ban nothing of the sorts.
Aside from that though, i still prefer that people remain free on what they chose to wear.

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Postby Redsection » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:15 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:No, that's kind of a cunt thing to do. They may be ugly as all hell, but women have a right to wear what they want.

But what do you think, OP?


Nope,and it's not the woman's choice.
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Postby Qart chadast » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Redsection wrote:
Rhodevus wrote:
agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.


How so,The last time i checked you can hide weapons under such loose clothing,there is always the Hijab or a simple scarf covering the hair. There is no need for an entire outfit.


Like you can't hide a weapon under other types of clothing *nods*
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Redsection wrote:
Rhodevus wrote:
agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.


How so,The last time i checked you can hide weapons under such loose clothing,there is always the Hijab or a simple scarf covering the hair. There is no need for an entire outfit.

You can hide weapons under pretty much anything. I've got a concealed carry license and I've had no problem hiding guns and knives and the like under my clothes, and I don't wear burkas.
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Postby Rhodevus » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Redsection wrote:
Rhodevus wrote:
agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.


How so,The last time i checked you can hide weapons under such loose clothing,there is always the Hijab or a simple scarf covering the hair. There is no need for an entire outfit.


There is no need for a tie, but most jobs want you to wear one. Instead of society telling you what is appropriate to wear, it is the religion. Also, if you are scared that the entire outfit can be used to hide a gun, then you should be scared of everyone wearing pants, shirts, underwear, etc. All of these can be used to hide guns and knives and stuff like that.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:16 pm

Redsection wrote:
Rhodevus wrote:
agreed. You either ban everything or nothing. It is never good to ban something from one particular religious group.


How so,The last time i checked you can hide weapons under such loose clothing,there is always the Hijab or a simple scarf covering the hair. There is no need for an entire outfit.


You can hide weapons in pockets too.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Redsection wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:No, that's kind of a cunt thing to do. They may be ugly as all hell, but women have a right to wear what they want.

But what do you think, OP?


Nope,and it's not the woman's choice.

...it isn't? Because, of the minority of Muslim women who wear burqas in the West, they're all being forced to by their husbands?
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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Allah is literally the Arabic word for "the god" or God. It is what Arabian Christians call God in their language, in addition to what Muslims call God.

As for the Burka, I don't see why it should be banned. If a muslim woman wants to dress modestly and with traditional clothes, what's the problem? It doesn't pose any security threats, and in the West, women can'f legally be forced to wear burkas.
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Postby Redsection » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Sure i can carry small arms in regular clothing,but i'm very sure i can hide a bombers vest under my t-shirt.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Redsection wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:No, that's kind of a cunt thing to do. They may be ugly as all hell, but women have a right to wear what they want.

But what do you think, OP?


Nope,and it's not the woman's choice.

In what way is it not the woman's choice?
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Postby Ontorisa » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

No.

They're symbols of the Islamic Faith. Therefore by banning them, it's taking away the Freedom of Religion in basically every western nation's charter. That's like countries banning the cross, those funny Jewish hats or swag beards. It's putrid and disgusting if you do such a thing to someone. They may not like it (if they don't, they always find alternative things to wear like the Hijab), even then, it's none of your damn business to interfere in a religion you don't understand. I don't butt my nose into Hinduism, Buddhism or Orthodoxy and yell at them that their religious symbols should be banned.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Nothing says that you care about women and their rights like forcing them to wear less than they are comfortable with.
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Postby Aelex » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Yes. Burqa and Niqab should be banned. At least if you value secularism more than sectarianism.
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Postby Rhodevus » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Redsection wrote:Sure i can carry small arms in regular clothing,but i'm very sure i can hide a bombers vest under my t-shirt.


how about under a suit? Or baggy clothes? Is the next thing to ban baggy sweatshirts?
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Postby Qart chadast » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Redsection wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:No, that's kind of a cunt thing to do. They may be ugly as all hell, but women have a right to wear what they want.

But what do you think, OP?


Nope,and it's not the woman's choice.


And let me guess, you asked those women that yourself? I bet not cause they will tell you different.

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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Redsection wrote:Sure i can carry small arms in regular clothing,but i'm very sure i can hide a bombers vest under my t-shirt.


No, but you can under a jacket...

I'm getting a very strong "Muslims = terrorists" vibe here, friend.
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Postby Talvezout » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:20 pm

Banning burkas, nein sir.
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Postby Redsection » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:21 pm

The Nuclear Fist wrote:
Redsection wrote:
Nope,and it's not the woman's choice.

In what way is it not the woman's choice?


You must not know how islam works for women. Have you heard of their Honor killings agianst women who don't want to wear a heavy piece of wool or cotton in 90-100 degree weather.
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