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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:11 pm

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lol people are leaving because they can't use hate speech???

Much of reddit couldn't care less about srs or fph. But there were many, many people who did.

Ellen Pao single handedly removed two very infamous (albeit popular) subreddits with no warning. Most redditors feel threatened, because her history is full of occasions in which she removed anybody that was an obstacle to her agenda. She continues to employ these strong arm tactics, and in general couldn't care less about the community. She wants to make reddit a 'safe space.' I'm telling you, pcmr and fps are next!
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Postby Greater Fennoscandia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:16 pm

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Greater Fennoscandia wrote:Are you implying this is bad?

That question tells more about you as a person than you would probably dare to show to the outside world.


It only tells you I'm not afraid to read what other people have to say. They are only words.

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Postby Greater Fennoscandia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:17 pm

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Greater Fennoscandia wrote:
Are you implying this is bad?

Who wouldn't?


Me.

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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:21 pm

Why does it matter what they say?

Words are words. Being punished for talking is stupid.

Acting on words is another thing, but if X person wants to discuss pedophilia then I'm just going to leave without saying goodbye. I'd be a different story if somebody was molesting a child.

How many people will act on those words? Will any get away with it?
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:22 pm

Greater Fennoscandia wrote:
Laerod wrote:Who wouldn't?


Me.

Yeah, but you also made it clear you would approve of race based eugenics.

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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:23 pm

May Mays wrote:Why does it matter what they say?

Words are words. Being punished for talking is stupid.

Acting on words is another thing, but if X person wants to discuss pedophilia then I'm just going to leave without saying goodbye. I'd be a different story if somebody was molesting a child.

How many people will act on those words? Will any get away with it?


Are you including threats as "words are words"?
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:24 pm

May Mays wrote:Why does it matter what they say?

Words are words. Being punished for talking is stupid.

Acting on words is another thing, but if X person wants to discuss pedophilia then I'm just going to leave without saying goodbye. I'd be a different story if somebody was molesting a child.

How many people will act on those words? Will any get away with it?

Well, in the case of holocaust denial, it's been shown to dilute the efficacy of fact-based reasoning. Elevating nonsense, pseudoscience, and that which is essentially politically motivated trolling to the position of "the other side of debate" shifts the discourse that much closer to becoming bullshit.

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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:26 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
May Mays wrote:Why does it matter what they say?

Words are words. Being punished for talking is stupid.

Acting on words is another thing, but if X person wants to discuss pedophilia then I'm just going to leave without saying goodbye. I'd be a different story if somebody was molesting a child.

How many people will act on those words? Will any get away with it?


Are you including threats as "words are words"?

I don't react to threats.

Especially not online threats.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:27 pm

May Mays wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
Are you including threats as "words are words"?

I don't react to threats.

Especially not online threats.

And your personal reaction to a criminal act is relevant to its status as a criminal act how exactly?

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Postby Greater Fennoscandia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:30 pm

Laerod wrote:
Greater Fennoscandia wrote:
Me.

Yeah, but you also made it clear you would approve of race based eugenics.


Off topic.
I thought you said race didn't exist. Nothing wrong with eugenics though, you probably have a very narrow view of the word, meaning some kind of genocidal killing, which it necessarily isn't. If you detect that a few week old embryo has harlequins disease and abort it, that is eugenics.

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Postby May Mays » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:30 pm

Laerod wrote:
May Mays wrote:I don't react to threats.

Especially not online threats.

And your personal reaction to a criminal act is relevant to its status as a criminal act how exactly?

Threats are criminal acts?
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:31 pm

May Mays wrote:
Laerod wrote:And your personal reaction to a criminal act is relevant to its status as a criminal act how exactly?

Threats are criminal acts?

Yes. How can you not know that?
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Postby Greater Fennoscandia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:35 pm

May Mays wrote:
Laerod wrote:And your personal reaction to a criminal act is relevant to its status as a criminal act how exactly?

Threats are criminal acts?


If they are legitimate threats they are.

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Postby DesAnges » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:39 pm

It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:42 pm

Greater Fennoscandia wrote:
Laerod wrote:Yeah, but you also made it clear you would approve of race based eugenics.


Off topic.

Oh aye. Merely pointing out that you have an ulterior motive when it comes to utterly reprehensible topics.

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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:43 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
May Mays wrote:Threats are criminal acts?

Yes. How can you not know that?

Yeah, this basically.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:44 pm

DesAnges wrote:It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.

Is 'spamtrum' an official word these days? Never came across that one before.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby DesAnges » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:45 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
DesAnges wrote:It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.

Is 'spamtrum' an official word these days? Never came across that one before.

Made it up myself as I was typing. A small part of me is rather proud of that.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:46 pm

DesAnges wrote:It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.

We're also a fraction of Reddit's size and activity, and not armed with the sort of tools that would allow us to quickly or easily go all Madagascar on the site and Shut. Down. EVERYTHING!

I mean, I could potentially seriously fuck up the forums, but I damn well know better. (Besides, Max knows where I live! :P) Also helps that [v] is in pretty constant contact with the mod team, so I don't see a situation with such a massive disconnect arising here.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, "spamtrum", I like that!
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:47 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Is 'spamtrum' an official word these days? Never came across that one before.

Made it up myself as I was typing. A small part of me is rather proud of that.

Looks like one of those words that could be useful in future digital diatribes.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby Rodrania » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:53 pm

So Reddit is dying? Somehow I expected this to happen eventually.
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Postby DesAnges » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:54 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
DesAnges wrote:It was amusing to watch it unfold as I, like most sane people, have unsubbed from most of the default subs and the ones I still enjoy are not ones I browse too often.

It did raise some interesting points about the disconnect between moderator and admin on one of the world's largest websites - how shit and uncaring must you be that people are actually shutting down the website to get their point across? I'm glad that doesn't happen here. People just throw spamtrums instead.

We're also a fraction of Reddit's size and activity, and not armed with the sort of tools that would allow us to quickly or easily go all Madagascar on the site and Shut. Down. EVERYTHING!

I mean, I could potentially seriously fuck up the forums, but I damn well know better. (Besides, Max knows where I live! :P) Also helps that [v] is in pretty constant contact with the mod team, so I don't see a situation with such a massive disconnect arising here.

EDIT TO ADD: Also, "spamtrum", I like that!

Move house and wreak havoc, that's my advice.

And you're welcome to propagate it across the heavens boards. Just because it's you, Reppy.
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Postby Torisakia » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:54 pm

What, again? Doesn't that shit happen like ever year on Reddit?

Well, at least r/cfb hasn't gone private.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:57 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Is 'spamtrum' an official word these days? Never came across that one before.

Made it up myself as I was typing. A small part of me is rather proud of that.

There's... something off about it. The changing of the n to an m just feels like it removes something essential...

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Postby DesAnges » Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:57 pm

Laerod wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Made it up myself as I was typing. A small part of me is rather proud of that.

There's... something off about it. The changing of the n to an m just feels like it removes something essential...

Welcome to the world of the portmanteau.
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