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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:26 pm

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I live in the South, which, as most people know is the bastion of conservatism and the Republic Party, so I got bombarded with that nonsense at an early age.

Not moi, fortunately. My mother is pro-SSM.

I don't think my mom has ever stated her position on SSM. However, she does believe that homosexuality is disgusting (and I think she was angry as President Obama for endorsing it), so she probably wouldn't approve of it.

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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:27 pm

Fuck yeah! Welcome to the 21st century USA!

Finally. Maybe now we can finally move forward as a culture.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:27 pm

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Yeah, typical. Raging about how Conchita was shoving his gay lifestyle down the throats of kids.


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Postby Tahar Joblis » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:28 pm

Well, my odds were laid on either a 6-3 in favor or 4-5 against. I'm disappointed in you, Mr. Roberts, very disappointed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:29 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:Well, my odds were laid on either a 6-3 in favor or 4-5 against. I'm disappointed in you, Mr. Roberts, very disappointed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.


I actually read his dissenting opinion.

All I can say is God damn.
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Postby Divitaen » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:30 pm

Tahar Joblis wrote:Well, my odds were laid on either a 6-3 in favor or 4-5 against. I'm disappointed in you, Mr. Roberts, very disappointed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.


It would never have been against. After US v. Windsor and Proposition 8, a ruling against would never have occurred. It was a clear legal precedence.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:33 pm

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Tahar Joblis wrote:Well, my odds were laid on either a 6-3 in favor or 4-5 against. I'm disappointed in you, Mr. Roberts, very disappointed. Tsk, tsk, tsk.


It would never have been against. After US v. Windsor and Proposition 8, a ruling against would never have occurred. It was a clear legal precedence.

Aye, my guess was 5-4 or 6-3.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:33 pm

Gauthier wrote:Guaranteed the next major disaster to hit the news is going to be blamed on this by plenty of nutjobs.


Or, the inverse, a disaster being blamed for causing gay marriage.

Like Sarah Palin scaring off another one of Bristol's wannabe husbands.
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Postby Idzequitch » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:34 pm

As a Christian, I don't mind this. Gay marriage will soon join extramarital sex as something that Christians don't necessarily support, but is normal enough that we don't have a meltdown every time we hear about it. There is no reason for us God-followers to force our beliefs on everyone else. I'm glad we can put this needless struggle behind us.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:36 pm

Idzequitch wrote:As a Christian, I don't mind this. Gay marriage will soon join extramarital sex as something that Christians don't necessarily support, but is normal enough that we don't have a meltdown every time we hear about it. There is no reason for us God-followers to force our beliefs on everyone else. I'm glad we can put this needless struggle behind us.

As a fellow Christian myself, thank you for saying this. I'm tired of seeing Christian bigots that want to go on a crusade against giving people equal rights.

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Postby Laanvia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:38 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Not moi, fortunately. My mother is pro-SSM.

I don't think my mom has ever stated her position on SSM. However, she does believe that homosexuality is disgusting (and I think she was angry as President Obama for endorsing it), so she probably wouldn't approve of it.

Clearly an intelligent woman. That wasn't sarcasm, either.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:38 pm

Idzequitch wrote:As a Christian, I don't mind this. Gay marriage will soon join extramarital sex as something that Christians don't necessarily support, but is normal enough that we don't have a meltdown every time we hear about it. There is no reason for us God-followers to force our beliefs on everyone else. I'm glad we can put this needless struggle behind us.

Pretty sure most Christians are more than willing to participate in extramarital sex.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:40 pm

Laanvia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I don't think my mom has ever stated her position on SSM. However, she does believe that homosexuality is disgusting (and I think she was angry as President Obama for endorsing it), so she probably wouldn't approve of it.

Clearly an intelligent woman. That wasn't sarcasm, either.


I mean, I am not homosexual myself and yet I don't think there's anything wrong with gay marriage.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:40 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:As a Christian, I don't mind this. Gay marriage will soon join extramarital sex as something that Christians don't necessarily support, but is normal enough that we don't have a meltdown every time we hear about it. There is no reason for us God-followers to force our beliefs on everyone else. I'm glad we can put this needless struggle behind us.

As a fellow Christian myself, thank you for saying this. I'm tired of seeing Christian bigots that want to go on a crusade against giving people equal rights.


As a non-Christian I wish more Christians where of this sort of opinion.
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Postby Tsaraine » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:41 pm

Here is the recording of a mass wedding ceremony in Fulton County, Georgia. I found it quite touching.

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Postby Olivaero » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:41 pm

This is excellent news, it really is a shame America couldn't vote in a pro gay marriage government that passed this as law though. The amount of power that 5 judges are given in the US really does frighten me sometimes.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:42 pm

So does anyone know how many more married couples exist in the US now?
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Postby Idzequitch » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:42 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:As a Christian, I don't mind this. Gay marriage will soon join extramarital sex as something that Christians don't necessarily support, but is normal enough that we don't have a meltdown every time we hear about it. There is no reason for us God-followers to force our beliefs on everyone else. I'm glad we can put this needless struggle behind us.

Pretty sure most Christians are more than willing to participate in extramarital sex.

Pretty sure that "most" is an exaggeration. Like gay marriage, yhere are a few that openly support it and some who participate, even though they realize they aren't supposed to, but by and large, are against it.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:42 pm

Laanvia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:I don't think my mom has ever stated her position on SSM. However, she does believe that homosexuality is disgusting (and I think she was angry as President Obama for endorsing it), so she probably wouldn't approve of it.

Clearly an intelligent woman. That wasn't sarcasm, either.

To be fair, she was pretty much raised into having these sort of opinions. Seeing as I also had these opinions, I believe I am qualified to say that it is not easy to break away from something you have believed your entire life.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:43 pm

Neutraligon wrote:So does anyone know how many more married couples exist in the US now?

Thousands of them

Maybe idk.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:44 pm

Neutraligon wrote:So does anyone know how many more married couples exist in the US now?

A billion.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:44 pm

Congratulations, gays. Now you can spend an obscene amount of money on a wedding and get divorced within a year. Just like the rest of the world.

If you missed the implication, I think marriage is for suckers. No matter your orientation.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:45 pm

I don't know if I'd be unable to previously, but since I'm moving to Kentucky, it's comforting to learn that I'll be able to marry whomever there.
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Postby Idzequitch » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:45 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:So does anyone know how many more married couples exist in the US now?

A billion.

Whoa. That's, like, a third of the world's population
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:46 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
Merizoc wrote:A billion.

Whoa. That's, like, a third of the world's population

No, that's 1/7th of the worlds population.

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