Windows 10 is upon us!

[The Archregimancy]

See the previous post - I think it may have been my Razer mouse driver. Unplugging the mouse during the boot-up seems to have solved the problem.


The computer itself is a fairly new (at most 7 months old) reasonably high-end Lenovo; it was advertised as a gaming laptop, but I use it for multimedia academic editing.

Ok. Memory shouldn't be the issue then. The mouse is interesting. We haven't seen that yet and we have all flavors. But, if you still see an issue; nvlddmkm.sys is part of Nvidia stuff. One thing to try.....

Righty-ho; will do that too.

[Neutraligon]

Has the system had memory issues?

See the previous post - I think it may have been my Razer mouse driver. Unplugging the mouse during the boot-up seems to have solved the problem.


The computer itself is a fairly new (at most 7 months old) reasonably high-end Lenovo; it was advertised as a gaming laptop, but I use it for multimedia academic editing.

Odd, I had a razer mouse attached and had no issue other than the graphics one. I wonder if it because I built my own PC. On odd thing I have been seeing is that alt tabbing is causing some issues, twice already it has made the graphics card crash and recover.

[The Archregimancy]

See the previous post - I think it may have been my Razer mouse driver. Unplugging the mouse during the boot-up seems to have solved the problem.


The computer itself is a fairly new (at most 7 months old) reasonably high-end Lenovo; it was advertised as a gaming laptop, but I use it for multimedia academic editing.

Odd, I had a razer mouse attached and had no issue other than the graphics one. I wonder if it because I built my own PC. On odd thing I have been seeing is that alt tabbing is causing some issues, twice already it has made the graphics card crash and recover.

All I can say is that searching for the error messages led me to forums where at least one person had reported a near identical problem with Windows 8 a couple of years ago that had been caused by a Razer mouse driver.

Also, when I turned on the updated computer for the first time this morning, the Razer mouse driver start-up screen appeared as a window over the Windows 10 upgrade start-up screen, further suggesting some sort of connection.

I won't pretend to be absolutely certain that this was the cause since I don't pretend to be even remotely technologically capable; but unplugging the mouse did solve the problem.

However, to be super-safe, I'm also following The Black Forrest's advice over Nvidia.

[The Archregimancy]

Still... quirky.

I am definitely running the most up to date version of Nvidia (I checked) rather than the slightly earlier version that was causing problems for a lot of people.

Last attempt at booting up did crash the first couple of times - despite the mouse not being plugged in - but then plugging the mouse in and taking it out again did seem to do the job; again.

I've checked Razer's website, and it does seem that earlier versions of Razer Synapse weren't compatible with Windows 10, so I've now installed the most up to date version.

I'll see if that works the next time I shut down and then turn on again.


Apologies for slightly taking over the thread with the last few posts, but A) I thought other people might benefit from seeing this if they have similar problems and B) it allows me to access the details of my problem from any other computer if I need to access them when this one is having a fit.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Still... quirky.

I am definitely running the most up to date version of Nvidia (I checked) rather than the slightly earlier version that was causing problems for a lot of people.

Last attempt at booting up did crash the first couple of times - despite the mouse not being plugged in - but then plugging the mouse in and taking it out again did seem to do the job; again.

I've checked Razer's website, and it does seem that earlier versions of Razer Synapse weren't compatible with Windows 10, so I've now installed the most up to date version.

I'll see if that works the next time I shut down and then turn on again.


Apologies for slightly taking over the thread with the last few posts, but A) I thought other people might benefit from seeing this if they have similar problems and B) it allows me to access the details of my problem from any other computer if I need to access them when this one is having a fit.

I don't see anything wrong with it.

You should see the threads forming in Windows forums over Windows 10 problems and questions

[Ensydia]

Already upgraded and I must say, it's not half bad! It could use some more UI customization however, other than that it's just like Windows 7 with better start time and more features.

[Luna Amore]

I am definitely running the most up to date version of Nvidia (I checked) rather than the slightly earlier version that was causing problems for a lot of people.

Have you tried completely removing the video driver, restarting and letting Windows reinstall it?

[The Black Forrest]

I am definitely running the most up to date version of Nvidia (I checked) rather than the slightly earlier version that was causing problems for a lot of people.

