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Geilinor wrote:

Razgriskm wrote:I suppose the UN is using outdated terms then
http://en.europenews.dk/Sweden-to-becom ... 28028.html

"According to UN projections, Sweden will be a much poorer country by 2030, much worse than what anyone in the Swedish government indicates.

The UN report HDI (Human Development Index) predicts a significant decrease in Swedish prosperity, unlike their Nordic neighbors, who will retain their top positions and even strengthen them globally in the long run.

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place. "

Sweden was 14th in 2015. The prediction wasn't meant to be accurate, the UN was using experimental numbers.

Razgriskm wrote:

Geilinor wrote:Sweden was 14th in 2015. The prediction wasn't meant to be accurate, the UN was using experimental numbers.

"The logic should be really simple to understand, yet many have difficulties grasping it: If you import the Third World, it's what you'll get."

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mains ... -the-west/

Razgriskm wrote:I suppose the UN is using outdated terms then
http://en.europenews.dk/Sweden-to-becom ... 28028.html

"According to UN projections, Sweden will be a much poorer country by 2030, much worse than what anyone in the Swedish government indicates.

The UN report HDI (Human Development Index) predicts a significant decrease in Swedish prosperity, unlike their Nordic neighbors, who will retain their top positions and even strengthen them globally in the long run.

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place. "

Razgriskm wrote:

Geilinor wrote:Sweden was 14th in 2015. The prediction wasn't meant to be accurate, the UN was using experimental numbers.

"The logic should be really simple to understand, yet many have difficulties grasping it: If you import the Third World, it's what you'll get."

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mains ... -the-west/
*imgsnip*

Camicon wrote:

Razgriskm wrote:"The logic should be really simple to understand, yet many have difficulties grasping it: If you import the Third World, it's what you'll get."

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mains ... -the-west/
*imgsnip*

Raw numbers are meaningless for that kind of conversation; per capita rates or gtfo.

Zoice wrote:

Camicon wrote:Raw numbers are meaningless for that kind of conversation; per capita rates or gtfo.

As Kelinfort's link points out, even per capita rates cannot be accurately compared, because of differences in how cases of rape are counted in different countries. Sweden tends to overcount by a large margin relative to everywhere else.

Camicon wrote:

Zoice wrote:As Kelinfort's link points out, even per capita rates cannot be accurately compared, because of differences in how cases of rape are counted in different countries. Sweden tends to overcount by a large margin relative to everywhere else.

Razgriskm wasn't trying to compare rapes in Sweden to rapes in other countries.

Zoice wrote:

Camicon wrote:Razgriskm wasn't trying to compare rapes in Sweden to rapes in other countries.

Oh, sorry I read that into his post. Still, it's relevant as the definition of rape changed in Sweden pretty much exactly when the incidence reports increased. It's like autism rates increasing because the definition broadened.

Camicon wrote:

Zoice wrote:Oh, sorry I read that into his post. Still, it's relevant as the definition of rape changed in Sweden pretty much exactly when the incidence reports increased. It's like autism rates increasing because the definition broadened.

Of course it's relevant to a discussion about rape, but this thread isn't the place to discuss rape in Sweden. I was criticizing Razgriskm's attempt to make a comparison of dissimilar populations (in terms of size) using raw numbers rather than per capita rates, specifically.