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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 7:58 pm

Esceen wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Man, NS is way older than I thought it was.

Also, downvote.

Speaking of downvoting mods, welcome to reddit! Where if you are a mod and you remove a post for violating the rules, you're downvoted for no reason

I'm surprised I wasn't shadowbanned for that.

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Postby Sun Wukong » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:02 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Sooo... should I declare solidarity and rebel against the admins here? :unsure:

The Blaatschapen is revolting!
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:03 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Esceen wrote:Speaking of downvoting mods, welcome to reddit! Where if you are a mod and you remove a post for violating the rules, you're downvoted for no reason

I'm surprised I wasn't shadowbanned for that.

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Hey mate, you appear to be shadowbanned!

How many times have I said that? Idk. Probably at least 20 times

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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:09 pm

Even meltdowns on NS are cuter. Does anyone else remember that? Sometime earlier this year or late last year? Because I could swear some minor shitstorm happened where a couple of big users left but I can't find anything about it in my posts and I'm not about to use the Search function because I want to retain my sanity. Didn't even dint. Strong as ever.
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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:09 pm

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The Orson Empire wrote:It seems like Reddit's vote system was bound to be heavily abused. I honestly do not think it was a good idea.

Oh reason I doubt we'll EVER put a rating system for threads on our forums. We had one back on Jolt, and it was complete garbage.

Well it's not like karma actually even means anything anymore.
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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:11 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:Even meltdowns on NS are cuter. Does anyone else remember that? Sometime earlier this year or late last year? Because I could swear some minor shitstorm happened where a couple of big users left but I can't find anything about it in my posts and I'm not about to use the Search function because I want to retain my sanity. Didn't even dint. Strong as ever.

Whenever does one of those "screw you guys, I'm going home" threads, it's always someone we'd be better without.

Rarely do we permanently lose someone that's actually valuable to the community. It happens, yeah, but not very much.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:13 pm

Man, the entire notion of shadowbanning is seriously stupid. The idea of punishments is to remove and discourage problem behavior. A "secret" punishment like that literally serves no purpose but to troll whoever gets hit with one. At best, and this is seriously grasping at straws, I could see something like that being useful to blunt a particularly dedicated spam-attacker that just keeps making new accounts after the current one gets toasted. But even that's a stretch.
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Postby Thanatttynia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:13 pm

May Mays wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Oh reason I doubt we'll EVER put a rating system for threads on our forums. We had one back on Jolt, and it was complete garbage.

Well it's not like karma actually even means anything anymore.

Or ever meant anything.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:14 pm

New Grestin wrote:
Thanatttynia wrote:Even meltdowns on NS are cuter. Does anyone else remember that? Sometime earlier this year or late last year? Because I could swear some minor shitstorm happened where a couple of big users left but I can't find anything about it in my posts and I'm not about to use the Search function because I want to retain my sanity. Didn't even dint. Strong as ever.

Whenever does one of those "screw you guys, I'm going home" threads, it's always someone we'd be better without.

Rarely do we permanently lose someone that's actually valuable to the community. It happens, yeah, but not very much.


Someone's value can be measured by how many other people say "Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home" when he or she gets removed.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:15 pm

Holy fuck people are taking the ever-loving piss out of Ellen Pao on r/Pyongyang. It's hilarious.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:15 pm

Sebtopiaris wrote:Holy fuck people are taking the ever-loving piss out of Ellen Pao on r/Pyongyang. It's hilarious.


As long as someone isn't being lazy and resorting to tired old Asian stereotypes. Guaranteed that'll get reactionary defenses on her behalf.
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:16 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Man, the entire notion of shadowbanning is seriously stupid. The idea of punishments is to remove and discourage problem behavior. A "secret" punishment like that literally serves no purpose but to troll whoever gets hit with one. At best, and this is seriously grasping at straws, I could see something like that being useful to blunt a particularly dedicated spam-attacker that just keeps making new accounts after the current one gets toasted. But even that's a stretch.

That's what it was originally intended for, then it slowly turned into "Dissent? Shadowban for glorious reddit proletariat"

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Postby New Grestin » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:16 pm

Gauthier wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Whenever does one of those "screw you guys, I'm going home" threads, it's always someone we'd be better without.

Rarely do we permanently lose someone that's actually valuable to the community. It happens, yeah, but not very much.


Someone's value can be measured by how many other people say "Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home" when he or she gets removed.

Which, if memory serves is usually not many people. Troublemakers tend to not attract many allies around these parts.

"Hey, I'm here to troll NSG, do you know which way the Gay Marriage thread is?"
"Yeah, it's back the way you came."
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Kentucky Fried Land wrote:I should have known Grestin was Christopher Walken the whole time.
ThePub wrote:New Grestin: "I will always choose the aborable lesbians over an entire town."
Imperial Idaho wrote:And with 1-2 sentences Grestin has declared war on the national pride of Canada.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:16 pm

I'm just amused and somewhat incredulous at people losing their shit over their internet forum.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:17 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:I'm just amused and somewhat incredulous at people losing their shit over their internet forum.

