Marriage Now Fabulous, SCOTUS Rules for Same Sex Marriage

[Autem Galacticus Nexum]

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

So no good reasons?

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

[The Orson Empire]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

Morality is subjective, and not everyone agrees on the same morality. Even still, you can't ban gay marriage because of your religions beliefs. Also, it doesn't "deny" the children proper parents. That's bullshit.

[Esternial]

Not moi, fortunately. My mother is pro-SSM.

I don't think my mom has ever stated her position on SSM. However, she does believe that homosexuality is disgusting (and I think she was angry as President Obama for endorsing it), so she probably wouldn't approve of it.

Ha. In my case it's the opposite. She hasn't really given a concrete opinion on homosexuality, but overall she doesn't consider it her business.

She's the most dedicated Catholic I know - she even volunteers at the church as a catechist - and also the most tolerant person I know, often talking about the core message of love and tolerance in the Bible and teaching it to kids in our town.

Which actually makes me more resentful towards homophobic pseudo-Catholics or Christians.

[Neutraligon]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

We do not legislate against immorality and people have vastly different moralities in the US, separation of church and state, explain why this matters, a mother and father are not necessary, two parents are very good however.

[Laerod]

So no good reasons?

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

We are not to presume that any more than we presume Tlaloc is indeed a real being.

[Neutraligon]

So no good reasons?

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

Not really since this country is a secular country. God existing or not existing is thus irrelevant.

[Arcturus Novus]

So no good reasons?

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

If such a being does truly exist, Ive been told that no matter what, He will still love sinners.

Morality is subjective, and not everyone agrees on the same morality. Even still, you can't ban gay marriage because of your religions beliefs. Also, it doesn't "deny" the children proper parents. That's bullshit.

A lot of things can "deny" children of "proper" parents. Most of them involve neglect/aabuse at the hands of parents. None of them specifically involve having two dads or two moms.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it.

Is it bad because God says so, or does God say so because it's bad?

I know the Omnissiah says it's OK, because it's OK. I like that god's opinion more.

These people are warping the Natural norm.

Appeal to nature. The natural world doesn't give us a moral code.

It denies children a proper father or mother.

This has always been a shitty argument. Why does a child need one of each instead of two of one?

[Autem Galacticus Nexum]

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

We are not to presume that any more than we presume Tlaloc is indeed a real being.

I don't deny that Tlaloc isn't. Or that spaghetti manifestation.

[Kelinfort]

So no good reasons?

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

If we are to presume my muffin is a god, then we're all going to hell for genocide.

[Esternial]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

[Ameriganastan]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

I don't wanna get into a theology debate here, but we don't know what God says about it. We know what some guy who wrote a book thousands of years ago said about it.

[Laerod]

We are not to presume that any more than we presume Tlaloc is indeed a real being.

I don't deny that Tlaloc isn't. Or that spaghetti manifestation.

As such they are irrelevant to legislation.

[The Orson Empire]

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

Thank you for saying this! People who use the word of God for hate speech are despicable. It goes against everything Jesus taught.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Don't dismiss that as a bad reason. if we are to presume the Judeo-Christian God is indeed a real being, that's a reason.

If we are to presume my muffin is a god, then we're all going to hell for genocide.

If God is your muffin the you probably ate him. Way to go, Nietzche.

[Laanvia]

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

[Kelinfort]

If we are to presume my muffin is a god, then we're all going to hell for genocide.

If God is your muffin the you probably ate him. Way to go, Nietzche.

God is dead.

...and he was delicious...

[Arcturus Novus]

I don't deny that Tlaloc isn't. Or that spaghetti manifestation.

As such they are irrelevant to legislation.

Yeah, we separated church from state for a reason.

[Kelinfort]

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

He's correct, the foundation of Christianity is built on generations of sectarian, religious, and gender based violence.

[Neutraligon]

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

Such a well thought out response

[Idzequitch]

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

This guy gets it.

[The Orson Empire]

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

And yet you just shrug it off, like most Christian bigots do. This is truly despicable. You have warped Jesus's teachings in order to oppress a group of minorities.

[Esternial]

:roll:

Such a well thought out response

It's bloody sad, that's what it is.

Most of these pseudo-christians are often the ones that take their religion the least serious unless it comes to something that aligns with their own political ideologies. Then they're suddenly the best frickin' Christian on the entire planet and genuinely believe it.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Why?

It's immoral. God speaks against it. These people are warping the Natural norm. It denies children a proper father or mother.

God also forbids other models other than himself, but these people are warping the natural christian norm by creating fringe religious groups, like the Tea Party Protestants.

[Laerod]

Frankly, statements like these are what is truly immoral and a disgrace to the Christian faith.

Using the word of God as an instrument of hate speech goes against its very foundations.

:roll:

Here's the thing, would you appreciate it if you were forced to observe Ramadan right now and not eat or drink during the day? No? Perhaps you should, oh, I don't know... "do unto others as you would have done unto you" or something like that?