Cecil the Lion - Killed by American Tourist

[Gun Manufacturers]

Substantive? You can't make that claim when your arguments are basically your opinions.

Many people have views about trophy hunting. Was that a good idea for his business?

Many people have views about luring an animal out of a protected area so you can try and kill it. Was that a good idea for his business?

Many people have views about an animal left to suffer for 40 hours. Was that a good idea for his business?

That's one of the drawbacks of Social media for douche bags......

On the 40 hours thing, he and his guides were actively stalking the lion trying to put it out of its Misery for those 40 hours, so aside from the stupidity of using a bow on a lion, the 40 hours of pain was not his intent, and did attempt to end its suffering as quickly as he was able.

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

[Padnak]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

[Scyobayrynn]

On the 40 hours thing, he and his guides were actively stalking the lion trying to put it out of its Misery for those 40 hours, so aside from the stupidity of using a bow on a lion, the 40 hours of pain was not his intent, and did attempt to end its suffering as quickly as he was able.

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

Bow hunt bear and boars.
Usually you carry a secondary firearm to save yourself... I personally don't see the point in hunting a lion at all, unless you live there and its been endangering your community. Other than that, why bother.

[Greed and Death]

On the 40 hours thing, he and his guides were actively stalking the lion trying to put it out of its Misery for those 40 hours, so aside from the stupidity of using a bow on a lion, the 40 hours of pain was not his intent, and did attempt to end its suffering as quickly as he was able.

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

Typically the guide has a large gauge rifle in case you just make the lion angry.


There are also people who bow hunt elephants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo93h2KBKMw

Its the new fad in big game hunting. One I find plainly unethical as it almost always prolongs the suffering of the create since they are too large for a bow.

[Scyobayrynn]

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

Typically the guide has a large gauge rifle in case you just make the lion angry.


There are also people who bow hunt elephants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo93h2KBKMw

Its the new fad in big game hunting. One I find plainly unethical as it almost always prolongs the suffering of the create since they are too large for a bow.

Bow hunting an elephant is... Just wrong. It's sadistic you can't kill an elephant with a single arrow I don't care how good you are.

[MERIZoC]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

I might easily say that of any other issue. Doesn't mean it's not a problem that needs addressing.

[Sociobiology]

Where the fuck was the public outcry against killing lions 30 years ago? Five months ago? And all of a sudden some fucking animal with a name gets covered by the media and all of a sudden people go bat shit crazy over a fucking animal.

Honest to god this type of shit goes on everyday yet one damn lion with a name that happened to be a tourist favorite gets killed, all of a sudden all these people and fake ass animal rights groups up and care and condone these people releasing this guy's phone number, address not just his place of business but his actual home address, his wife and kids' names all while people are harassing him for doing what essentially goes on there every single fucking day.

So yeah, a lion was killed today, big fucking deal, that's not unique in and of it'self. Crap like that goes on there everyday and yet basically a brand name lion gets killed and everyone suddenly cares.

More to the point, where's the outrage about the millions of sheep, goats, cows, oxen, chicken, cod, salmon, etc. that get slaughtered on a daily basis?

you mean animals which are protected strict laws about how they can be killed in order to minimize suffering?
imagine if he had done the same thing at a zoo here in the US.

[Salus Maior]

On the 40 hours thing, he and his guides were actively stalking the lion trying to put it out of its Misery for those 40 hours, so aside from the stupidity of using a bow on a lion, the 40 hours of pain was not his intent, and did attempt to end its suffering as quickly as he was able.

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

Well, what do you think they killed lions with before gunpowder?

[Mavorpen]

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

Well, what do you think they killed lions with before gunpowder?

Lasers.

[Marxist Nations]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

Well by that logic...

John Doe is some guy

He got shot

There are many many people on this planet

A few get killed

And the world keeps on turning ...


It's, in large part, because of people who JUST DONT CARE why this world is so shitty. Sure he may have been one lion, but this is a great opportunity to point out the slaughter of many unique and dwindling number of endangered species on this Earth.
COME ON PEOPLE!!! ONCE THEIR GONE... THEIR GONE!!!

[Page]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

Well by that logic...

John Doe is some guy

He got shot

There are many many people on this planet

A few get killed

And the world keeps on turning ...


It's, in large part, because of people who JUST DONT CARE why this world is so shitty. Sure he may have been one lion, but this is a great opportunity to point out the slaughter of many unique and dwindling number of endangered species on this Earth.
COME ON PEOPLE!!! ONCE THEIR GONE... THEIR GONE!!!

*they're

[Marxist Nations]

Well by that logic...

John Doe is some guy

He got shot

There are many many people on this planet

A few get killed

And the world keeps on turning ...


It's, in large part, because of people who JUST DONT CARE why this world is so shitty. Sure he may have been one lion, but this is a great opportunity to point out the slaughter of many unique and dwindling number of endangered species on this Earth.
COME ON PEOPLE!!! ONCE THEIR GONE... THEIR GONE!!!