Have you tried completely removing the video driver, restarting and letting Windows reinstall it?

That was the next suggestion. In the early testing I did find a few vendor drivers that were not ready and the drivers on the installer worked without issue.

[Pandeeria]

Yeah, one or two of my tech-savvy friends who are testing it out aren't precisely thrilled by it so far.

I am liking it better then win 8. What do they not like?

I'm liking it more than Windows 8 was well.

Though at least from my perspective, someone who mainly just games, browses the internet and e-mail, Windows 10 feels more like just a Windows 8.2

I like though how now if you click on the little windows icon in the bottom left side of the screen, it doesn't bring you to a entirely different page shoved full of tiles. The OS feels more slick and integrated together now.

[Reploid Productions]

Yeah, one or two of my tech-savvy friends who are testing it out aren't precisely thrilled by it so far.

I am liking it better then win 8. What do they not like?

As one of them put it, "Big Bother is watching (not a typo)," and several of them are really big on privacy and security. Haven't heard anything from the one guy I know who's suuuuper into cybersecurity on it yet. But I figure I'm happy with 7 on my desktop, and XP on my (dying, needs to be replaced very soon anyway) laptop. I'll withhold my own judgment on Windows 10 until it's been out for a bit and I've had a chance to try it out. But yeah, not in any great hurry to upgrade.

[Val Halla]

I think Windows 9 wasn't released because they were making it, but it was such a mess they didn't actually put it out.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I am liking it better then win 8. What do they not like?

As one of them put it, "Big Bother is watching (not a typo)," and several of them are really big on privacy and security. Haven't heard anything from the one guy I know who's suuuuper into cybersecurity on it yet. But I figure I'm happy with 7 on my desktop, and XP on my (dying, needs to be replaced very soon anyway) laptop. I'll withhold my own judgment on Windows 10 until it's been out for a bit and I've had a chance to try it out. But yeah, not in any great hurry to upgrade.

I don't think it actually makes much sense that Microsoft is monitoring.

Do they have any evidence that Microsoft has planted things like keyloggers and other stuff into the OS?

[Highfort]

I am liking it better then win 8. What do they not like?

As one of them put it, "Big Bother is watching (not a typo)," and several of them are really big on privacy and security. Haven't heard anything from the one guy I know who's suuuuper into cybersecurity on it yet. But I figure I'm happy with 7 on my desktop, and XP on my (dying, needs to be replaced very soon anyway) laptop. I'll withhold my own judgment on Windows 10 until it's been out for a bit and I've had a chance to try it out. But yeah, not in any great hurry to upgrade.

They probably mean the fact that when you install, Microsoft has lots of options for sending them data (I disabled a few on first setup, but it was unsettling how much data they would like sent from my computer) and the fact that overall it's more integrated with your Microsoft account (there's an option for allowing you to auto-connect to networks that your contacts have).

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As one of them put it, "Big Bother is watching (not a typo)," and several of them are really big on privacy and security. Haven't heard anything from the one guy I know who's suuuuper into cybersecurity on it yet. But I figure I'm happy with 7 on my desktop, and XP on my (dying, needs to be replaced very soon anyway) laptop. I'll withhold my own judgment on Windows 10 until it's been out for a bit and I've had a chance to try it out. But yeah, not in any great hurry to upgrade.

They probably mean the fact that when you install, Microsoft has lots of options for sending them data (I disabled a few on first setup, but it was unsettling how much data they would like sent from my computer) and the fact that overall it's more integrated with your Microsoft account (there's an option for allowing you to auto-connect to networks that your contacts have).

You can actually make local accounts and disable your Microsoft account.

[Highfort]

They probably mean the fact that when you install, Microsoft has lots of options for sending them data (I disabled a few on first setup, but it was unsettling how much data they would like sent from my computer) and the fact that overall it's more integrated with your Microsoft account (there's an option for allowing you to auto-connect to networks that your contacts have).

You can actually make local accounts and disable your Microsoft account.

