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United West Afrika
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Postby United West Afrika » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:23 am

Stay away from our women, white devils.
Be yourself, by yourself. Stay away from us.

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The Cobalt Sky
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:26 am

Saiwania wrote:Sorry, but I am not going to voluntarily allow my lineage to drastically change just to spare people of other races' feelings.

What? That's not my point at all. My point was that you are a white supremacist.
It isn't a matter of me seeing my race as inherently superior,

Yes, it is, that was what the conversation I was having was about.
but rather my wanting to be separate from other racial groups and keep to my own.

Because you see others as inferior.
For my purposes however, I obviously see White ancestry as very desirable. White is what I identify with and want to preserve.

Because you see others as inferior.
You may as well argue that a native American from the Pine Ridge reservation that only wants to date other Sioux is a racial supremacist if they refuse to date any White people.

Yeah, and?
And Laerod nor anyone else on here doesn't know jack about what I would or wouldn't want to do under different circumstances.

I thought you were making the point that if you had been born into another race, you would be a supremacist of that race instead of white.
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Postby Thessalonaik » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:26 am

The Cobalt Sky wrote:No. He thinks other races are inferior. It's pretty clear. You're screwing around and willfully not seeing it.

You're seeing stuff that's not there

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I wouldn't call my Jewish m8s Jewish supremacists just because they date Jews and the state of Israel is a Jewish state.

But they are, because I'm fairly certain it's a part of Judaism to believe that the Jews are the chosen of God. Also, Jews aren't a race, they're a religion with various ethnic divisions which can easily be seen as crossing races.
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Pretty much, I'm writing all this with the same passion I'd reserve to writing about saving trees. I love em, I think we're losing something of beauty and health, but I'm not too bothered either way if someone wants to cut mahogany.

Then this is a waste of my time as I suspected.

Would this be any less of a waste of time if I did not possess a sense of humour? Probably not. I just like hearing different opinions

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:28 am

The Cobalt Sky wrote:No. He thinks other races are inferior. It's pretty clear. You're screwing around and willfully not seeing it.


I say that you're "screwing around" and that you're projecting whatever you want to believe onto me. But hey- if you insist I'm a White supremacist because I stand up for White people, then I must be a White supremacist.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:29 am

Yeah I don't see why not. I'm an American so I am not fully one ethnicity anyway.
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Postby WikiPlay » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:31 am

The culture difference is one point and the other point is money. You have to spend 1000 hours and several travels to fix a cute Asian is my experience.

The time to spend on education, language,... makes it very difficult.

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The Cobalt Sky
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:32 am

Thessalonaik wrote:You're seeing stuff that's not there

No. I've already provided my case and you've made it clear you aren't going to be serious. Again, waste of my time.
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Postby Replevion » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:35 am

United West Afrika wrote:Stay away from our women, white devils.
Be yourself, by yourself. Stay away from us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB0j1p8Seos


Oh, good old fashioned family racism. Culture isn't about skin color. My wife is black, and yet she went to the same high school that Bill Gates' daughter did and whenever people talk to her online they think she's not only white but male because that's how she acts.

People are individuals. Their culture shapes them, but it doesn't own them, and somebody's culture might be completely different from their appearance, especially in the US.
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Postby Thessalonaik » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:36 am

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
Thessalonaik wrote:You're seeing stuff that's not there
No. I've already provided my case and you've made it clear you aren't going to be serious. Again, waste of my time.

Sorry for wasting your time m8

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The Cobalt Sky
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:37 am

Saiwania wrote:I say that you're "screwing around" and that you're projecting whatever you want to believe onto me.

It seems you're uncomfortable with the term, then. You think than simply saying 'segregation is good,' is better than outright admitting you think all other races are awful.
But hey- if you insist I'm a White supremacist because I stand up for White people, then I must be a White supremacist.

Laerod put is best:
Laerod wrote:If other races are just as good, why bother segregating in the first place? This is the initial problem white supremacists trying to lie with semantics never manage to solve.
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Postby Thessalonaik » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:39 am

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
Laerod wrote:If other races are just as good, why bother segregating in the first place? This is the initial problem white supremacists trying to lie with semantics never manage to solve.

To preserve them

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:40 am

My first crush was someone who was not of the same ethnicity as myself. Personally, I do not really care whether they are of the same race.
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Postby Replevion » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:41 am

Thessalonaik wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:

To preserve them


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The Cobalt Sky
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:43 am

Thessalonaik wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:

To preserve them

Why preserve them unless you think they're better in some way?
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:44 am

The Cobalt Sky wrote:
Thessalonaik wrote:To preserve them

Why preserve them unless you think they're better in some way?

It also must be asked why you'd want to preserve something that doesn't exist in the first place.
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Postby Thessalonaik » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:45 am

Replevion wrote:The smaller the genetic differentiation in a group, the weaker it becomes.

The group also becomes more distinct as a cohesive group~

Mavorpen wrote:It also must be asked why you'd want to preserve something that doesn't exist in the first place.

Make two slavs give birth to an Indonesian and I'll be convinced
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Postby Key West » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Key West wrote:My ex was black...*nods*

What colour are they now?

:p

He's still black.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:46 am

Mavorpen wrote:It also must be asked why you'd want to preserve something that doesn't exist in the first place.


How does it not exist? My skin is White and I clearly look different from non-White people, so I don't consider myself as the same as them. Sorry, but I refuse to do that just to be politically correct. I recognize race and that isn't changing.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:46 am

Mavorpen wrote:
The Cobalt Sky wrote:Why preserve them unless you think they're better in some way?

It also must be asked why you'd want to preserve something that doesn't exist in the first place.

Agreed. Although as you point out in your signature, racism still does.
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Postby Smoya » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:50 am

Yeah. Why wouldn't I? In fact I'm the product of multiple ethnicities.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:50 am

I'd like whomever I get involved with to be/become American, but it's not a requirement. Other than that, who care?
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Postby United West Afrika » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:54 am

Replevion wrote:
United West Afrika wrote:People are individuals. Their culture shapes them, but it doesn't own them, and somebody's culture might be completely different from their appearance, especially in the US.


This is the lie of the white devil, who has stolen our culture from us. You took us, changed our names, forced your religion upon us, your Western education, and now force your inferior white genetics upon us. Who is a person who abandons their culture? If you aren't owned by your culture, then you own no culture. You are a lonely phantom, without a history or a people, searching for a vessel to possess.

I mean, what you're basically saying is that it's acceptable for a white to date a black, so long as that black person acts like a white person. How preposterously chauvinistic! We are not your dolls, to be dressed up and played with! We are proud people with a history of our own, and we will not have it diluted and trivialized!
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:57 am

Thessalonaik wrote:
Replevion wrote:The smaller the genetic differentiation in a group, the weaker it becomes.

The group also becomes more distinct as a cohesive group~

Mavorpen wrote:It also must be asked why you'd want to preserve something that doesn't exist in the first place.

Make two slavs give birth to an Indonesian and I'll be convinced

That's easy. Just have them give birth in Indonesia and then obtain citizenship for it.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:58 am

United West Afrika wrote:This is the lie of the white devil, who has stolen our culture from us. You took us, changed our names, forced your religion upon us, your Western education, and now force your inferior white genetics upon us. Who is a person who abandons their culture? If you aren't owned by your culture, then you own no culture. You are a lonely phantom, without a history or a people, searching for a vessel to possess.

That can go fuck off. This is the modern world - people have independent agency with which to make choices without social approval.
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Postby Thessalonaik » Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:59 am

Mavorpen wrote:That's easy. Just have them give birth in Indonesia.

Two slavs living in Indonesia does not an Indonesian baby make

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