Islamic State Crisis Megathread (ISIS/ISIL/IS) II

[Baltenstein]

Ahrar al-Sham and Jaysh al-Islam are invited to talks in Saudi Arabia but the Kurds aren't.

The Arab world's message to the Kurds:

Dear Kurds,

fuck you.

Kind regards,

the Arab world.

[Novus America]

Revenge on the Russians who probably bombed them?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/08/wo ... oogle.com/

Are the Russian targeting systems seriously that shit?

Even the best targeting systems can miss. And they are only as good as the user. Bombing is grossly overrated and inherently prone to error. That being said the Russians are heavily relying on unguided bombs dropped from obsolete airplanes.

[Baltenstein]

Are the Russian targeting systems seriously that shit?

Even the best targeting systems can miss. And they are only as good as the user. Bombing is grossly overrated and inherently prone to error. That being said the Russians are heavily relying on unguided bombs dropped from obsolete airplanes.

Whoever gets the reference wins a cookie.

[Trollgaard]

Are the Russian targeting systems seriously that shit?

Even the best targeting systems can miss. And they are only as good as the user. Bombing is grossly overrated and inherently prone to error. That being said the Russians are heavily relying on unguided bombs dropped from obsolete airplanes.

They're doing what the US should do, but we should one up them. Operation linebacker iii. Obliterate ISIS positions and cities under thousands of tons of bombs.

edit: And we'd be doing with some of the same planes that flew in operations linebacker I and II!

[Novus America]

Even the best targeting systems can miss. And they are only as good as the user. Bombing is grossly overrated and inherently prone to error. That being said the Russians are heavily relying on unguided bombs dropped from obsolete airplanes.

They're doing what the US should do, but we should one up them. Operation linebacker iii. Obliterate ISIS positions and cities under thousands of tons of bombs.

edit: And we'd be doing with some of the same planes that flew in operations linebacker I and II!

We should bomb our allies and civillians?

[Trollgaard]

They're doing what the US should do, but we should one up them. Operation linebacker iii. Obliterate ISIS positions and cities under thousands of tons of bombs.

edit: And we'd be doing with some of the same planes that flew in operations linebacker I and II!

We should bomb our allies and civillians?

Not our allies, but but if ISIS controls a town that is the line of advance for the Peshmerga (sp?) or other forces fighting ISIS and its shown that ISIS is holding the town...flatten it.

[Salus Maior]

Not our allies, but but if ISIS controls a town that is the line of advance for the Peshmerga (sp?) or other forces fighting ISIS and its shown that ISIS is holding the town...flatten it.

That is an idiotic idea. Why are we fighting ISIS if not to protect the innocent people being persecuted by them?

If we adhered to such a plan, we'd be no better than them.

[Salus Maior]

Even the best targeting systems can miss. And they are only as good as the user. Bombing is grossly overrated and inherently prone to error. That being said the Russians are heavily relying on unguided bombs dropped from obsolete airplanes.

Whoever gets the reference wins a cookie.

...Is that...Tailspin?

[Ganos Lao]

Ahrar al-Sham and Jaysh al-Islam are invited to talks in Saudi Arabia but the Kurds aren't.

The Arab world's message to the Kurds:

Dear Kurds,

fuck you.

Kind regards,

the Arab world.

And the West's message to the Kurds would be:

Dear Kurds,

We're supporting the Arabs. Go fuck yourselves.

Kind regards,

The West.

The Kurds are being shut out by the Arabs, and the West will all be too happy to help them out in doing that, because they'd rather maintain this notion of the guys enabling radical Islamic terrorism throughout the world are actually friends.

[Baltenstein]

(Image)

Whoever gets the reference wins a cookie.

...Is that...Tailspin?

Your cookies, good sir.

[Salus Maior]

...Is that...Tailspin?

Your cookies, good sir.

Yay I miss that show.

It's a weird concept if you really think about it though. Jungle Book characters + WWII era planes?

[Ganos Lao]

The United States explictly refuses to even consider partitioning Iraq.

The US Embassy in Baghdad issued a statement Sunday saying recent reports suggesting that the Congress would be voting on the partition of Iraq were “simply untrue.”

“The U.S. government has consistently supported and remains committed to the unity of Iraq, and has regularly spoken out against foreign interference in Iraq’s sovereign affairs,” the statement said.

Just as I expected.

Also:

Iran’s Leader Ayatollah Khamenei tells the visiting Iraqi president that Americans should not be allowed to even consider partitioning Iraq.

Russia says it will never accept the partition of Iraq.

Iraqi lawyers are trying to get al-Maliki put on trial as a war criminal.

[Korhal IVV]

http://www.nationstates.net/region=isla ... _and_syria

Confirmed, they are ISIS members spreading their poison

[Gauthier]

http://www.nationstates.net/region=islamic_state_in_iraq_and_syria

Confirmed, they are ISIS members spreading their poison

It's paradoxical really. On the one hand they're brilliant for setting up propaganda on website most of the internet ignores.

On the other hand, the second NationStates reaches the fame level of reddit and tumblr you know DHS is going to be swarming in like bees.

[Ganos Lao]

http://www.nationstates.net/region=islamic_state_in_iraq_and_syria

Confirmed, they are ISIS members spreading their poison

It's paradoxical really. On the one hand they're brilliant for setting up propaganda on website most of the internet ignores.