You can, but the idea is that the OS is heavily integrated with your Microsoft account and making local accounts is an alternative, not the default. The majority of Windows 10 users will have Microsoft accounts and, for those with multiple computers (like myself) having a Microsoft account is actually kind of helpful so I can share things between computers without needing to fiddle with network settings.

[Grenartia]

I am liking it better then win 8. What do they not like?

I'm liking it more than Windows 8 was well.

Though at least from my perspective, someone who mainly just games, browses the internet and e-mail, Windows 10 feels more like just a Windows 8.2

I like though how now if you click on the little windows icon in the bottom left side of the screen, it doesn't bring you to a entirely different page shoved full of tiles. The OS feels more slick and integrated together now.

8+2 =10. Windows 10 is therefore Windows 8.2. Illuminati confirmed.

[Jaxukuk]

Right. I finally got it - after reinstalling 8.1 and then installing 10 on top of it.
I don't like it.

- They're watching your every move (I decoupled my MS account from Windows now)
- It still seems a bit glitchy and slow at times
- They have that new P2P update thingy (promptly disabled)
- Cortana seems to be everywhere
- I can't get rid of the XBox app or the Music app - I'll have to figure out a way to forcefully remove them
- The Start Menu is gonna take some getting used to
- The first time my installation rebooted, it reported that it couldn't load the kernel (another reinstall)

I was greatly frustrated with myself when I realised that I had somehow re-installed the 32-bit version of Win10 instead of the 64-bit version. Not that that's MS's fault.

So yeah, turns out it was overhyped. Should have stuck with 8.1.

It's sad that this will be the last version of Windows.

[Jaxukuk]

The OS feels more slick and integrated together now.

Integrated?
I feel that it's far from it.
You have to set the system colours etc. in 'Settings', which is a 'Modern' style 'app', but to change the theme it opens the normal desktop Control Panel! What‽

Ridiculous: consistency matters.

[UnitedRP]

They still haven't sufficiently explained why it's beneficial to upgrade from Windows 7.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

They still haven't sufficiently explained why it's beneficial to upgrade from Windows 7.

If you want the latest software releases only, really.

That's pretty much the point of why the hype for the change from Windows 7 to 8, as well.

[Ainin]

The OS feels more slick and integrated together now.

Integrated?
I feel that it's far from it.
You have to set the system colours etc. in 'Settings', which is a 'Modern' style 'app', but to change the theme it opens the normal desktop Control Panel! What‽

Ridiculous: consistency matters.

That was a big problem of Windows 8, where many features actively doubled each other (devices and printers, add VPN connection, WiFi, etc.), and has gotten significantly better with Windows 10. Sure, there's still a couple of things where the Control Panel is still used, but on the whole, it's gotten a lot better.

The straggling features are getting removed in future updates anyways. That's the point of Windows as a Service.

[Jaxukuk]

They still haven't sufficiently explained why it's beneficial to upgrade from Windows 7.

Because it means they can spy on you more easily.

[Jaxukuk]

Integrated?
I feel that it's far from it.
You have to set the system colours etc. in 'Settings', which is a 'Modern' style 'app', but to change the theme it opens the normal desktop Control Panel! What‽

Ridiculous: consistency matters.

That was a big problem of Windows 8, where many features actively doubled each other (devices and printers, add VPN connection, WiFi, etc.), and has gotten significantly better with Windows 10. Sure, there's still a couple of things where the Control Panel is still used, but on the whole, it's gotten a lot better.

The straggling features are getting removed in future updates anyways. That's the point of Windows as a Service.

But I liked it that way. That way I could choose which interface was best for different tasks.

[Ardoki]

I installed it yesterday.

However with Windows 8, my computer booted super fast. Windows 10 is significantly slower booting-up (and also during and just after logging on) for me. I don't know why, it is kind of annoying, perhaps an update will fix it?

[Ainin]

That was a big problem of Windows 8, where many features actively doubled each other (devices and printers, add VPN connection, WiFi, etc.), and has gotten significantly better with Windows 10. Sure, there's still a couple of things where the Control Panel is still used, but on the whole, it's gotten a lot better.

The straggling features are getting removed in future updates anyways. That's the point of Windows as a Service.

But I liked it that way. That way I could choose which interface was best for different tasks.

Well you and no one else, apparently.