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Are the IRA Heroes?

Postby The Neo-Hellenic Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:04 pm

Gerry Adams, ex-IRA member, patriot, and hero to the Irish people. It was only in 2006 that he was removed from the US terrorist watchlist, something I find he should have never been on in the first place.

The Irish Republican Army, from '17 to '94 they fought to free my beautiful country, but alas the terrorist armies of Britannia were victorious.

That wasn't the case for the first War of Independence when Britannia's sons were forced back to London, and the RA was victorious. The Brits have called them terrorists in spite of their heroic victory, so NSG, do you think the RA were terrorists, or heroes?

If you couldn't tell, I find them to be incredibly heroic and its no surprise the people of Ireland love them. Tiocfaidh Ar La! Sing up the RA!
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:05 pm

Is the Taliban a group of freedom fighters?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:05 pm

Terrorist armies of Britannia?

Are you referring to the paramilities, the incidents in which the army engaged in what could be called terrorism, or are you calling them terrorists outright?
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Postby The Northumbrian Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:06 pm

What is their policy on the Falklands/Malvinas?

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Postby Benuty » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:06 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Is the Taliban a group of freedom fighters?

A better example would be the organized resistance in Germany following the unconditional surrender of the government to the victorious powers.
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Postby United facist States of America » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:06 pm

Yes and ISIS is just a group of freedom fighters.
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Postby Talvezout » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:07 pm

The Northumbrian Republic wrote:What is their policy on the Falklands/Malvinas?


Hush.

Eh, I could see the pros and cons for both sides regarding the troubles.

Point being, no one side were heroes.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:07 pm

The Northumbrian Republic wrote:What is their policy on the Falklands/Malvinas?

How does that matter?
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Postby Nipponretto » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:07 pm

The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:The Irish Republican Army, from '17 to '94 they fought to free my beautiful country, but alas the terrorist armies of Britannia were victorious.


My sides.

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Postby The Neo-Hellenic Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:08 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Northumbrian Republic wrote:What is their policy on the Falklands/Malvinas?

How does that matter?

I made this thread after he asked me to atop threadjacking when I was talking to Rhodesia.

And they support the Malvinas! MALVINAS SON ARGENTINA , LA MUERTE DE BRETAÑA
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Postby New Yuktobanian Republics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:08 pm

Terrorist scum.
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Postby Elredan » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:09 pm

The original IRA (During the Irish civil war between Eamon and Michael) actually made sense, the offshoots are extremists.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:09 pm

Not even a page in, and inverse Godwin is already in effect.

Now if you lot would kindly stop with the thread jack.
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Postby The Neo-Hellenic Republic » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:10 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Is the Taliban a group of freedom fighters?

No the Taliban is an Islamist extremist terrorist group.

New Yuktobanian Republics wrote:Terrorist scum.

Yeah, the British soldiers who massacred women and children in Derry.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:12 pm

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:12 pm

The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:Gerry Adams, ex-IRA member, patriot, and hero to the Irish people.

Not to the WHOLE Irish people, I guess. Not even to the whole population of the RoI.

Also, no, terrorist tactics, even for the best of goals, don't really go together with heroism. So, we can safely say that the IRA as a whole weren't heroes.
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Postby United facist States of America » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:12 pm

The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:Is the Taliban a group of freedom fighters?

No the Taliban is an Islamist extremist terrorist group.

New Yuktobanian Republics wrote:Terrorist scum.

Yeah, the British soldiers who massacred women and children in Derry.

Because the IRA totally never killed civilians.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:13 pm

Nipponretto wrote:
The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:The Irish Republican Army, from '17 to '94 they fought to free my beautiful country, but alas the terrorist armies of Britannia were victorious.


My sides.

I wonder If he realizes the majority of people in NI wanted to stay a part of the UK. that said I respect the Michael Collins IRA, the PIRA fit every textbook definition of terrorism known to man.
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Postby New Yuktobanian Republics » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:13 pm

The Neo-Hellenic Republic wrote:
New Yuktobanian Republics wrote:Terrorist scum.

Yeah, the British soldiers who massacred women and children in Derry.

That makes them terrorist scum too.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:13 pm

I could make a reasonably convincing argument that the PIRA/RIRA/CIRA etc. did more damage to the republican cause than anyone else, if only because their actions basically made the movement toxic.
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Postby Mirakai » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:15 pm

Didn't the IRA commit several acts of terrorism?
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:16 pm

Both sides were pretty shitty at times.

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Postby Insaeldor » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:16 pm

I'd have a lot more sympathy for them if they did not commit acts of mass terror. They are no better then any other terrorist group which has commit the same acts they have.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:17 pm

Mirakai wrote:Didn't the IRA commit several acts of terrorism?


Whether you define a group as terrorists or not depends largely on one's own point of view. The thread OP is an avowed Irish republican, so would probably disagree with you vocally on that point.
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Postby New Hellenica » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:18 pm

No they're fucking not. F*ck the IRA, Up the UVF. Rule Britannia.

The IRA are evil killers and terrorists. They bomb the innocent. They kill Protestants.

They're terrorists. Not freedom fighters.
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