*they're

Thank you

[Lydenburg]

There are animals here in Southern Africa that need to be culled. Why don't they stick to charging foreigners for shooting Cape Buffalo and the like as opposed to rarer species like Zim lions?

Anyroad, Zim has a huge poaching problem as it is. Cecil is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Lydenburg]

On the 40 hours thing, he and his guides were actively stalking the lion trying to put it out of its Misery for those 40 hours, so aside from the stupidity of using a bow on a lion, the 40 hours of pain was not his intent, and did attempt to end its suffering as quickly as he was able.

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

The Bushmen hunt Cape Buffalo with spear and bow, and they're considered more dangerous game than lion.

[Laerod]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

So what you're saying is that killing a lion is a bigger crime worthy of more attention than the murder of a human?

[Neo Philippine Empire]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

You're a man

You get shot

There are many men

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

[Washington Resistance Army]

Its a lion

It got shot

There are many lions

They also get shot

And the world keeps on turning

You're a man

There are many men

You get shot

And the world keeps on turning

Yes, it does. Death doesn't stop how these things work

[New Grestin]

I mean, yeah, it sucks. Lions are pretty badly endangered, so it would have been nice if he'd shot, I dunno, literally anything else.

Fuck's sake, I mean, there's animals all over the goddamned place in the US and he had to go and kill a lion?

I guess a deer just doesn't give you that "most dangerous game" murder boner the same way a lion does.

[Kaztropol]

it is possible to combine the hunting/tracking experience, with conservation.

By allowing people to pay to be the tranquilliser rifleman, when the wildlife rangers do their rounds in the national parks and such.

All the fun of tracking down a specific animal and getting close enough to take the shot, but without killing the animal.

No trophies, except photos and memories though, I guess, vOv

[Ethel mermania]

I mean, yeah, it sucks. Lions are pretty badly endangered, so it would have been nice if he'd shot, I dunno, literally anything else.

Fuck's sake, I mean, there's animals all over the goddamned place in the US and he had to go and kill a lion?

I guess a deer just doesn't give you that "most dangerous game" murder boner the same way a lion does.

African lions are not considered endangered.

[Greed and Death]

I never understood that. I mean, if you're bowhunting deer from a tree stand, that's one thing. But to use a bow to go after something that can rip a person limb from limb seems a little crazy to me.

The Bushmen hunt Cape Buffalo with spear and bow, and they're considered more dangerous game than lion.

Typically in with a group of people working as a team with multiple arrows and they are also not concerned about preserving the face of the animal for a trophy.

[New Grestin]

I mean, yeah, it sucks. Lions are pretty badly endangered, so it would have been nice if he'd shot, I dunno, literally anything else.

Fuck's sake, I mean, there's animals all over the goddamned place in the US and he had to go and kill a lion?

I guess a deer just doesn't give you that "most dangerous game" murder boner the same way a lion does.

African lions are not considered endangered.

I think the point that he shouldn't of shot the lion in the first place still stands.

There's plenty of other big game that he could have killed that didn't require paying off guards or flying to Africa and pissing the entire internet off.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I mean, yeah, it sucks. Lions are pretty badly endangered, so it would have been nice if he'd shot, I dunno, literally anything else.

Fuck's sake, I mean, there's animals all over the goddamned place in the US and he had to go and kill a lion?

I guess a deer just doesn't give you that "most dangerous game" murder boner the same way a lion does.

If he wants big game he could go to Iraq and hunt the most dangerous animal on the planet. At least then he would be doing something useful

But yeah, I can agree that there's plenty of others animals he could have gone to hunt.

[Ethel mermania]

African lions are not considered endangered.

I think the point that he shouldn't of shot the lion in the first place still stands.

There's plenty of other big game that he could have killed that didn't require paying off guards or flying to Africa and pissing the entire internet off.

If the point is no hunting, it stands. It's wrong but it is at least a consistent point. Otherwise, no it does not, it's hypocrisy.

It's a lion, not an endangered s0ecies, the government gave him a permit to hunt the lion. If there was no evidence of the lion being lead out of the sanctuary, no one has any bitch at all. Don't like lion hunting go bitch at mugabe, it's his government allowing it.

[New Grestin]

I mean, yeah, it sucks. Lions are pretty badly endangered, so it would have been nice if he'd shot, I dunno, literally anything else.

Fuck's sake, I mean, there's animals all over the goddamned place in the US and he had to go and kill a lion?

I guess a deer just doesn't give you that "most dangerous game" murder boner the same way a lion does.

If he wants big game he could go to Iraq and hunt the most dangerous animal on the planet. At least then he would be doing something useful :p

But yeah, I can agree that there's plenty of others animals he could have gone to hunt.

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