Dude, didn't you hear? Internets is super srs bizness!
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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:18 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Man, the entire notion of shadowbanning is seriously stupid. The idea of punishments is to remove and discourage problem behavior. A "secret" punishment like that literally serves no purpose but to troll whoever gets hit with one. At best, and this is seriously grasping at straws, I could see something like that being useful to blunt a particularly dedicated spam-attacker that just keeps making new accounts after the current one gets toasted. But even that's a stretch.

Well the rules of Reddit are a lot more firm.

You get less chances than on NS. I guess it's because there is a serious lack of rules, the rules that there are, are expected to be taken much more seriously.

And honestly, the general Reddit rules and sub specific rules aren't things like NS where you need a mod to step in and figure out if it violates the rules or not; it's very clear when posts violate rules.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:18 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Man, the entire notion of shadowbanning is seriously stupid. The idea of punishments is to remove and discourage problem behavior. A "secret" punishment like that literally serves no purpose but to troll whoever gets hit with one. At best, and this is seriously grasping at straws, I could see something like that being useful to blunt a particularly dedicated spam-attacker that just keeps making new accounts after the current one gets toasted. But even that's a stretch.


Then again there is a counterpoint. When a persistent troll gets banned on NSG what happens? They make a new account and either do more of the same or just outright scrawl obscenities and link to disgusting snuff porn pics. With the shadowban the subject will won't realize that and will continue to troll in blissful ignorance.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:19 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Holy fuck people are taking the ever-loving piss out of Ellen Pao on r/Pyongyang. It's hilarious.


As long as someone isn't being lazy and resorting to tired old Asian stereotypes. Guaranteed that'll get reactionary defenses on her behalf.

http://i.imgur.com/oyU18x3.jpg

HAIL CHAIRMAN PAO!

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Postby Sebtopiaris » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:19 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Holy fuck people are taking the ever-loving piss out of Ellen Pao on r/Pyongyang. It's hilarious.


As long as someone isn't being lazy and resorting to tired old Asian stereotypes. Guaranteed that'll get reactionary defenses on her behalf.

I've only seen two Asian jokes so far out of a whole two pages of "how many years should pao be exiled to the moon?" and "one upvote= five punches". It looks good.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:20 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:I'm just amused and somewhat incredulous at people losing their shit over their internet forum.

Dude, didn't you hear? Internets is super srs bizness!


So I see.

I went onto /r/AskReddit and made a snarky remark to the mod:

|We're always open to new ideas and want to provide you with the best experience here.

You say that and yet you shut down the sub-reddit for a few hours because you have a disagreement with how the site is run?
Doesn't that seem like an oxymoron to you?
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Postby Esceen » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:20 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Man, the entire notion of shadowbanning is seriously stupid. The idea of punishments is to remove and discourage problem behavior. A "secret" punishment like that literally serves no purpose but to troll whoever gets hit with one. At best, and this is seriously grasping at straws, I could see something like that being useful to blunt a particularly dedicated spam-attacker that just keeps making new accounts after the current one gets toasted. But even that's a stretch.


Then again there is a counterpoint. When a persistent troll gets banned on NSG what happens? They make a new account and either do more of the same or just outright scrawl obscenities and link to disgusting snuff porn pics. With the shadowban the subject will won't realize that and will continue to troll in blissful ignorance.

Then again you can look at reddit and realise that it's a bad idea

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Postby Benuty » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:20 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:I'm just amused and somewhat incredulous at people losing their shit over their internet forum.

Dude, didn't you hear? Internets is super srs bizness!

It can be when someone loses their job over it, and their CEO is being an excellent lesson in letting a fire spiral out of control.
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Postby Alyakia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:22 pm

Thanatttynia wrote:Even meltdowns on NS are cuter. Does anyone else remember that? Sometime earlier this year or late last year? Because I could swear some minor shitstorm happened where a couple of big users left but I can't find anything about it in my posts and I'm not about to use the Search function because I want to retain my sanity. Didn't even dint. Strong as ever.


do you mean when a bunch of people made a secondary forum? because there are two major incidents that fostered it and neither of them were minor. there have been a few shitstorms though so it's hard to tell which you are referring to.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:22 pm

Benuty wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Dude, didn't you hear? Internets is super srs bizness!

It can be when someone loses their job over it, and their CEO is being an excellent lesson in letting a fire spiral out of control.


It's hard to fight a wildfire with a fire extinguisher.
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Postby Benuty » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:22 pm

Esceen wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
As long as someone isn't being lazy and resorting to tired old Asian stereotypes. Guaranteed that'll get reactionary defenses on her behalf.

http://i.imgur.com/oyU18x3.jpg

HAIL CHAIRMAN PAO!

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