On the other hand, the second NationStates reaches the fame level of reddit and tumblr you know DHS is going to be swarming in like bees.

Assuming these are actual ISIS members (and if so, why don't they come onto these megathreads?), I wonder why the mods don't lay down the hammer.

I mean, wasn't the Greater German Reich banned or something over Nazism?

[Gauthier]

It's paradoxical really. On the one hand they're brilliant for setting up propaganda on website most of the internet ignores.

On the other hand, the second NationStates reaches the fame level of reddit and tumblr you know DHS is going to be swarming in like bees.

Assuming these are actual ISIS members (and if so, why don't they come onto these megathreads?), I wonder why the mods don't lay down the hammer.

I mean, wasn't the Greater German Reich banned or something over Nazism?

Oh please, this is the same site where swastikas (even Buddhist ones) are banned but anyone can use the Daesh flag at their leisure. And that's just the lightest of the oversights made in its history.

[Ugatoo]

Assuming these are actual ISIS members (and if so, why don't they come onto these megathreads?), I wonder why the mods don't lay down the hammer.

I mean, wasn't the Greater German Reich banned or something over Nazism?

Oh please, this is the same site where swastikas (even Buddhist ones) are banned but anyone can use the Daesh flag at their leisure. And that's just the lightest of the oversights made in its history.

Yeah you really have to either ban everything or ban nothing.

[Ganos Lao]

Assuming these are actual ISIS members (and if so, why don't they come onto these megathreads?), I wonder why the mods don't lay down the hammer.

I mean, wasn't the Greater German Reich banned or something over Nazism?

Oh please, this is the same site where swastikas (even Buddhist ones) are banned but anyone can use the Daesh flag at their leisure. And that's just the lightest of the oversights made in its history.

What I meant was that if we can confirm they are actual ISIS members, then why aren't the mods laying down the hammer. As far as I know, the mods know of the region, but haven't taken any concrete stance just yet nor do we know if this is just a roleplay region (IIRC the GGR was one itself) or if they are actual ISIS members.

Oh please, this is the same site where swastikas (even Buddhist ones) are banned but anyone can use the Daesh flag at their leisure. And that's just the lightest of the oversights made in its history.

Yeah you really have to either ban everything or ban nothing.

IIRC it's because Nazism triggers people that badly that they'd mistake the Buddhist swastika for Hitler adoration.

But the Hammer and Sickle, Daesh flag, etc is all fine and dandy.

[Alvecia]

Oh please, this is the same site where swastikas (even Buddhist ones) are banned but anyone can use the Daesh flag at their leisure. And that's just the lightest of the oversights made in its history.

What I meant was that if we can confirm they are actual ISIS members, then why aren't the mods laying down the hammer. As far as I know, the mods know of the region, but haven't taken any concrete stance just yet nor do we know if this is just a roleplay region (IIRC the GGR was one itself) or if they are actual ISIS members.

Yeah you really have to either ban everything or ban nothing.

IIRC it's because Nazism triggers people that badly that they'd mistake the Buddhist swastika for Hitler adoration.

But the Hammer and Sickle, Daesh flag, etc is all fine and dandy.

The mod team has already very thoroughly explained their reasoning here

[Ganos Lao]

What I meant was that if we can confirm they are actual ISIS members, then why aren't the mods laying down the hammer. As far as I know, the mods know of the region, but haven't taken any concrete stance just yet nor do we know if this is just a roleplay region (IIRC the GGR was one itself) or if they are actual ISIS members.



IIRC it's because Nazism triggers people that badly that they'd mistake the Buddhist swastika for Hitler adoration.

But the Hammer and Sickle, Daesh flag, etc is all fine and dandy.

The mod team has already very thoroughly explained their reasoning here

I think I'm already aware of their reasoning, thank you.

You'd think the Daesh flag would automatically be seen as "celebrate (celebrating) violence against RL people," though.

[Geilinor]

Putin said something very odd today. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35070354

In an update on Russian operations, Mr Putin said the military was now supporting Free Syrian Army (FSA) forces - which are fighting President Assad and have been bombed by Russia.
However, a Kremlin spokesman later appeared to contradict this, saying Russia was supplying weapons to "the legitimate authorities of the Syrian Arab Republic".

He's almost certainly lying.

[The balkens]

Putin said something very odd today. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35070354

In an update on Russian operations, Mr Putin said the military was now supporting Free Syrian Army (FSA) forces - which are fighting President Assad and have been bombed by Russia.
However, a Kremlin spokesman later appeared to contradict this, saying Russia was supplying weapons to "the legitimate authorities of the Syrian Arab Republic".

He's almost certainly lying.

ALMOST CERTAINLY!?

[Gauthier]

Putin said something very odd today. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35070354

He's almost certainly lying.

ALMOST CERTAINLY!?

About which? If Putin is supplying the FSA then that means Bashar done fucked up.

[Visegradian Poland]

Putin said something very odd today. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35070354

He's almost certainly lying.

ALMOST CERTAINLY!?

Putin isn't exactly honest. At all.

[Geilinor]

Putin said something very odd today. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35070354

He's almost certainly lying.

ALMOST CERTAINLY!?

Putin isn't the most predictable guy.